McDermott's first Offensive Coordinator hire back in 2017

[Solomon Grundy]

  On 1/29/2022 at 9:41 AM, MJS said:

That's called NFL football. I watch a lot of teams outside of Buffalo and there are mistakes made in every single game. It is the most complex sport in the world.

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Riverboat gambling, yes but straight up brain freezing. I would’ve liked to have seen John Harbaugh or even Mike Vrabel in those last 13 seconds 

[Einstein]

  On 1/29/2022 at 9:41 AM, MJS said:

That's called NFL football. I watch a lot of teams outside of Buffalo and there are mistakes made in every single game. It is the most complex sport in the world.

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There was nothing complex about those 13 seconds.

 

 

[without a drought]

  On 1/29/2022 at 5:15 AM, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

Hell no to all of that, Jones is career suicide

 

 

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Jones actually buys time, if he somehow turns into something, everybody is a genius. And if he doesn't, you probably get to hit the reset button because he wasn't anyone's guy.

[T master]

  On 1/29/2022 at 4:15 AM, Nextmanup said:

The sort of OC McDermott might hire if Daboll leaves scares me to death.

 

He's a defensive guy and just so conservative.

 

 

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Well given the fact that the Bills GM will have some say in the decision i will feel good about the choice but the choices given in this article doesn't really excite me i would much rather just give it to Dorsey i think it's his time !!

 

 https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2022/1/24/22899609/5-replacement-options-for-bills-offensive-coordinator-brian-daboll-ken-dorsey

[3rdnlng]

  On 1/29/2022 at 3:55 PM, Solomon Grundy said:

Riverboat gambling, yes but straight up brain freezing. I would’ve liked to have seen John Harbaugh or even Mike Vrabel in those last 13 seconds 

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Well, John Harbaugh was too busy screwing up his T-times for the next month while Vrabel was standing on the sidelines say "Who are those guys dressed as tigers"? 

[BarleyNY]

  On 1/29/2022 at 5:15 AM, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

Hell no to all of that, Jones is career suicide

 

 

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They'd get a chance to bring in their own QB.  They’re not tied to Jones long term.  I expect a Giants tear down  anyway. 

[TPS]

  On 1/29/2022 at 1:18 PM, Max Fischer said:

Your history lesson skips over a massive amount of context. 

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This is what I was looking for as I scanned the thread.  As I recall, several candidates bailed, and there weren't many options left.  The position wasn't an attractive one either with Taylor as QB under a first-year coach.  And, if you look at how the Daboll hire transpired, he was hired very quick after Dennison was let go.  It was as if McD had it in place before he hired BD.

 

 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

  On 1/29/2022 at 4:28 PM, BarleyNY said:

I expect a Giants tear down  anyway. 

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I wonder who will be in charge of cafeteria line etiquette and portions?  Maybe Gettleman can hire on as an independent contractor. 🤔

Edited January 29, 2022 by Ridgewaycynic2013

[Solomon Grundy]

  On 1/29/2022 at 4:25 PM, 3rdnlng said:

Well, John Harbaugh was too busy screwing up his T-times for the next month while Vrabel was standing on the sidelines say "Who are those guys dressed as tigers"? 

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If both of those guys had any type of competent QB play, they may have been on a sideline this week. That’s one problem McDermott didn’t have 

[ColoradoBills]

  On 1/29/2022 at 3:54 AM, Bag of Milk said:

The Bills interviewed:

 

Brad Childress

Greg Olson- withdrew to become Rams OC

Rick Dennison

Ken Dorsey

 

McDermott picked Rick Dennison.

 

 

Not an inspiring hire to say the least.

 

 

Good news is: McDermott fired Dennison after only one season.

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What a rookie HC with Tyrod Taylor as QB on a team that hadn't made the playoffs in 17 years compared to this upcoming situation

cannot be any farther apart.

IMO.

[3rdnlng]

  On 1/29/2022 at 7:19 PM, Solomon Grundy said:

If both of those guys had any type of competent QB play, they may have been on a sideline this week. That’s one problem McDermott didn’t have 

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[Cheektowaga Chad]

  On 1/29/2022 at 3:55 PM, Solomon Grundy said:

Riverboat gambling, yes but straight up brain freezing. I would’ve liked to have seen John Harbaugh or even Mike Vrabel in those last 13 seconds 

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Harbaugh is the reason the holding rule is in place now

 

Where if there are holding penalties on back to back plays and the refs deem it to be on purpose the clock is reset to when the play began 

[blacklabel]

I never thought much of the Dennison bite. IMO, it being McDermott's first year as a HC, I think he just wanted to surround himself with experience. 

[BrooklynBills]

  On 1/29/2022 at 12:31 PM, Captain_Quint said:

Yeah but he made a mistake before that and that's what this thread is about. 

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Nobody wanted the job. He wanted Daboll in the first year but Daboll wasn't interested (off the record though).

 

Everyone assumed the team was tanking.

[Buffalo Boy]

  On 1/29/2022 at 5:14 AM, Trogdor said:

You don't think having your first coordinator position being under and offensive mind you trust isn't attractive? Less pressure to win immediately and provide time to actually learn isn't attractive? I think a more seasoned guy might want to come to Buffalo, but a new coordinator would be on an island. They built to air it out, but the HC wants balance, so that's something they will always have to contend with. I can see him picking the Giants over Bills. 

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You know, it is ok to like yourself….. you deserve nice things.

[ArtVandalay]

  On 1/29/2022 at 6:09 AM, John from Riverside said:

I get so tired of people making like McDermott is stupid or something 

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Someone recorded the Chiefs game and hasn't watched it yet...

 

Also let's keep in mind he's the same coach that was obsessed with Nate Peterman.

 

But in all seriousness it should be Dorsey without question. It's the conservative route anyway because of continuity. 

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[Buffalo Barbarian]

  On 1/29/2022 at 4:28 PM, BarleyNY said:

They'd get a chance to bring in their own QB.  They’re not tied to Jones long term.  I expect a Giants tear down  anyway. 

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Aint no QB gonna be better than Allen.

 

 

[Buffalo Barbarian]

  On 1/29/2022 at 1:11 PM, Trogdor said:

The offense has only really been successful for 2 years. It was going nowhere fast before that. 

I agree with you, I just think it's a much softer landing for him. If he failed here it would be a much bigger blemish. 

A Bills offense regressing as he figures it out is suicide. It's win now here. 

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We arent regressing because Dorsey takes over. How do you know we dont get better??

 

[Trogdor]

  On 1/30/2022 at 8:12 AM, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

We arent regressing because Dorsey takes over. How do you know we dont get better??

 

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There is nothing saying he is staying. Right now its probably 50/50. That would mean a brand new system and everything that goes with that. 

[Buffalo Barbarian]

  On 1/30/2022 at 10:47 PM, Trogdor said:

There is nothing saying he is staying. Right now its probably 50/50. That would mean a brand new system and everything that goes with that. 

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there wont be a brand new system if Dorsey takes over , where do You come up with this stuff???