Giants cap situation and potential trade options

[YoloinOhio]

 

 

Bradberry played for McDermott in Carolina in 2016 and Beane was there when he was drafted. It’s a big salary but perhaps could be restructured. If Levi walks (spotrac projecting 9 mill/yr and I just don’t think the Bills value him there) and Tre starts the year on PUP, our CB1 is Dane Jackson and then who… a rookie? Anyway, something to consider. 

I’ll also take the punter and Rudolph 

[Estro]

The Giants top 4 cap hits heading into 2022 are:

 

Leonard Williams $27.3M

James Bradberry $21.9M

Kenny Golladay $21.1M

Adoree Jackson $15.3M

 

Absolutely brutal. The only player they can actually cut and save $$$ on is Bradberry, which is all but guaranteed given their cap situation (as the OP pointed out)

 

That Leonard Williams deal was a special kind of horrendous deal that Gettleman concocted.  

 

Looking a little further down the list I wouldn't be surprised if the Giants look to trade/cut Sterling Shepard.  Good player, but hurt a lot and they save $5M if cut.

[D. L. Hot-Flamethrower]

Wow! that's a HOF job putting together that 4-13 roster!

[78thealltimegreat]

That team is clearly in the running for Bryce Young in 2023 who will be the top qb next year as they are going to be awful

Young isn’t  Josh Allen but he’s got a great arm and should go number 1 over all then again he is an Alabama QB and they don’t exactly make great pros see Mac Jones and Tua 

Edited February 1, 2022 by 78thealltimegreat

[YoloinOhio]

Joe Schoen has his work cut out for him and i expect will completely overhaul things this year the way that Beane did with getting out of bad contracts, and it will be worse before it gets better roster wise, but they have good draft capital. Fortunately since the Bills are in win now mode and have a good relationship with Schoen, might be able to do some trades. Also nfc/afc thing will help. 

[Greg S]

So is there anyone we could use from their roster with regards to trades? With Beane/McDermott and Schoen/Daboll as the respective GM's/HC's I expect the Giants to become the new "Detroit Lions" for the Bills as we will probably play them in preseason every year. Probably have scrimmages against them leading up to the preseason game as well.

[BarleyNY]

3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

Bradberry played for McDermott in Carolina in 2016 and Beane was there when he was drafted. It’s a big salary but perhaps could be restructured. If Levi walks (spotrac projecting 9 mill/yr and I just don’t think the Bills value him there) and Tre starts the year on PUP, our CB1 is Dane Jackson and then who… a rookie? Anyway, something to consider. 

Good topic, YOLO.  He should be reasonable from a pick/player compensation standpoint since he’s on the last year of his deal - especially if he wants out of NJ.  If so - and if the Bills would want him long term - then he’d be willing to agree to a new contract as part of the trade and something could get done.  He’s a very good, starting CB and we need one of those (at minimum). 

[BuffaloRebound]

I’d expect the Bills and Giants to do some deals this off-season.  I’m sure Schoen values familiarity if he came from the McBeane tree.  

I wonder how highly Schoen values Edmunds?  I’d jump on a 2nd round offer.  Edmunds could be a nice building block for Giants.  Bills are at different stage and need a playmaker at that position to take next step.  

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

A big problem was Daboll not wearing one when he drove up in that hokey 'welcome' video yesterday.

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Maybe we lend them Glab and Brown for a week?

[Thurman#1]

9 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said:

I’d expect the Bills and Giants to do some deals this off-season.  I’m sure Schoen values familiarity if he came from the McBeane tree.  

I wonder how highly Schoen values Edmunds?  I’d jump on a 2nd round offer.  Edmunds could be a nice building block for Giants.  Bills are at different stage and need a playmaker at that position to take next step.  

 

 

We get it.

 

My God, do we get it! How could we avoid getting it when you folks relentlessly thread-nap again and again about your obsession.

 

Thing is, no matter how you feel about Edmunds, the Bills love him. Not to mention that the Giants are trying to cut salary and Edmunds will cost $13M this year. Probability roughly zero.

 

 

 

Anyway, Bradberry $13.4M seems unlikely to appeal to the Bills. They've generally tried to keep maybe one expensive good CB (even in Carolina) and keep costs down there outside of that guy. 

