BuffaloBillyG Posted January 26, 2022 Posted January 26, 2022 (edited) 56 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: He talked about his production still being on par with previous seasons even though there were a lot of mouths to feed so to speak. Doesn’t mean anything definitive obviously but interesting nonetheless One key thing he said that isn't part of those quotes... Mentioned he hasn't sat down and discussed where Cole is at yet. I believe they anticipate that talk to go well, however one of any number of topics they discuss could make that change in a hurry. Edited January 26, 2022 by BuffaloBillyG 1 Quote
transplantbillsfan Posted January 26, 2022 Posted January 26, 2022 If we have to choose between cutting Cole or resigning McKenzie can we please please please resign McKenzie? 1 2 Quote
Seventeen Posted January 26, 2022 Posted January 26, 2022 54 minutes ago, ArtVandalay said: This is true but consider this... he repeated the same 82 catches as last year but instead had 693 years compared to 967 the year prior, he was down to 8.5 YPC the lowest of his career. He is still sure handed with a 73% catch rate, but he had 0 broken tackles this year. Like I said, I love the guy, but at 32 years old this year and going to be 33 next year, I don't see him getting any more spry unless he was playing injured which is a possibility. I actually think Diggs was playing hurt this year but that's a different topic. I like him, but his age and athletic slide is real. His contract isn't bad but I think if he's back it is on a restructure because we can save a lot of money moving on and we have no cap space. Release him and watch Belichick snap him up for noodle arm. 1 3 1 Quote
BuffaloBillyG Posted January 26, 2022 Posted January 26, 2022 1 minute ago, Roy Hobbs said: Release him and watch Belichick snap him up for noodle arm. Saying every FA will be snapped up by Belichick....it's officially our offseason. 1 1 5 Quote
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 26, 2022 Posted January 26, 2022 (edited) Cole is under contract is the key statement. Beane isn't going to announce anything today. I anticipate Beasley will be asked to play for less money and then be released. Edited January 26, 2022 by Buffalo_Stampede Quote
Jim Bob Posted January 26, 2022 Posted January 26, 2022 1 hour ago, ArtVandalay said: Better be a restructure then. I love Beasley but unless he was playing injured he's lost too much athleticism. Yards after catch really really lacked. Actually, it was his Yards Before Catch that were way down in 2021 compared to 2019 & 2020. Yards Before Catch Per Reception 2019 6.7 2020 7.5 2021 4.7 Yards After Catch Per Reception 2019 4.9 2020 4.3 2021 3.7 Quote
Jerome007 Posted January 26, 2022 Posted January 26, 2022 Cap juggling and restructuring will happen with many players. Stop singling out Beasley. I do believe he will be one of them to have to restructure or be gone. But we all know why some of you foam at the mouth... 3 Quote
LABILLBACKER Posted January 26, 2022 Posted January 26, 2022 Uh oh, he used the "he's still under contract" reference. That guarantees he's gone. I like Cole and will always appreciate his clutch 1st down catches but age is slowing him down. Not to mention all the vax distractions. I think McK takes his slot spot. And both Sanders & Cole will be gone. We'll likely draft another wr. Quote
Process Posted January 26, 2022 Posted January 26, 2022 11 minutes ago, Jim Bob said: Actually, it was his Yards Before Catch that were way down in 2021 compared to 2019 & 2020. Yards Before Catch Per Reception 2019 6.7 2020 7.5 2021 4.7 Yards After Catch Per Reception 2019 4.9 2020 4.3 2021 3.7 This is not surprising. I recall several downfield throws to Beasley last season but hardly any from this year. Quote
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 26, 2022 Posted January 26, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, ArtVandalay said: Better be a restructure then. I love Beasley but unless he was playing injured he's lost too much athleticism. Yards after catch really really lacked. Still, his vertical jump is miles ahead of yours...🤔 Edited January 26, 2022 by Ridgewaycynic2013 Quote
In Summary Posted January 26, 2022 Posted January 26, 2022 I'd like him back at a fair price. Give him 40% of the snaps. Better be sure McKenzie or other can give you the same saving 3rd down conversions before you cut him. Quote
78thealltimegreat Posted January 26, 2022 Posted January 26, 2022 Cole did have 82 catches and clearly Josh has a comfortability with him in key spots…I’d expect him to be asked to restructure rather then just be released as it isn’t easy to replace that kind of production but I highly suspect the Bills will add a speed receiver through free agency or the draft 2 2 Quote
