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As demonstrated in this thread, the leftist ethic is absurd and untenable in a sane society. This is why they strive to make society more and more insane using postmodern doubletalk and non-sequiturs. "There is no truth," "a man can become a woman," "democracy crumbles when you vote for the wrong people," etc. 

 

You CANNOT defend someone like Joe Rogan against leftist attacks on "free speech" or procedural grounds because leftists DO NOT BELIEVE in such things except when they are convenient for leftist causes. Their moral and political code is entirely patchwork and fails on its face if not for the SHEER WILL of leftists that props it up. You must mock and knock it down to reveal to the world that it has no clothes. 

 

The side that wants to win will always defeat the side that wants to be left alone. So long as you tolerate baby killers, usurers, pornographers, war criminals, and sodomites saying with a straight face, "not a SLUR???!!!" you will lose, because you allow the absurdity to continue without challenge. 

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31 minutes ago, LeviF said:

As demonstrated in this thread, the leftist ethic is absurd and untenable in a sane society. This is why they strive to make society more and more insane using postmodern doubletalk and non-sequiturs. "There is no truth," "a man can become a woman," "democracy crumbles when you vote for the wrong people," etc. 

 

You CANNOT defend someone like Joe Rogan against leftist attacks on "free speech" or procedural grounds because leftists DO NOT BELIEVE in such things except when they are convenient for leftist causes. Their moral and political code is entirely patchwork and fails on its face if not for the SHEER WILL of leftists that props it up. You must mock and knock it down to reveal to the world that it has no clothes. 

 

The side that wants to win will always defeat the side that wants to be left alone. So long as you tolerate baby killers, usurers, pornographers, war criminals, and sodomites saying with a straight face, "not a SLUR???!!!" you will lose, because you allow the absurdity to continue without challenge. 

Well stated. 

 

Along with this you gotta be a mind blowing imbecile to defend the official narrative in light of conflicting information from experts in mRNA technology, virology and treatments, and the human immune system that propose that among other things the production of spike proteins can cause great harm to the human body up to killing you.  Rather than demanding answers from officials along with insisting on an open dialogue on the risks and contentions of experts with a different view they decide its better to silence dissenters.  Any way you want to shake it they're idiots.         

 

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57 minutes ago, LeviF said:

As demonstrated in this thread, the leftist ethic is absurd and untenable in a sane society. This is why they strive to make society more and more insane using postmodern doubletalk and non-sequiturs. "There is no truth," "a man can become a woman," "democracy crumbles when you vote for the wrong people," etc. 

 

You CANNOT defend someone like Joe Rogan against leftist attacks on "free speech" or procedural grounds because leftists DO NOT BELIEVE in such things except when they are convenient for leftist causes. Their moral and political code is entirely patchwork and fails on its face if not for the SHEER WILL of leftists that props it up. You must mock and knock it down to reveal to the world that it has no clothes. 

 

The side that wants to win will always defeat the side that wants to be left alone. So long as you tolerate baby killers, usurers, pornographers, war criminals, and sodomites saying with a straight face, "not a SLUR???!!!" you will lose, because you allow the absurdity to continue without challenge. 

You are doing the same you accuse the left of doing. While I tend to agree with you call abortion as baby killing, sodomites etc, you can never solve the divide. What there are no gaps on the right, never an abortion on the right,  never a preacher who was a pedo. 

Many rightwingers would have us go back to women cannot vote, the being gay is illegal etc. 

Time to end extremes. Rogan can have a good podcast, by why the need to be extreme. Isn't freedom about choice.

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1 hour ago, LeviF said:

As demonstrated in this thread, the leftist ethic is absurd and untenable in a sane society. This is why they strive to make society more and more insane using postmodern doubletalk and non-sequiturs. "There is no truth," "a man can become a woman," "democracy crumbles when you vote for the wrong people," etc. 

 

You CANNOT defend someone like Joe Rogan against leftist attacks on "free speech" or procedural grounds because leftists DO NOT BELIEVE in such things except when they are convenient for leftist causes. Their moral and political code is entirely patchwork and fails on its face if not for the SHEER WILL of leftists that props it up. You must mock and knock it down to reveal to the world that it has no clothes. 

