NastyNateSoldiers Posted January 29, 2022 Posted January 29, 2022 7 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said: Career 4.7 YPC. Is that really a JAG? What would be an improvement? There were 9 guys that had a higher YPC this year but 3 of the were QBs. How many of those running backs see light boxes as much as Singletary? Quote
NastyNateSoldiers Posted January 29, 2022 Posted January 29, 2022 5 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: 4.7 YPC for his career. He is not average and certainly not borderline average. He's also not elite or even close. But he's genuinely good. And that's nonsense that most great QBs "weren't able to get over the hump without a great running back." The fact is, some did and some didn't. But the more the rules have changed to favor the passing game, the more SB winners have not needed a great running back. Ronald Jones Jr./ Fournette Damine Williams / LeSean McCoy Sony Michel LeGarrette Blount LeGarrette Blount CJ Anderson / Ronnie Hillman LeGarrette Blount/ Shane Vereen, Stevan Ridley / Jonas Gray (with Gray as their leading rusher) Marshawn Lynch Ray Rice Ahmad Bradshaw / Brandon Jacobs Brandon Jackson / James Starks Mike Bell / Pierre Thomas / Reggie Bush (390 yards) Those are the significant RBs in the last 12 SB winners. Beyond Lynch and probably Rice before the incident, you've got a lot of decent to good RBs there. And yet Brady, Brees, Rodgers, Peyton and the others managed to get over the hump. A lot of these players your mentioning have way more talent then Singletary. Quote
filthymcnasty08 Posted January 29, 2022 Posted January 29, 2022 If there's a shot at Saquan, ya take it. His stock is low. Buy the dip. 1 1 1 Quote
T master Posted January 29, 2022 Posted January 29, 2022 I believe he is i just hope the coaching staff sees it ! Moss on the other hand i think needs to be trade bait maybe he can go to NY with Dabol but i never did like or understand the pick him & Motor are the same size and no real outstanding differences . He may be more of a north south type but he's not big enough IMHO for that role in the NFL the Bills need a bigger back to put in that role on this offense & Moss is not it I wish that Williams would have gotten a chance but now we will never know what he could have done here . Quote
PrimeTime101 Posted January 29, 2022 Posted January 29, 2022 Ok... Here is my problem With Devin... he is too in the middle type of HB. Devin lacks the power to run people over 4th and 2. Lacks to speed to take it to the house on any given play... We need an Extreme...... Fast shifty guy that can pop it outside and run the distance or a big tough guy that will bulldoze over you for that extra yard. Quote
The Firebaugh Kid Posted January 29, 2022 Posted January 29, 2022 Hes RB1 all day. But he needs to be complimented by a home run hitter and a bruiser. Quote
NastyNateSoldiers Posted January 29, 2022 Posted January 29, 2022 At the end of the day Singletary is a product of this offense and his stats are skewed from seeing more light boxes then 90% of the backs in the NFL. Like some said here he’s to small to run between the tackles and to slow to get outside on a consistent basis. He’s just not talented enough. When the weather changes in Buffalo the Bills need to adapt and yes part of this is having a capable Oline that can open holes consistently but other part is having a back that can make the defense pay when said hole is opened. Singletary is average at best and his stats are just as skewed as our defensive # 1 rating is. When we need him most he’s never any good . Against KC he had 10 carries for 26yds that’s not gonna cut it in a game of that magnitude where 1 play can make the difference between a win or a loss. The Bills need to get better at Running back and that doesn’t mean spending all there cap space to do it. Backs can be found all threw out the draft and in free agency. This off-season the free agent backs are looking very good .Players like Fournette, Penny, Sony, Melvin Gordon or D’Onta Foreman are available and none of these guys will break the bank to sign. All of these players would be a massive upgrade over Singletary . Quote
TheyCallMeAndy Posted January 29, 2022 Posted January 29, 2022 57 minutes ago, filthymcnasty08 said: If there's a shot at Saquan, ya take it. His stock is low. Buy the dip. Same with McCafree 1 Quote
Albany,n.y. Posted January 29, 2022 Posted January 29, 2022 No, the Bills need to draft 2 RBs. Definitely 1 early on & another mid round RB later. Singletary is on the last year of his contract next year and unless he comes back on the cheap, he's gone after 2022. There are no other NFL RBs on the roster, so almost a total revamp needs to be done ASAP. One of the main reasons the Bills lost 6 regular season games was because there wasn't much threat of RB production. The only real threat was Josh. That is not sustainable for winning a championship. The Bills may have been within 13 seconds of advancing last week, but the seeds were planted earlier by the lack of a balanced attack that cost us home field advantage. 1 Quote
