Gunner's 2022 Mock Draft (v3 and FINAL - p.17!!)

[Freddie's Dead]

9 hours ago, whorlnut said:

You realize Willis mcgahee was very solid while he was here, right?

 

Dude didn't even know it was 4th down and cost us a Cheats game at the Razor.  GTF outta here, solid my ass.  

[MarkyMannn]

9 hours ago, whorlnut said:

You realize Willis mcgahee was very solid while he was here, right?

I’m sure the Titans are regretting taking Jeffrey Simmons in the first, huh?

He was never the guy is was in college although to his credit he carved out a decent career after leaving Buffalo. Good for Titans IDC still a NO for me

[djp14150]

1 hour ago, starrymessenger said:

Yup. There is demand. But there is also supply.

What I’m saying is if you have extra 1st rounder you are more likely to take the better player even though injured over the best healthy player. You view this as a bonus pick and not necessarily needing to contributing now.

[starrymessenger]

1 minute ago, djp14150 said:

What I’m saying is if you have extra 1st rounder you are more likely to take the better player even though injured over the best healthy player. You view this as a bonus pick and not necessarily needing to contributing now.

Not sure I follow. Maybe just me. If Williams is there you jump on him imo. But thats because all reports that I’m familiar with seem to say his 4:3 speed will be unaffected and that he should be ready in Sept, Oct at the latest. I don’t really see him as an injured player around which there are serious questions  as far as the draft is concerned and thats why I doubt he falls to us.

[Golden]

I’m thinking Gunner nailed it.  In Beans hour long presser recently, he talks about making our strength stronger.  If Williams is there right before the Pats pick, I’m just not certain the Bills trade down.  

[jkeerie]

12 hours ago, chongli said:

Thanks for doing this long evaluation. I hope Williams would work out for Buffalo, but for some reason I am having flashbacks of Willis McGahee, lol. Who knows?

McGahee was a good back.  He just hated being in Buffalo.  Better to have flashbacks of Thurman Thomas.

[atlbillsfan1975]

Williams is never making it to the Bills. I wish, but think your mock will change and have him in the top 15 based off info on his rehab progress. 
I’ve seen Williams mocked to the Bills in a few of these so far. Makes me think it will never happen. Teams just saw how Burrow and Chase changed the Bengals in one season. Williams is that kind of game changer. 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

12 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said:

@GunnerBill, I'd be over the moon if the Bills were able to draft Jameson Williams. Immediate impact is what I'm looking for in this draft and he's it

 

Not if he’s still rehabbing an ACL tear.  That’s a 9-12 month rehab

[LyndonvilleBill]

1 hour ago, Golden said:

I’m thinking Gunner nailed it.  In Beans hour long presser recently, he talks about making our strength stronger.  If Williams is there right before the Pats pick, I’m just not certain the Bills trade down.  

Or he could have been talking about our secondary.🤔

[SCBills]

8 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Not if he’s still rehabbing an ACL tear.  That’s a 9-12 month rehab

Yup. That’s the only reason he’d be there.  If he is, we should jump on it.  We likely won’t be in position to get a WR talent like that via Draft for the next decade.    
 

Im ok waiting for him to come back mid-season or so…. Just get him ready for the playoffs. 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

7 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Yup. That’s the only reason he’d be there.  If he is, we should jump on it.  We likely won’t be in position to get a WR talent like that via Draft for the next decade.    
 

Im ok waiting for him to come back mid-season or so…. Just get him ready for the playoffs. 

 

So your definition of “immediate impact” is “maybe come back mid to end season”?

 

I’m not arguing about the draft choice, I don’t follow college football and have no business having an opinion.  I’m just pointing out the contradiction between looking for immediate impact, and drafting a player who likely won’t play for most of the season.

[Doc]

20 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

Not if he’s still rehabbing an ACL tear.  That’s a 9-12 month rehab

 

Yup.  And Tre got injured earlier than him.  So I still say CB.

[SCBills]

9 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

So your definition of “immediate impact” is “maybe come back mid to end season”?

 

I’m not arguing about the draft choice, I don’t follow college football and have no business having an opinion.  I’m just pointing out the contradiction between looking for immediate impact, and drafting a player who likely won’t play for most of the season.

I never said “immediate impact”

 

Im in favor of the pick because - due to him not being able to play immediately - we may be able to get him. 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

5 minutes ago, SCBills said:

I never said “immediate impact”

 

Im in favor of the pick because - due to him not being able to play immediately - we may be able to get him. 

 

Correct, you did not, that was the claim of the poster I was responding to, @Solomon Grundy

[Wyobills89]

I'm all for adding more weapons for Josh, but if Dean is there I really hope that's who we pick.  

[BillsShredder83]

48 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

So your definition of “immediate impact” is “maybe come back mid to end season”?

 

I’m not arguing about the draft choice, I don’t follow college football and have no business having an opinion.  I’m just pointing out the contradiction between looking for immediate impact, and drafting a player who likely won’t play for most of the season.

Immediate impact as in guy that can help us season 1.  Im sure we can manage 8 games without him, and then get some juice on the back end of the season, and time to catch some rhythm for playoffs

[starrymessenger]

56 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said:

Immediate impact as in guy that can help us season 1.  Im sure we can manage 8 games without him, and then get some juice on the back end of the season, and time to catch some rhythm for playoffs

All the news regarding Williams has been very positive. Pickens was back eight months after surgery.

[djp14150]

4 hours ago, starrymessenger said:

Not sure I follow. Maybe just me. If Williams is there you jump on him imo. But thats because all reports that I’m familiar with seem to say his 4:3 speed will be unaffected and that he should be ready in Sept, Oct at the latest. I don’t really see him as an injured player around which there are serious questions  as far as the draft is concerned and thats why I doubt he falls to us.

a team with pressure to win now and get an impact pkayer with their 1st might not take a risk on an injured player givrn you might not be fully 100% till 2923 season.

 

a team with multiple 1st round picks can take thst risk.

 

it’s similar to buffalo picking Rousseau given he didn’t play last year of college.  Buffalo could absorb that risk on a late 1st rd pick.

Edited January 31, 2022 by djp14150

[Solomon Grundy]

32 minutes ago, starrymessenger said:

All the news regarding Williams has been very positive. Pickens was back eight months after surgery.

Did they ever say the extent of the ACL injury? Was it a total tear? 

[starrymessenger]

20 minutes ago, djp14150 said:

a team with pressure to win now and get an impact pkayer with their 1st might not take a risk on an injured player givrn you might not be fully 100% till 2923 season.

 

a team with multiple 1st round picks can take thst risk.

 

it’s similar to buffalo picking Rousseau given he didn’t play last year of college.  Buffalo could absorb that risk on a late 1st rd pick.

Well personally I would roll the dice on Williams being able to contribute this year. As I mentioned elsewhere Pickens saw the field eight months after surgery. Dominick Blaylock also back after eight.These guys are not normal human beings and the get the benefit of world class rehab. Thats why I doubt he gets past receiver needy teams before we pick. 

Edited January 31, 2022 by starrymessenger