eball Posted January 29, 2022 Posted January 29, 2022 On 1/29/2022 at 12:46 PM, JMF2006 said: BRING ON THE "J-GUN" Expand It would still be the K-gun…the original was named for Keith McKellar. Now we have Knox. 4 Quote
Max Fischer Posted January 29, 2022 Posted January 29, 2022 If Dorsey is the guy, I’m in full support. There are other factors as important than OC “experience.” No outside OC will know the players as well, have watched every snap, who understands tendencies, saw what worked and what hasn’t, has the trust of players and coaches, knows the system, etc. IMO, for over a year, the Bills have evaluated Dorsey and their internal staff for just this decision. So far, all the chatter from management, coaches and players point to only one candidate. If there was any doubt about Dorsey’s qualifications, I think the Bills would have hinted that it’s an open process. Quote
JMF2006 Posted January 29, 2022 Posted January 29, 2022 On 1/29/2022 at 12:50 PM, eball said: It would still be the K-gun…the original was named for Keith McKellar. Now we have Knox. Expand I thought it was named after "Machine Gun Kelly" ? 1 1 Quote
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 29, 2022 Posted January 29, 2022 On 1/29/2022 at 12:49 PM, JMF2006 said: There is no way I would ever want the job even if I was semi qualified. Expand Were it to open up, there would be some clamouring to bring back Robert Foster, and getting Rosen's agent on the phone. 1 Quote
eball Posted January 29, 2022 Posted January 29, 2022 On 1/29/2022 at 12:48 PM, Buffalo_Stampede said: Doug Pedersen is the guy I think ends up being the Bills offensive coordinator if Dorsey goes to NY. Expand I would be 100% cool with that. He’s an aggressive SOB. Quote
eball Posted January 29, 2022 Posted January 29, 2022 On 1/29/2022 at 12:51 PM, JMF2006 said: I thought it was named after "Machine Gun Kelly" ? Expand Common misconception, my friend. 1 1 Quote
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 29, 2022 Posted January 29, 2022 On 1/29/2022 at 12:51 PM, eball said: I would be 100% cool with that. He’s an aggressive SOB. Expand He'd probably be 1 and gone though but he wants another HC job, there's no better spot to get it. I'm just not sure what his relationship is like with McDermott. They were on the same staff in Philadelphia. Quote
JMF2006 Posted January 29, 2022 Posted January 29, 2022 On 1/29/2022 at 12:51 PM, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Were it to open up, there would be some clamouring to bring back Robert Foster, and getting Rosen's agent on the phone. Expand I would bring back Trent as BU....we have His and Hers jerseys in the closet still 1 Quote
Max Fischer Posted January 29, 2022 Posted January 29, 2022 (edited) On 1/29/2022 at 12:31 PM, HOUSE said: The best possible guy will have OC experience and there are some guys out there. Expand “Bills pass on McDermott and Beane, want a coach and GM with experience.” Edited January 29, 2022 by Max Fischer Quote
HOUSE Posted January 29, 2022 Author Posted January 29, 2022 I am sure, quite sure that this is on the minds of Brandon Beane & Sean McDermott. A gamble could be a disaster. Sure, Dorsey "Might work out just fine" but after the last game and the pressure on both of them MIGHT result in an experienced option. We Shall see 2 Quote
eball Posted January 29, 2022 Posted January 29, 2022 Where’s @The Senator these days, banging the drum for Mike Leach? 4 Quote
streetkings01 Posted January 29, 2022 Posted January 29, 2022 On 1/29/2022 at 12:09 PM, HOUSE said: Now is not the time to fool around with an experiment hoping the next can do the job. This is a high powered offense and defenses around the NFL will come up with new strategy to stop it. There is a learning curve here, do you have the necessary patience ? Sure you do.....😁, We are a very forgiving bunch here.... Enter a rookie OC..... Sorry Guys, I want an experienced OC with a proven track record. The Next guy needs to be an upgrade over Daboll, not a settled for rookie Time is wasting away, the window won't be open forever...Rookie coaches are for expansion teams or bottom feeders, not a Superbowl Contender Expand So you wanna keep recycling the same crop of fired head coaches and offensive coordinators because that’s all that’s left out there? Quote
HOUSE Posted January 29, 2022 Author Posted January 29, 2022 On 1/29/2022 at 12:57 PM, streetkings01 said: So you wanna keep recycling the same crop of fired head coaches and offensive coordinators because that’s all that’s left out there? Expand Recycling is good, it saves the environment 1 Quote
ProcessTruster Posted January 29, 2022 Posted January 29, 2022 Give it to Dorsey. If for no other reason than I don't want McD choosing an offensive coordinator. Dorsey is all offense, all the time. the bills are close; don't take a chance on getting another Rick Dennison. His hiring of Rick Dennison had to be one of the worst hires the world's ever seen. Never let a defensive oriented guy pick the OC. 2 Quote
Max Fischer Posted January 29, 2022 Posted January 29, 2022 On 1/29/2022 at 12:56 PM, HOUSE said: I am sure, quite sure that this is on the minds of Brandon Beane & Sean McDermott. A gamble could be a disaster. Sure, Dorsey "Might work out just fine" but after the last game and the pressure on both of them MIGHT result in an experienced option. We Shall see Expand Every hired coach is a “gamble.” Which OC candidate is not? Who is most likely to have a productive working relationship with the current staff and coaches? Who is most likely to adapt to the talent on the roster? Who is most likely to have system that can be implemented effectively? There are many great football minds but that’s only one consideration in coaching hires. 1 Quote
loveorhatembillsfan4life Posted January 29, 2022 Posted January 29, 2022 (edited) We are not going to a run centric offense. You do that when you have a Jonathon Taylor or Derrick Henry, not our backs. That’s not to say A good runnjng game would be helpful to Josh though. It just won’t be our focus. There has got to be some smart minds out there that would be chomping at the bit to work with Josh. Edited January 29, 2022 by loveorhatembillsfan4life 1 Quote
Max Fischer Posted January 29, 2022 Posted January 29, 2022 On 1/29/2022 at 1:02 PM, ProcessTruster said: Give it to Dorsey. If for no other reason than I don't want McD choosing an offensive coordinator. Dorsey is all offense, all the time. the bills are close; don't take a chance on getting another Rick Dennison. His hiring of Rick Dennison had to be one of the worst hires the world's ever seen. Never let a defensive oriented guy pick the OC. Expand This logic makes little sense. McDermott hired Daboll. You may want to review the history of the Dennison hire. 2 Quote
The Wiz Posted January 29, 2022 Posted January 29, 2022 On 1/29/2022 at 12:57 PM, eball said: Where’s @The Senator these days, banging the drum for Mike Leach? Expand This exact thought just popped in my head. 😆 Quote
HOUSE Posted January 29, 2022 Author Posted January 29, 2022 On 1/29/2022 at 1:02 PM, Max Fischer said: Every hired coach is a “gamble.” Which OC candidate is not? Who is most likely to have a productive working relationship with the current staff and coaches? Who is most likely to adapt to the talent on the roster? Who is most likely to have system that can be implemented effectively? There are many great football minds but that’s only one consideration in coaching hires. Expand Its less of a gamble IF the Head Coach has OC experience , McD does not, JMO Quote
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