Ethan in Cleveland Posted January 29, 2022 Author Posted January 29, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, PrimeTime101 said: Ok... Here is my problem With Devin... he is too in the middle type of HB. Devin lacks the power to run people over 4th and 2. Lacks to speed to take it to the house on any given play... We need an Extreme...... Fast shifty guy that can pop it outside and run the distance or a big tough guy that will bulldoze over you for that extra yard. Interesting take. I see your point. I'd probably favor speed but s big bruising back in Buffalo weather would be an asset. Bills have rarely had a big back. I Obviously OJ was a rare combination of both size and speed. Antowain Smith was a bruiser. And Lynch for a couple season. Edited January 29, 2022 by Ethan in Portland 1 Quote
OldTimer1960 Posted January 29, 2022 Posted January 29, 2022 16 hours ago, VaMilBill said: Motor is a solid second string level back. But he is not a premier guy. Sure, if he gets opportunities he’s going to put up some solid stats. Problem is he isn’t a home run hitter. He simply doesn’t have the speed to break away (from even LBs) not the ability to make people miss. Simply said, Motor doesn’t scare opposing defenses. I have no doubt we can do better than Motor. Although, he’s great to have as a change of pace back IMO. At RB, it isn’t just pure speed that matters. Vision, elusiveness, toughness power and ability to help in pass game (blocking or receiving) all matter. is Singletary All Pro? No, but if there is decent blocking, he is pretty good running the rock. He isn’t as much of a receiving threat as we might ideally like. Could they do better? Maybe, but with JA now eating a ton of cap, I think you need to spend the early picks on other spots to get good, cheap labor at more important spots. Quote
Thrivefourfive Posted January 29, 2022 Posted January 29, 2022 Having guys fresh in the playoffs is the end game. Period. Singletary isn’t going to “carry” any load. If he does, he’s done, and the Bills would be leaning on other backs in the playoffs. Singletary should be one of the guys that helps the team get through 17 games and then be in the mix for a bigger load in the tournament. Quote
Mat68 Posted January 29, 2022 Posted January 29, 2022 5 hours ago, filthymcnasty08 said: If there's a shot at Saquan, ya take it. His stock is low. Buy the dip. But you pay him 20 mil this year? His 5th year cap hit is larger than Allens. He hasnt earned that kind of money. Idk what kind of deal he would take. If you trade for him you are also extending him. Quote
Maine-iac Posted January 29, 2022 Posted January 29, 2022 I want to pay Saquan money to a running back like I want another hole in the head. Time and time again Motor has shown if you give him carries he produces. As much as I thought he was capable I might have questioned his ability on the goal line but guess what, with a little bit of creativity and again some carries he produced TD's in 6 straight games. It's hard to look like a great running back on a team that doesn't want to run. If the Bill's want to run the ball Singletary can do it. That said I would love to see a change of pace bruiser (a guy who weighs more than 230) who has more running skill than just a full back for short yardage so it isn't always Allen's job to run in short yardage. Quote
Turbo44 Posted January 30, 2022 Posted January 30, 2022 4 hours ago, Mat68 said: But you pay him 20 mil this year? His 5th year cap hit is larger than Allens. He hasnt earned that kind of money. Idk what kind of deal he would take. If you trade for him you are also extending him. Nope we don’t want either in or mccafrey - why would be want the next OC to be tempted to have Josh pass less. Motor is fine Quote
PrimeTime101 Posted January 30, 2022 Posted January 30, 2022 8 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said: Interesting take. I see your point. I'd probably favor speed but s big bruising back in Buffalo weather would be an asset. Bills have rarely had a big back. I Obviously OJ was a rare combination of both size and speed. Antowain Smith was a bruiser. And Lynch for a couple season. yea, again... the dude has grown on me but I feel we need one end of the spectrum or the other. Quote
Nextmanup Posted January 30, 2022 Posted January 30, 2022 I think everyone in the entire football world that thinks a RB is important in the modern game can be found posting in this thread! 😂 Hell, pick one up on waivers and call it good. I don't want to see us burn ANYTHING in the way of assets on one! Quote
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