 

Yeah, they could re-structure, but it doesn't really fit their M.O.

 

I could be wrong, clearly, but I think they won't seriously consider him.

 

[filthymcnasty08]

Commence the "gutting"

 

That gift from Gettlemen that will keep on giving is the Golliday deal.  

 

Shepard cannot stay healthy - they should get rid of him.  He's good when he is, but he hasn't played a full season yet.

Engram is a glorified WR, he doesn't block.  Maybe a Cardinals/Bills style wide open offense would be better for him.

Saquan needs to be traded or he will perish further inside of a rebuild in his prime years.

Bradberry is primed to help a contender.  Damn you cap!!!!

 

 

[NewEra]

24 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said:

I’d expect the Bills and Giants to do some deals this off-season.  I’m sure Schoen values familiarity if he came from the McBeane tree.  

I wonder how highly Schoen values Edmunds?  I’d jump on a 2nd round offer.  Edmunds could be a nice building block for Giants.  Bills are at different stage and need a playmaker at that position to take next step.  

A second round pick for edmunds?  ROFL.  Schoen would never be so kind.  Or stupid 

[YoloinOhio]

35 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said:

I’d expect the Bills and Giants to do some deals this off-season.  I’m sure Schoen values familiarity if he came from the McBeane tree.  

I wonder how highly Schoen values Edmunds?  I’d jump on a 2nd round offer.  Edmunds could be a nice building block for Giants.  Bills are at different stage and need a playmaker at that position to take next step.  

I can’t see them trading for Edmunds, they don’t be able to fit his 5th year option 

10 minutes ago, NewEra said:

A second round pick for edmunds?  ROFL.  Schoen would never be so kind.  Or stupid 

Schoen was likely very involved in his draft evaluation 

[BuffaloRebound]

Just now, YoloinOhio said:

I can’t see them trading for Edmunds, they don’t be able to fit his 5th year option 

I assume they’d sign him to a long term deal.  He can be their Star Lotulelei.  

[NewEra]

3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

I can’t see them trading for Edmunds, they don’t be able to fit his 5th year option 

Schoen was likely very involved in his draft evaluation 

He likely was.  Hopefully he’s gone blind since he evaluated him.  

[T master]

If they could trade Star for Williams that might be good if they could get him for less total money on the cap he seems to be a bit of a upgrade but if that would come at the cost of losing Harry or someone else i'd rather not do that . 

[Mat68]

What many forget.  Daboll was not part of the tare down in Buffalo.  Mcdermott was able to isolate veteran leadership and remove those that didnt work or follow his way regardless of salary.  Beane was able to flip those players Mcdermott wanted out and piled assets to get Allen.  NYG are in a severely worse position than Buf was.  Idk what leadership is there and they have no cap to absorb the cap implications of removing the past contract mistakes. 

[MrEpsYtown]

22 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

I can’t see them trading for Edmunds, they don’t be able to fit his 5th year option 

Schoen was likely very involved in his draft evaluation 

 

They would have to do like Saquan for Edmunds...fifth year option for fifth year option. I don't want the Bills to pay a running back, but for one year at that price, it might work. 

 

I also think that Edmunds would excel inside or outside in a 3-4 defense like the one Patrick Graham is running. JMO

[GunnerBill]

1 hour ago, Estro said:

The Giants top 4 cap hits heading into 2022 are:

 

Leonard Williams $27.3M

James Bradberry $21.9M

Kenny Golladay $21.1M

Adoree Jackson $15.3M

 

Absolutely brutal. The only player they can actually cut and save $$$ on is Bradberry, which is all but guaranteed given their cap situation (as the OP pointed out)

 

That Leonard Williams deal was a special kind of horrendous deal that Gettleman concocted.  

 

Looking a little further down the list I wouldn't be surprised if the Giants look to trade/cut Sterling Shepard.  Good player, but hurt a lot and they save $5M if cut.

 

At least Leonard Williams is a good player. Yes he is overpaid at that number and he isn't a "great" player but he is a good player. Bradberry, Golladay and Jackson are average players paid like great players. Sterling Shepard too. He isn't very good. 

[TBBills]

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