starrymessenger Posted January 31, 2022 Posted January 31, 2022 7 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: Did they ever say the extent of the ACL injury? Was it a total tear? Haven’t seen a partial reported. I assume a total tear. His prognosis is 100% recovery however. Quote
NastyNateSoldiers Posted January 31, 2022 Posted January 31, 2022 15 hours ago, Magox said: For me Jameson Williams would be a dream pick. I honestly believe to go along with Diggs, Davis, Beasley and Knox would complete the receiving corps. Jameson would be our X factor and it’s possible he could replace the role that McKenzie played with the Bills. That over the top threat would open up more passing plays as safeties would have to always keep tabs of what Jameson would be doing. I strongly am pulling for a playmaking WR with the first pick. I believe there will be some to be had. If Jameson is still available at around the 20-22 pick the Bills should consider trading up a few picks to secure him. I believe Jameson could end up making the Bills the most potent offense in the league. And with either the 2nd or 3rd pick the Bills should look to draft a shifty, speedy receiving RB. Not a cowbell type but a receiving and change of pace specialist. And to complete my offensive wishlist, the Bills should look to get either via FA or draft a decent receiving threat who can block at a high level. Those aren’t easy to come by but the 12 formation I think could be a really potent one if we can have that 2nd TE at least be a decent threat on the receiving end. Invest in the offense more so than the defense. How about we just sign Will Fuller and Rashard Penny in free agency for cheap and then use the draft on defense and Oline? 1 1 Quote
The Wiz Posted January 31, 2022 Posted January 31, 2022 This is a great thread but I'm more interested in the 2922 mock draft. 1 Quote
Bill from NYC Posted January 31, 2022 Posted January 31, 2022 (edited) On 1/30/2022 at 7:54 AM, GunnerBill said: 6 – Carolina Panthers – Charles Cross, Offensive Tackle, Mississippi State Carolina’s biggest need is obviously Quarterback. I suspect they are going to try again for Deshaun Watson depending on his status by March because Rhule needs to win in 2022 and trusting a rookie Quarterback would be scary. But after that it is offensive line. Here is a start for you and for @BillfromNYC in particular…. The Panthers have drafted THREE first round running backs since they last spent a first round pick on the offensive line (2003). That surely has to change because that unit is a liability. Cross is my #1 offensive tackle and I think he is a guy you plug and play for a decade on the blindside. First of all, thanks for posting this. Posts are like this are what makes TSW such a good place in the offseason! I found the stat that you posted about Carolina so intriguing that I took a closer look..... Since 2003, they did not have a first round pick in 2 of the seasons. And you are correct, from 2004 until now they did not draft any offensive linemen in round 1. They did draft 3 CBs (not too bad lol). They also drafted no less than 4 LBs and 3 DTs. They drafted 2 wrs but one of them was Kelvin Benjamin. In other words, their drafts are historically stupid. My only other comment is that I am all but 100% certain that Jax will draft an OT, specifically Evan Neal. Cam Robinson is a nice player (and a bit of a head case) at LT but he is a UFA. I don't know if Jax wants him or if he wants to stay but even if he stays, I think that they will draft an OT to protect Trevor Lawrence, who is going to be great imo. If I was Lawrence and they drafted a DE with the 1st pick, I would be pissed off and hold it against the franchise in terms of staying there or leaving as a UFA when possible. Jmo and thanks again! Edited January 31, 2022 by Bill from NYC 1 Quote
Jim Bob Posted January 31, 2022 Posted January 31, 2022 If they can get a potential offensive gamechanger late in the 1st, I think they have to take that guy. Getting locked into any one or two positions is not great. While QB is off the board, passing a WR who falls due to an injury for an edge rusher or CB would not be smart. The Bills had two former 1st rounders in the their starting offense this season. Taking an offensive playmaker (or even an OL) would not be a bad idea. 1 Quote
Jim Bob Posted January 31, 2022 Posted January 31, 2022 (edited) https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/32987864/rb-jerome-ford-leader-example-leaves-cincinnati-football-program-enter-nfl-draft https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/jared-bernhardt-football-and-lacrosse-national-champion-he-s-so-extraordinary-/58726 And when it comes to adding later round and maybe UDFA offensive weapons, two of my favorite ideas are RB Jerome Ford from Cincinnati and Ferris St QB Jared Bernhardt. Ford started his college career at Alabama before transferring to Cincinnati. He will be one of the fastest RBs in this draft class and could add an element that the Bills don't have. Bernhardt likely won't get drafted until the last couple of rounds, or he could go completely undrafted. He only played one year of college football after being the best player in college lacrosse two years ago. He was an option QB at DII champion Ferris State and he could be a Chris Hogan-esque athlete (Hogan played lacrosse at Penn State before playing football at Monmouth. With Beasley nearing the end and the Bills needing some YAC WRs in the mix, Bernhardt is a guy that will be a late round or UDFA roll of the dice. But, I think he would be a really intriguing option for the Bills. Edited January 31, 2022 by Jim Bob Quote
mannc Posted January 31, 2022 Posted January 31, 2022 God I’d love to see Treylon Burks in a Bills uniform next year, somehow. Huge problem for opposing defenses. 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted January 31, 2022 Author Posted January 31, 2022 7 hours ago, The Wiz said: This is a great thread but I'm more interested in the 2922 mock draft. Still working on that one. But as a spoiler.... the Jets will need a Quarterback. 7 Quote