Jim Bob Posted January 26, 2022 Posted January 26, 2022 24 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Cole did have 82 catches and clearly Josh has a comfortability with him in key spots…I’d expect him to be asked to restructure rather then just be released as it isn’t easy to replace that kind of production but I highly suspect the Bills will add a speed receiver through free agency or the draft With Sanders and McKenzie hitting FA and the questions around Beasley and his contract, it will be interesting to see how Beane deals with the WR depth this off season. Here are the WR targets this season: Diggs 164 Beasley 112 Sanders 72 Davis 63 McKenzie 26 Kumerow 6 I won't be surprised if they let Sanders and McKenzie walk, restructure both Diggs and Beasley to create cap space, and then they add one WR in the draft and a FA WR on a one year 'Prove It' deal. I will be mildly surprised if Beasley is cut unless he chooses to not re-do his deal to help with the cap. 2 Quote
Magox Posted January 26, 2022 Posted January 26, 2022 There were really only two receivers who helped make a difference stat wise against the Chiefs, Gabe Davis and Beasley. People just say "Just replace Beasley with McKenzie", it's a different skill set, they both play the game differently, what McKenzie can do well, Beasley can't, what Beasley can do well, McKenzie can't. They both have their value, but I'd be willing to bet you that the league still values Beasley more so than McKenzie. I would love to keep both if they could both be had for $3-4 Million a piece, not sure if we can swing that but if we were to have one, it would be a tough choice. 3 1 Quote
Utah John Posted January 26, 2022 Posted January 26, 2022 A lot depends on what McKenzie does. If Daboll leaves and brings McKenzie with him, keeping Beasley becomes more important. Why would McKenzie leave? He loves Daboll and he'll always be pissed about being benched for a tiny thing like fumbling a kickoff without being touched. 29 minutes ago, Magox said: There were really only two receivers who helped make a difference stat wise against the Chiefs, Gabe Davis and Beasley. People just say "Just replace Beasley with McKenzie", it's a different skill set, they both play the game differently, what McKenzie can do well, Beasley can't, what Beasley can do well, McKenzie can't. They both have their value, but I'd be willing to bet you that the league still values Beasley more so than McKenzie. I would love to keep both if they could both be had for $3-4 Million a piece, not sure if we can swing that but if we were to have one, it would be a tough choice. Beasley has been our Kelce, the guy the QB goes to to move the chains. He's been very valuable for that and did his job very well. But it could be the Bills are thinking that our Kelce should be a tight end, not a slot receiver. It could be they look at Knox and think he's ready for that role. Of course Knox did drop a short pass early in the Chiefs game... 1 1 Quote
ghostwriter Posted January 26, 2022 Posted January 26, 2022 Back in 2019, I was a big fan of Cole Beasley when he signed here. We got two great years out of him and I deeply respected him for his decision to not get vaccinated, but he was terrible this year, flat out. We need a huge upgrade in the slot. Dump Cole, bring in Christian Kirk and draft a talented player in the draft on top of that.. Josh needs better weapons than this. I tip my hat to Beane for signing him in the first place, but the only way Cole should be in a Bills uniform next year is if he takes a 50% pay cut and we keep him on as our 4th WR. Quote
Charles Romes Posted January 26, 2022 Posted January 26, 2022 How much better our God at QB can make anyone look has to be the primary factor. Quote
sir andrew Posted January 26, 2022 Posted January 26, 2022 I'd like to see either Beasley or Mackenzie retained. By the sound of things, though, it sounded like Mack was ready to get outta here. Quote
FilthyBeast Posted January 26, 2022 Posted January 26, 2022 If he's back next year it's obviously not going to be under his current contract/cap hit. And I'm still not sold on the idea that McKenzie is some sort of cheaper, drop in replacement because of one great game in 3+ years in Buffalo. Still think he will follow Daboll wherever he goes anyway. 2 Quote
Helpmenow Posted January 26, 2022 Posted January 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Victory Formation said: Back in 2019, I was a big fan of Cole Beasley when he signed here. We got two great years out of him and I deeply respected him for his decision to not get vaccinated, but he was terrible this year, flat out. We need a huge upgrade in the slot. Dump Cole, bring in Christian Kirk and draft a talented player in the draft on top of that.. Josh needs better weapons than this. I tip my hat to Beane for signing him in the first place, but the only way Cole should be in a Bills uniform next year is if he takes a 50% pay cut and we keep him on as our 4th WR. 82 catches us terrible, lol Quote
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