 

The side that wants to win will always defeat the side that wants to be left alone. So long as you tolerate baby killers, usurers, pornographers, war criminals, and sodomites saying with a straight face, "not a SLUR???!!!" you will lose, because you allow the absurdity to continue without challenge. 

So you think companies should be able to lie about their products? Is that free speech? 

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2 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said:

You are doing the same you accuse the left of doing. While I tend to agree with you call abortion as baby killing, sodomites etc, you can never solve the divide. What there are no gaps on the right, never an abortion on the right,  never a preacher who was a pedo. 

Many rightwingers would have us go back to women cannot vote, the being gay is illegal etc. 

Time to end extremes. Rogan can have a good podcast, by why the need to be extreme. Isn't freedom about choice.

 

Who on the American left wants to "solve the divide?" What about their behavior and rhetoric makes you think they are interested in anything but winning?

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9 minutes ago, LeviF said:

 

Who on the American left wants to "solve the divide?" What about their behavior and rhetoric makes you think they are interested in anything but winning?

Ya, making it fair and easy to vote, how horrible! 

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6 minutes ago, LeviF said:

 

Who on the American left wants to "solve the divide?" What about their behavior and rhetoric makes you think they are interested in anything but winning?

 

Damn look in the mirror and now tell us more about guns, abortion, gay, transgender rights, history, climate change, immigrants, history, and voting, etc.

 

It’s sad that the GQP must prey on an uninformed cult instead of campaigning on issues of substance because they are void of meaningful ideas and values.

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3 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Ya, making it fair and easy to vote, how horrible! 

 

 

Their entire "campaign" around the GA Voter bill was misinformation.  

 

No one got smacked with a "content advisory warning."  

 

I believe Biden called it a return to Jim Crow.   

 

 

Which is his right.  I trust the people to ***t all over a take like that and expose him as a liar.  We know the approved media won't challenge him which is unfortunate.  

 

Because his take is "approved" thought.  No matter how big a lie or ridiculous.

 

Rogan has Robert Malone on.  DISINFORMATION!  Boycott Spotify.  Cancel him.

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30 minutes ago, LeviF said:

 

Who on the American left wants to "solve the divide?" What about their behavior and rhetoric makes you think they are interested in anything but winning?

You are correct in that. And who in the right wants to move? The divide must be bridged. The right must stop the anti abortion stuff, the anti gsy stuff and the left must ditch AOC, the anti police crap to even start.

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31 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said:

You are doing the same you accuse the left of doing. While I tend to agree with you call abortion as baby killing, sodomites etc, you can never solve the divide. What there are no gaps on the right, never an abortion on the right,  never a preacher who was a pedo. 

Many rightwingers would have us go back to women cannot vote, the being gay is illegal etc. 

Time to end extremes. Rogan can have a good podcast, by why the need to be extreme. Isn't freedom about choice.

 

We're seeing it in real time in this thread, Bill. "Ballot harvesting is fair and easy voting." "Podcasts and false advertising are the same thing." "Unlimited access to murdering children in utero and grown men shitting in the same bathroom as little girls are meaningful ideas and values."

 

This is all nonsense, and if they are smart enough to comprehend that it's nonsense then why put it forward? Because they have no interest in "solving a divide," they're interesting in furthering the managerial state which punishes their perceived enemies and (supposedly) rewards their allies. Many large cities in the United States have devolved into full-fledged anarcho-tyranny and these folks cheer it on.

 

2 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said:

You are correct in that. And who in the right wants to move? The divide must be bridged. The right must stop the anti abortion stuff, the anti gsy stuff and the left must ditch AOC, the anti police crap to even start.

 

The idea I'm putting forward is that there is no longer any meaningful way to bridge the divide. I believe I have already posted long-form on this in one of your threads so I'll leave it there.

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1 minute ago, LeviF said:

 

We're seeing it in real time in this thread, Bill. "Ballot harvesting is fair and easy voting." "Podcasts and false advertising are the same thing." "Unlimited access to murdering children in utero and grown men shitting in the same bathroom as little girls are meaningful ideas and values."

