(Edit) Loss of coordinators' effect on success next season

[Just in Atlanta]

1 minute ago, Buffalo619 said:

Should be out of a job. 

This comment encapsulates the point of the thread.

You want him fired because his playcalling sucked in the second game against KC and because our players weren't fast enough to tackle Hill? What about the rest of the year? We're really going to fire the DC responsible for the No. 1 defense (by a landslide) in the NFL?

 

Then, we find a DC on a DC tree and everything will be better ... because. 

[Just in Atlanta]

Just now, Buffalo619 said:

Obviously I’m judging him on his full year, including the kc game. His D is soft and always crumbles when we need a stop. Critical penalties on 3rd downs to extend drive. Very boring and vanilla.  Yes. On paper his stats are good but I’m not a fan. 

With all due respect, his D isn't soft. Tell that to Poyer, Hyde and everyone else.

 

We have a D built to beat KC and NE with an O designed to score lots of points. (It obviously didn't work the second time and I'd agree the prevent D was atrocious in that last game.)

 

We stop the pass and the running QB. His D is the No. 1 secondary in the league. We can't stop everything. The team isn't built to defend the Darrick Henry's of the world. Besides, one RB alone isn't going to outscore Allen and Co. on most Sundays. If that's "soft" then so be it. I'm not saying that shouldn't change but that was the design this season. 

I stand by my point - finding a DC if Frazier leaves might cause a long bump performance-wise. 

[Comebackkid]

5 hours ago, NewEra said:

Whether or not we ever win the SB, the years we have with 17 will be the most enjoyable time in franchise history.  I have no doubts. 

thats only if people will actually allow themselves to enjoy it.   

[Saxum]

7 hours ago, Johnny Hammersticks said:

Where’s Leslie Frazier going?

 

7 hours ago, Just in Atlanta said:

Bears? Giants? The Netherlands for a vacation? No idea. 

 

Disney World.

[BigAl2526]

Frazier is sticking around as far as I know.  I think Dorsey gives the Bills sufficient continuity to to build on the past two years rather than take a step back.

[bobobonators]

Grass can be green anywhere as long as you water it. 

[1ManRaid]

The new headline still sucks.  I read it and thought "oh good, someone reviewed the affects past coordinator changes have had on teams". Nope.

[Just in Atlanta]

7 hours ago, ScottLaw said:

Dude what? 
 

Did you miss the last game the Bills played? Their defense got annihilated.

 

Dude - did you read the post? It's a fact that this defense was built to beat KC. That doesn't mean it didn't. Good grief man. Do you really not understand the difference between intent and result? 

[Not at the table Karlos]

23 hours ago, clayboy54 said:

Did you get a new TV?

In 2000 the TV's were stronger than the remote. Now they'll both break. 

[Malazan]

17 hours ago, Buffalo619 said:

Obviously I’m judging him on his full year, including the kc game. His D is soft and always crumbles when we need a stop. Critical penalties on 3rd downs to extend drive. Very boring and vanilla.  Yes. On paper his stats are good but I’m not a fan. 

 

That's great and all, but we live in reality. What quality coach is going to want to be DC of a team that having the #1 defense wasn't good enough? I think the Bills defense were paper tigers too and they used smoke and mirrors to achieve that #1 status. I'd prefer they get a new voice at DC as well, but firing Frazier might be shooting yourself in foot. This also assume that he's utterly incapable of learning from this which is just a silly emotional reaction. 

[The Firebaugh Kid]

Josh Allen > every other factor.

QB was the missing piece all 17 of those years, not a cordinator.

[PromoTheRobot]

 

[TBBills]

On 2/2/2022 at 3:06 PM, Johnny Hammersticks said:

Where’s Leslie Frazier going?

Hope early retirement, him staying would actually make this team worse, b.c when you don't want prevent defense he will give it to you.

Edited February 3, 2022 by TBBills