PromoTheRobot Posted January 28, 2022 Posted January 28, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, Mopreme said: How was Tyreek Hill a 5th round pick? Probably because he didn't peak in college. Guys that peak are who draft pundits drool over. NFL personnel departments look for players that have potential. Here's another example. N'Keal Harry was a 1st rd pick while Gabriel Davis went in the 4th. Edited January 28, 2022 by PromoTheRobot Quote
Captain Hindsight Posted January 28, 2022 Posted January 28, 2022 6 hours ago, Mopreme said: How was Tyreek Hill a 5th round pick? He’s probably like a top 10 horrible human who plays in the NFL. Fits in well in KC Quote
FarrellsFinest Posted January 28, 2022 Posted January 28, 2022 6 hours ago, BuffaloBill said: Speed alone does not get it done. Marquise Goodwin had one of the NFL’s fastest 40 times but his durability was questionable during his Buffalo Bills time. As Beane said in his press conference, “track stars are not necessarily football players.” Tyreek Hill is a matchup challenge but it is not due to speed alone. Also remember that the Bills have Marquez Stevens 100 percentile three cone drill on the roster. He does not have the 40 of Tyreek but he has speed and shiftiness that is combined considered other worldly. You have to wonder if the Bills have on their roster already or will identify a matchup nightmare in this year’s draft. Goodwin was never really good in college either. Speed plus production is worth a flyer. Quote
Brand J Posted January 28, 2022 Posted January 28, 2022 Diggs was also a 5th round pick. Don’t know the story behind that. Quote
Nelius Posted January 28, 2022 Posted January 28, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: Point taken, but I’ll echo that even Goodwin has made a decent NFL career w/ his skill set. Was gonna say, I'd take peak Goodwin for a year with Josh Allen. I remember him having some good games in San Francisco but honestly had no idea he was only 40 yards short of a 1,000 yard season until a minute ago. Edited January 28, 2022 by Nelius 1 Quote
Norcalbillsfan Posted January 28, 2022 Posted January 28, 2022 7 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said: Don't think anyone is advocating for speed alone. In fact the WR group probably needs that 6'4" monster more so than they need more speed. Ya there's plenty of track stars out there, we need football speed. If Mckenzie leaves then I think we need speed at wr, but I think there's no question we could use speed out of our backfield. It blows my mind we don't have a great screen game with a qb like Allen. A change of pace guy with speed that can burn a defense if he gets a swing pass in space would add a huge element to Allen's arsenal. Quote
John from Riverside Posted January 28, 2022 Posted January 28, 2022 Speed is part of it but I want a yac monster Quote
Norcalbillsfan Posted January 28, 2022 Posted January 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Captain Hindsight said: He’s probably like a top 10 horrible human who plays in the NFL. Fits in well in KC Seriously though, people forget he beat a pregnant woman. He wins games, but he'd be tough to cheer for if i was a chiefs fan. Quote
BullBuchanan Posted January 28, 2022 Posted January 28, 2022 8 hours ago, clearwater cadet said: How about John Ross, guy was a 4.2ish guy, 1st round pick, very little production. I had no idea that he somehow caught 7 TDs against 210 yards with a 36% catch percentage. That's beyond weird. Quote
purple haze Posted January 28, 2022 Posted January 28, 2022 8 hours ago, BuffaloBill said: Speed alone does not get it done. Marquise Goodwin had one of the NFL’s fastest 40 times but his durability was questionable during his Buffalo Bills time. As Beane said in his press conference, “track stars are not necessarily football players.” Tyreek Hill is a matchup challenge but it is not due to speed alone. Also remember that the Bills have Marquez Stevens 100 percentile three cone drill on the roster. He does not have the 40 of Tyreek but he has speed and shiftiness that is combined considered other worldly. You have to wonder if the Bills have on their roster already or will identify a matchup nightmare in this year’s draft. Yeah, they have Stevenson. Develop him and still get more players with that speed trait. Quote
auburnbillsbacker Posted January 28, 2022 Posted January 28, 2022 9 hours ago, BuffaloBill said: Speed alone does not get it done. Marquise Goodwin had one of the NFL’s fastest 40 times but his durability was questionable during his Buffalo Bills time. As Beane said in his press conference, “track stars are not necessarily football players.” Tyreek Hill is a matchup challenge but it is not due to speed alone. Also remember that the Bills have Marquez Stevens 100 percentile three cone drill on the roster. He does not have the 40 of Tyreek but he has speed and shiftiness that is combined considered other worldly. You have to wonder if the Bills have on their roster already or will identify a matchup nightmare in this year’s draft. Wasn't Goodwin really good in San Fran? That being said, speed doesn’t always make a player good. Quote
BuffaloBill Posted January 28, 2022 Author Posted January 28, 2022 17 hours ago, TFBillsfan said: The current roster only has one player, McKenzie, that is ANY threat to outrun or take it to the house. While the WR group is strong YAC are low. Some of it could be due to the lack of crossing patterns the Bills ran this year. However, speed at RB and WR is lacking. Lastly, we finally have a QB that can throw the ball. We could “use” an infusion of speed on offense however, scoring hasn’t been our issue. We NEED a difference maker at DE, an impactful LB and another top CB. Offense needs a stronger IOL and a running back that is a better runner than our QB. IMO, I want Beane to be aggressive this offseason and get some difference makers. Make some deals, trade for some proven talent or FA’s and then supplement remaining lower needs in the draft. This is a huge offseason for the Bills if they want to hoist a SB trophy. Please don’t stand idle. Not true, 40 times for the Bills WR’s / TE’s: Emmanuel Sanders 4.41 Isaiah McKenzie - 4.42 Marquez Stevenson - 4.45 Stephon Diggs - 4.46 Cole Beasley 4.49 Gabriel Davis - 4.54 Dawson Knox 4.59 Isaiah Hodgkins - 4.61 Granted, Sanders has likely lost some of the top end speed - Diggs is only marginally slower than McKenzie - and is known to be able to take the top end off of D’s Quote
Reed83HOF Posted January 28, 2022 Posted January 28, 2022 17 hours ago, clearwater cadet said: How about John Ross, guy was a 4.2ish guy, 1st round pick, very little production. He is an xfactor on my madden team... With my stud QB Buck Fugger Quote
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