Chef Jim Posted February 17, 2022 Posted February 17, 2022 18 minutes ago, BillStime said: Don't you hate when facts get in the way? Yes the fact that he disrespects you got in the way of him arguing with you. 😂 7 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Yes, but not economically disruptive like these are That’s why these will work and BLM and ANTIFA didn’t. You know kind of like economic sanctions you all cry for.
B-Man Posted February 17, 2022 Posted February 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: A whole hour?? So, if it lasts longer its much worse, right? Trudeau voices support for farmers in India who blocked major highways to New Delhi for more than a year in 2021, saying at the time: “Canada will always be there to defend the right of peaceful protest.” That certainly didn’t age well Justine. Were you lying then or are you lying now? 1
All_Pro_Bills Posted February 17, 2022 Posted February 17, 2022 7 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Yes, but not economically disruptive like these are That's a bit of revisionist history as Antifa and BLM protests that included riots, looting, and property destruction, and violence against others were indeed economically disruptive. 2
Tiberius Posted February 17, 2022 Posted February 17, 2022 3 minutes ago, B-Man said: Trudeau voices support for farmers in India who blocked major highways to New Delhi for more than a year in 2021, saying at the time: “Canada will always be there to defend the right of peaceful protest.” That certainly didn’t age well Justine. Were you lying then or are you lying now? Ok, ya, this matters 3 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: That's a bit of revisionist history as Antifa and BLM protests that included riots, looting, and property destruction, and violence against others were indeed economically disruptive. Different, these protests are there to stop commercial activity on a wide scale
SoCal Deek Posted February 17, 2022 Posted February 17, 2022 55 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said: Ok SoCal. Streets where people live and unable to sleep, park their cars, drive to their homes have been held captive for 19 days. Thus is not in a place like the Washingtin monu. The need for the Act is ridiculous, but supported by all political parties, a feat that us impossible in Washington. Yes Trudeau is a wimp, but has fairly treated the protesting citizens, but the time has come to allow other citizens to return to their homes. Now answer my question.
Big Blitz Posted February 17, 2022 Posted February 17, 2022 32 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Ok, ya, this matters Different, these protests are there to stop commercial activity on a wide scale How about instead of twisting yourself into a pretzel about thr validity of the protests you comment on the validity of their concerns and their Fuhrer's response. Same Bill Stime. Who keeps posting about fox news and who's behind the truckers. Like they cared about the communist groups behind BLM and the George Floyd protests. 1
Tiberius Posted February 17, 2022 Posted February 17, 2022 4 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: How about instead of twisting yourself into a pretzel about thr validity of the protests you comment on the validity of their concerns and their Fuhrer's response. Same Bill Stime. Who keeps posting about fox news and who's behind the truckers. Like they cared about the communist groups behind BLM and the George Floyd protests. You seem to be saying that these commercial roadblocks are ok. But that BLM protests are bad. Is that right?