 

This is all nonsense, and if they are smart enough to comprehend that it's nonsense then why put it forward? Because they have no interest in "solving a divide," they're interesting in furthering the managerial state which punishes their perceived enemies and (supposedly) rewards their allies. Many large cities in the United States have devolved into full-fledged anarcho-tyranny and these folks cheer it on.

 

 

The idea I'm putting forward is that there is no longer any meaningful way to bridge the divide. I believe I have already posted long-form on this in one of your threads so I'll leave it there.

 

How is the right bridging the divide?

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Oh, how could I forget the pivot from "not teaching from a book is the same as banning said book" to "disappearing podcast episodes is necessary and responsible in a free society."

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1 minute ago, LeviF said:

Oh, how could I forget the pivot from "not teaching from a book is the same as banning said book" to "disappearing podcast episodes is necessary and responsible in a free society."


How is the right bridging the divide?

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Time Is Running Out for the COVID Coverups

by Adam Mill

 

The Left has a word for misinformation that turns out to be true. They call it, “misinformation.”

 

Over and over again, the tech giants, cheered on by power-drunk government officials, have censored and deplatformed people who have contradicted the official narrative regarding COVID and heavy-handed public health measures that restrict freedom with dubious health benefits.

 

Tellingly, the demands to censor Joe Rogan rarely identify the supposed “misinformation” he peddled.

 

Even more tellingly, the censors totally fail to acknowledge that Rogan-promoted “conspiracy theories” have a better track record than many of the articles of faith his critics promoted.

 

https://amgreatness.com/2022/02/05/time-is-running-out-for-the-covid-coverups/

 

 

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, B-Man said:

 

Time Is Running Out for the COVID Coverups

by Adam Mill

 

The Left has a word for misinformation that turns out to be true. They call it, “misinformation.”

 

Over and over again, the tech giants, cheered on by power-drunk government officials, have censored and deplatformed people who have contradicted the official narrative regarding COVID and heavy-handed public health measures that restrict freedom with dubious health benefits.

 

Tellingly, the demands to censor Joe Rogan rarely identify the supposed “misinformation” he peddled.

 

Even more tellingly, the censors totally fail to acknowledge that Rogan-promoted “conspiracy theories” have a better track record than many of the articles of faith his critics promoted.

 

https://amgreatness.com/2022/02/05/time-is-running-out-for-the-covid-coverups/

 

 

 

 

 

 

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The key tactic for misinformation buffs is to avoid any discussion of details.  Keep the conversation at the 40,000 foot level and don't get cornered into a discussion or debate of actual facts.   

I watched some of the local news at Noon today and their delivery of the story was flawless.  They mentioned Rogan and misinformation on Spotify but the reporters couldn't articulate or cite a specific point of contention that was false.  

What these idiots don't seem to comprehend is that if they're vaccinated the concerns cited by experts impact them too.  Believing and going along with the official narrative is not going to protect you from harm if the concerns of opposing experts turn out to be true. Maybe they should listen?  

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8 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

That is also the Motto of the Simple! 

What the simple minded don't understand about the cigarette example is history shows the people supporting the smoking is safe narrative was the establishment, big government, big tobacco, federal and state regulators.  All working to protect the industry from harm.  They all knew it was harmful but as they were all riding the gravy train (Pink Floyd reference) they were more than happy to play along.   

 

The people that brought the truth to light were whistleblowers, independent researchers, medical doctors, public interest advocates, social justice advocates of the era, all bucking the system to expose the truth.  And being subject to harassment and attacks on their personal and professional character.  Sound familiar?  Their actions are consistent with the current experts being branded as spreaders of "misinformation".  And the current actions by big government and big pharma follow the tobacco industry and government complicity to a tee.

 

What's more simple minded is casually dismissing and not taking their COVID concerns seriously because your belief and support of authority and the official narrative will not protect you from personal harm to your health if they're conclusions derived from experience and subject matter expertise are correct.    

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