Bill from NYC Posted January 31, 2022 Posted January 31, 2022 25 minutes ago, Jim Bob said: https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/32987864/rb-jerome-ford-leader-example-leaves-cincinnati-football-program-enter-nfl-draft https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/jared-bernhardt-football-and-lacrosse-national-champion-he-s-so-extraordinary-/58726 And when it comes to adding later round and maybe UDFA offensive weapons, two of my favorite ideas are RB Jerome Ford from Cincinnati and Ferris St QB Jared Bernhardt. Ford started his college career at Alabama before transferring to Cincinnati. He will be one of the fastest RBs in this draft class and could add an element that the Bills don't have. Bernhardt likely won't get drafted until the last couple of rounds, or he could go completely undrafted. He only played one year of college football after being the best player in college lacrosse two years ago. He was an option QB at DII champion Ferris State and he could be a Chris Hogan-esque athlete (Hogan played lacrosse at Penn State before playing football at Monmouth. With Beasley nearing the end and the Bills needing some YAC WRs in the mix, Bernhardt is a guy that will be a late round or UDFA roll of the dice. But, I think he would be a really intriguing option for the Bills. Careful with Ford. The risk with him is the weak competetion that he faced at Cincinnati. At Alabama he was 4th or 5th string and barely saw any playing time. I am not saying that he isn't somewhat talented. I do not however think that he is worthy of a day 1 pick. Jmo. Quote
GunnerBill Posted January 31, 2022 Author Posted January 31, 2022 7 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said: Careful with Ford. The risk with him is the weak competetion that he faced at Cincinnati. At Alabama he was 4th or 5th string and barely saw any playing time. I am not saying that he isn't somewhat talented. I do not however think that he is worthy of a day 1 pick. Jmo. There isn't a back in this class worthy of 1st round consideration IMO. 4 Quote
Southern_Bills Posted January 31, 2022 Posted January 31, 2022 On 1/30/2022 at 7:15 AM, Roy Hobbs said: What do you think about Pickett to the Falcons @ 8 ? Ryan will be 37 this year and their current backups are not the answer. If QB talent was better this year they might. Quote
Bill from NYC Posted January 31, 2022 Posted January 31, 2022 11 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: There isn't a back in this class worthy of 1st round consideration IMO. I completely agree. Quote
Jim Bob Posted January 31, 2022 Posted January 31, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Bill from NYC said: Careful with Ford. The risk with him is the weak competetion that he faced at Cincinnati. At Alabama he was 4th or 5th string and barely saw any playing time. I am not saying that he isn't somewhat talented. I do not however think that he is worthy of a day 1 pick. Jmo. He is likely a mid-round guy. I wouldn't take any RB in the 1st or 2nd round for this team. And my post talked about how those two were later round to UDFA guys. Edited January 31, 2022 by Jim Bob 2 Quote
Cray51 Posted January 31, 2022 Posted January 31, 2022 @GunnerBill what are your thoughts on David Bell out of Purdue. Not the sexy first rounder WR that people may want, but he just seems to be so productive, and I think he beats man coverage better than most in the class. Decent size (6'2) and should run around a 4.48/4.52 at the combine - so not terribly slow. I would love him as a 2nd rounder if we go another route in the 1st, but always appreciate your take on players. 1 1 Quote
Reed83HOF Posted January 31, 2022 Posted January 31, 2022 If we can get him, swing for the fences Quote
buffaloaggie Posted February 1, 2022 Posted February 1, 2022 On 1/31/2022 at 6:48 AM, mannc said: God I’d love to see Treylon Burks in a Bills uniform next year, somehow. Huge problem for opposing defenses. Burks was dominant in every Arkansas game that I saw. He is a future NFL stud. 10 1/4" hands. I doubt you'll see drops from him Quote
mannc Posted February 1, 2022 Posted February 1, 2022 4 minutes ago, buffaloaggie said: Burks was dominant in every Arkansas game that I saw. He is a future NFL stud. 10 1/4" hands. I doubt you'll see drops from him Unfortunately, I doubt you’ll see him drop to the 25th pick either…. Quote
buffaloaggie Posted February 1, 2022 Posted February 1, 2022 1 minute ago, mannc said: Unfortunately, I doubt you’ll see him drop to the 25th pick either…. It'd be a shock. I have no use for Williams. He was the best Alabama had, but non-contact injuries scare me, and it's not a need for the Bills. We need to draft a CB, OL, DL or LB in the first. Elam would be a nice player to have fall to 25. Quote
ScorpionZero Posted February 1, 2022 Posted February 1, 2022 25.Chris Olave WR, diggs clone 57. John Metchie III WR, Replaces Sanders, maybe somebody Josh can't over throw 89. Breece Hall RB, big boy, with some long speed 126. Tyrese RobinsonI OL, grinder in the ditches 166. Jack Jones CB, inside/outside corner 184. Isaac Taylor-Stuart CB, needs work, but has all the tools 202. Chris Owens IOL, another grinder/developmental center 227. Juanyeh Thomas S, developmental prospect, safety/big nickel/special teams 242. Glen Logan IDL, space eater This is how the draft fell to me, had linderbaum in first I could've picked but went with Olave. More bang for the buck. After that I just looked for balance between rating and talent. The bills are at a place where they're projecting what the player is going to be and develop them as replacements to keep this train rolling along. 1 Quote
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