Big Blitz Posted February 17, 2022 Posted February 17, 2022 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: You seem to be saying that these commercial roadblocks are ok. But that BLM protests are bad. Is that right? No. I'm saying both are fine. The voters can decide if their mayors allowing that was OK. I didn't call for Trump to freeze bank accounts and declare martial law. I jdisagreed with the socialists in BLM's "cause." 1 1
Westside Posted February 17, 2022 Posted February 17, 2022 10 minutes ago, Tiberius said: You seem to be saying that these commercial roadblocks are ok. But that BLM protests are bad. Is that right? No, that’s exactly what you are saying 1
Tiberius Posted February 17, 2022 Posted February 17, 2022 16 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: No. I'm saying both are fine. The voters can decide if their mayors allowing that was OK. I didn't call for Trump to freeze bank accounts and declare martial law. I jdisagreed with the socialists in BLM's "cause." You think it's fine if they attempt to disrupt the economy? I don't. No way
Niagara Bill Posted February 17, 2022 Posted February 17, 2022 1 hour ago, LeviF said: Which part of the Enabl-, er, sorry, Emergencies Act, is invoked to "avoid cornering?" Their government refuses to budge on any of the mandates. This is their only stated goal, and Trudeau won't even come to the table. I'm editing hopefully quickly enough that you'll catch all of this because I have to ask: if this (freezing bank accounts, labeling citizens as terrorists) is how Trudeau treats potent, nonviolent, citizen opposition, what does that say about protests in which these things do not occur? Nah I'm sanguine. New York kind of sucks but America generally rocks, regardless of whatever ridiculous crap comes out of Washington every year. No government can respond to 300 citizens demand in an area that 88% of people were vaxxed, who followed the rules requested. Many restrictions including travel types, passports, some masking, restaurants to 100%, sports venues have already been announced and scheduled to change in the next 14 days. What is the point. Truckers from Canada can STILL not enter US unless fully vaxxed. As to banks accounts and terrorist, the legal issue is to allow dealing with groups like proud boys, gangs and others who are now entering the fray. In Alberta the good protesters went home when 11 people were arrested in the blockade with guns and weapons. The original protesters were honest and true, others are now trying to take advantage. There us no need for US donations or Russian donations unless it is truly just a cover for a more nefarious plot. Trudeau has lost the hill and any good will he could have had. The Ottawa mayor is in trouble, the Police chief quit, obviously a lot of political interference. 58 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Now answer my question. Never saw a question, just a political pronouncement
SoCal Deek Posted February 17, 2022 Posted February 17, 2022 5 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said: No government can respond to 300 citizens demand in an area that 88% of people were vaxxed, who followed the rules requested. Many restrictions including travel types, passports, some masking, restaurants to 100%, sports venues have already been announced and scheduled to change in the next 14 days. What is the point. Truckers from Canada can STILL not enter US unless fully vaxxed. As to banks accounts and terrorist, the legal issue is to allow dealing with groups like proud boys, gangs and others who are now entering the fray. In Alberta the good protesters went home when 11 people were arrested in the blockade with guns and weapons. The original protesters were honest and true, others are now trying to take advantage. There us no need for US donations or Russian donations unless it is truly just a cover for a more nefarious plot. Trudeau has lost the hill and any good will he could have had. The Ottawa mayor is in trouble, the Police chief quit, obviously a lot of political interference. Never saw a question, just a political pronouncement I asked whether the PM would be tapping into back accounts if the protest was in favor of his administration?
Tiberius Posted February 17, 2022 Posted February 17, 2022 "We should be able to do anything, I mean BLM happened!"
aristocrat Posted February 17, 2022 Posted February 17, 2022 4 minutes ago, Tiberius said: "We should be able to do anything, I mean BLM happened!" You need to differentiate between violence and rioting and having an actual protest. You know the difference don't you?
Chef Jim Posted February 17, 2022 Posted February 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: Different, these protests are there to stop commercial activity on a wide scale So we have you on record as saying the destruction of the local economies due to protest are a-ok?
Tiberius Posted February 17, 2022 Posted February 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, aristocrat said: You need to differentiate between violence and rioting and having an actual protest. You know the difference don't you? If they are going to try and gum up the economy, just arrest them and ship them off to camps.
aristocrat Posted February 17, 2022 Posted February 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, Tiberius said: If they are going to try and gum up the economy, just arrest them and ship them off to camps. So during the riots there was well over 2 billion in property damage alone, they shut down countless businesses as they rioted all summer and the businesses stayed boarded up. So you would have sent the blm to camps?
Big Blitz Posted February 17, 2022 Posted February 17, 2022 23 minutes ago, Tiberius said: You think it's fine if they attempt to disrupt the economy? I don't. No way Really? I've got a March 20th 2020 or whatever day it was shutdown order that saw 33 million jobs lost. You didn't mind that. "Disrupt the economy bad." But people losing livelihoods is OK. Makes sense.
Tiberius Posted February 17, 2022 Posted February 17, 2022 1 minute ago, Big Blitz said: Really? I've got a March 20th 2020 or whatever day it was shutdown order that saw 33 million jobs lost. You didn't mind that. "Disrupt the economy bad." But people losing livelihoods is OK. Makes sense. And that makes what the "truckers" are doing ok?
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