KC Sports radio - loss is on Mahomes but it took Bills and Bengals to take the Chiefs out of the SB

[YoloinOhio]

I was listening to 610 KC this morning to get their take and they absolutely filleted Mahomes for his performance in the last 30:05 of the game. But I found their assessment of why that happened interesting. They said that the 13 seconds from last week is what led to him falling apart vs the Bengals in OT. And that the game they were forced to play by the Bills spilled over into yesterday and they couldn’t recover.
 

First, because he was able to hero his team to victory in the 13 seconds last week, he felt like he could do it again but situationally it was the wrong decision. He had running lanes and didn’t take them. He could have thrown the ball away and didn’t. He ran around in circles and tried to make the amazing play that never materialized because he thought it was his right after last week.

 

The narrative they had is the team itself acted like they won the SB last week. They came out after the half thinking it was over, they were blowing out Cincy after beating the better team already last week, and their plans for LA were already in motion. They used up all their juice last week, they were tired and overwhelmed by having to do it again yesterday. Last week took too much out of them. It took the Bills and Bengals to keep them out of the SB.
 

just found it interesting, not positive or negative 

Edited January 31, 2022 by YoloinOhio

[HOUSE]

Leslie Frazier HAS TO GO

 

[LeviF]

Tbh I don't think that's the worst analysis out there. There were other issues but these things could have contributed. 

 

Even after all of that though, they had the ball in OT with the chance to end it without Burrow touching the ball in the fifth period.

[Cray51]

5 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

I was listening to 610 KC this morning to get their take and they absolutely filleted Mahomes for his performance in the last 30:05 of the game. But I found their assessment of why that happened interesting. They said that the 13 seconds from last week is what led to him falling apart vs the Bengals in OT. And that the game they were forced to play by the Bills spilled over into yesterday and they couldn’t recover.
 

First, because he was able to hero his team to victory in the 13 seconds last week, he felt like he could do it again but situationally it was the wrong decision. He had running lanes and didn’t take them. He could have thrown the ball away and didn’t. He ran around in circles and tried to make the amazing play that never materialized because he thought it was his right after last week.

 

The narrative they had is the team itself acted like they won the SB last week. They came out after the half thinking it was over, they were blowing out Cincy after beating the better team already last week, and their plans for LA were already in motion. They used up all their juice last week, they were tired and overwhelmed by having to do it again yesterday. Last week took too much out of them. It took the Bills and Bengals to keep them out of the SB.
 

just found it interesting, not positive or negative 

Similar to the fears Bills fans had about the team coming out flat after the Patriots game.  Dont get too high or too low.

 

I think was really happened was the Bengals adjusting their D and Mahomes went back to forcing plays over and over again.  And they abandoned their screen game that has worked so well towards the end of the year.

[dma0034]

The AFC is going to be so difficult to win going forward. With Mahomes, Allen, Burrows, Herbert and Jackson potentially being playoff opponents every year (that's not including the possibility of Rodgers coming to the AFC or Lawrence/Jones becoming good). It could potentially be a Slugfest. You could have an AFC playoff picture that has: Allen, Burrows, Herbert, Jackson, Rodgers, Mahomes and Carr in next year and you are going to have to beat 2 maybe 3 verd good/elite QBs to get into the SB.

[BRH]

Much has been made of the Bengals' three-man rush in the second half.  Who knew that Reid and Mahomes would stick as stubbornly to the pass (25 out of 35 plays after halftime were passes)?  They lost their minds for a good 30 minutes plus.  That's a little different from 13 seconds.

[YoloinOhio]

1 minute ago, LeviF said:

Tbh I don't think that's the worst analysis out there. There were other issues but these things could have contributed. 

 

Even after all of that though, they had the ball in OT with the chance to end it without Burrow touching the ball in the fifth period.

That’s kind of their point. They won the coin toss again and thought they won the game. They forgot they had to play football against a defense they scored 3 points on in the previous 30:05.

[BRH]

Just now, dma0034 said:

The AFC is going to be so difficult to win going forward. With Mahomes, Allen, Burrows, Herbert and Jackson potentially being playoff opponents every year (that's not including the possibility of Rodgers coming to the AFC or Lawrence/Jones becoming good). It could potentially be a Slugfest. You could have an AFC playoff picture that has: Allen, Burrows, Herbert, Jackson, Rodgers, Mahomes and Carr in next year and you are going to have to beat 2 maybe 3 verd good/elite QBs to get into the SB.

 

Not Mac Jones?  🤣

[st pete gogolak]

Instead of specific reason, how about a general reason?  What's the record for teams following an OT win in the playoffs?  I forget exactly but it is horrendous, something like 1 - 11.  Generally, it's hard to win an OT game in the playoffs and come back next week to win.  Bengals v. Bills in AFCCG would have been anything but a cakewalk.  It would have been a dogfight.  On top of that, who's going to cover Chase?

[YoloinOhio]

2 minutes ago, dma0034 said:

The AFC is going to be so difficult to win going forward. With Mahomes, Allen, Burrows, Herbert and Jackson potentially being playoff opponents every year (that's not including the possibility of Rodgers coming to the AFC or Lawrence/Jones becoming good). It could potentially be a Slugfest. You could have an AFC playoff picture that has: Allen, Burrows, Herbert, Jackson, Rodgers, Mahomes and Carr in next year and you are going to have to beat 2 maybe 3 verd good/elite QBs to get into the SB.

And then once you get to the SB, you have to beat Daniel Jones 

[Stank_Nasty]

I personally think the Arrowhead mystique is done with.... They essentially got punched in the mouth in their own house 2 weeks in a row. They just so happened to get bailed out by an epic coaching meltdown. 

[BRH]

Just now, st pete gogolak said:

Instead of specific reason, how about a general reason?  What's the record for teams following an OT win in the playoffs?  I forget exactly but it is horrendous, something like 1 - 11.  Generally, it's hard to win an OT game in the playoffs and come back next week to win.  Bengals v. Bills in AFCCG would have been anything but a cakewalk.  It would have been a dogfight.  On top of that, who's going to cover Chase?

 

I know we won two playoff games immediately following an OT playoff win.... on the road, to boot. 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

12 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

I was listening to 610 KC this morning to get their take and they absolutely filleted Mahomes for his performance in the last 30:05 of the game. But I found their assessment of why that happened interesting. They said that the 13 seconds from last week is what led to him falling apart vs the Bengals in OT. And that the game they were forced to play by the Bills spilled over into yesterday and they couldn’t recover.
 

First, because he was able to hero his team to victory in the 13 seconds last week, he felt like he could do it again but situationally it was the wrong decision. He had running lanes and didn’t take them. He could have thrown the ball away and didn’t. He ran around in circles and tried to make the amazing play that never materialized because he thought it was his right after last week.

 

The narrative they had is the team itself acted like they won the SB last week. They came out after the half thinking it was over, they were blowing out Cincy after beating the better team already last week, and their plans for LA were already in motion. They used up all their juice last week, they were tired and overwhelmed by having to do it again yesterday. Last week took too much out of them. It took the Bills and Bengals to keep them out of the SB.
 

just found it interesting, not positive or negative 

 

I kind of had similar thoughts watching the game "Why is Mahomes running in circles instead of taking the running lanes he has there?" 

 

I thought they came out in the 2nd half looking past the Bengals.  It wasn't just on Mahomes though.  His guys had a number of dropped balls they would ordinarily haul in - Kelce, Hill, etc.

 

I do think that after a team plays a "give it all you got" "lay everything out there" epic, there is a tendency to fall flat the next game.  I thought the Bills did that a bit in the AFCCG last season after the hard-fought very physical Ravens game.

[YoloinOhio]

3 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said:

I personally think the Arrowhead mystique is done with.... They essentially got punched in the mouth in their own house 2 weeks in a row. They just so happened to get bailed out by an epic coaching meltdown. 

It was the 2nd largest road comeback in post season history. Road teams are 4-163 all time when down 18+ in playoff games. It was an epic collapse. 
 

im pretty sure the chiefs were involved in another similar playoff comeback at home by the titans - the one where Mariota threw the TD to himself a few years back 

Edited January 31, 2022 by YoloinOhio

[dma0034]

1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said:

And then once you get to the SB, you have to beat Daniel Jones 

 

 

Well that's the crazy part. If Brady retires and Rodgers goes to the AFC.... the best 4 QBs in the NFC are Murray, Prescott and Stafford and Wilson. You could be looking at the AFC having the best 5 QBs and 7 of the best 10 overall imo

[uninja]

It really does seem that if the Chiefs drop back to pass and you only rush three, keep a spy/late rusher and drop 8 into coverage it makes Mahomes glitch and turn into Blake Bortles.

[Sharky7337]

So basically he thought he was playing a Frazier coached defense again but wasn't.

[JohnNord]

15 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

I was listening to 610 KC this morning to get their take and they absolutely filleted Mahomes for his performance in the last 30:05 of the game. But I found their assessment of why that happened interesting. They said that the 13 seconds from last week is what led to him falling apart vs the Bengals in OT. And that the game they were forced to play by the Bills spilled over into yesterday and they couldn’t recover.
 

First, because he was able to hero his team to victory in the 13 seconds last week, he felt like he could do it again but situationally it was the wrong decision. He had running lanes and didn’t take them. He could have thrown the ball away and didn’t. He ran around in circles and tried to make the amazing play that never materialized because he thought it was his right after last week.

 

The narrative they had is the team itself acted like they won the SB last week. They came out after the half thinking it was over, they were blowing out Cincy after beating the better team already last week, and their plans for LA were already in motion. They used up all their juice last week, they were tired and overwhelmed by having to do it again yesterday. Last week took too much out of them. It took the Bills and Bengals to keep them out of the SB.
 

just found it interesting, not positive or negative 

Interesting….even if this is the case, it’s still an indictment of Mahomes 

[Sharky7337]

1 minute ago, uninja said:

It really does seem that if the Chiefs drop back to pass and you only rush three, keep a spy/late rusher and drop 8 into coverage it makes Mahomes glitch and turn into Blake Bortles.

Ya but their 3 actually got pressure too.

 

 

[BuffaloBillyG]

This is where some in the Chiefs message board are today on what happened...

 

 

"Maybe Brittney and Jackson were being threatened and at halftime Pat had to make a choice..."