SydneyBillsFan Posted January 26, 2022 Posted January 26, 2022 I would just like to hear his thoughts on why the 16th-ranked KC defense got more pressure on Josh than the top-ranked defense got on Mahomes after drafting 3 edge rushers in the first 2 rounds. 4 1 Quote
Big Blitz Posted January 26, 2022 Posted January 26, 2022 5 minutes ago, JayBaller10 said: I was amazed and encouraged by how well the OL pass blocked against the Chiefs. Didn’t hear at all from Chris Jones or Frank Clark really, though Ingram made a few plays. What do you do in this situation? A finesse OL that doesn’t run block well, but can pass block efficiently. Who do you look to upgrade? Bates? He wasn’t at all a weakness. Is Morse sticking around? Agreed the middle of the line played well - and it makes you reconsider how big a need Guard suddenly is. It is a need but I no longer call it vital like we did in week 8. I think you draft the best Center you can maybe play him at guard for a year to eventually move. Draft 1 or 2 interior oline. Draft 2 DBs. Draft a WR and RB. I'd prioritize Corner then interior oline - but if the corners at 25 are not so certain and a stud Center is there, I'm taking the stud Center. 1 Quote
Mark Vader Posted January 26, 2022 Posted January 26, 2022 22 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: great, more average additions to the D, and more average results and an early playoff exit. Sucks for Josh to have to watch that shi* show from the sidelines. I'm not absolving the horrendous coaching at all. It's really both, personnel and coaching. If you hire Frazier, who only really rushes 4, you need a stud DE. And our strategy was to draft one and hope he was a day 1 stud. Mind boggling. Not being big spenders could also mean that we aren't spending everything. A lot can change from now and St. Patrick's Day. 1 Quote
Big Blitz Posted January 26, 2022 Posted January 26, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, SydneyBillsFan said: I would just like to hear his thoughts on why the 16th-ranked KC defense got more pressure on Josh than the top-ranked defense got on Mahomes after drafting 3 edge rushers in the first 2 rounds. Because the Chiefs (I'll keep saying this) moved heaven and earth to upgrade their oline after it collapsed last year. I want that kind of focus on our weaknesses this off season. Imo the 2021 off season was an overall failure bc we didn't improve enough we still lost 7 total games. Edited January 26, 2022 by Big Blitz Quote
finn Posted January 26, 2022 Posted January 26, 2022 8 minutes ago, SydneyBillsFan said: I would just like to hear his thoughts on why the 16th-ranked KC defense got more pressure on Josh than the top-ranked defense got on Mahomes after drafting 3 edge rushers in the first 2 rounds. I suspect he might not address how KC drafted a pro bowl level center right after we picked Basham and later a starting-quality guard for I think a 6th round pick, in addition to upgrading both tackle spots. No need to point out how KC was one step ahead of him again. 3 1 Quote
SydneyBillsFan Posted January 26, 2022 Posted January 26, 2022 18 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Because the Chiefs (I'll keep saying this) moved heaven and earth to upgrade their oline after it collapsed last year. I want that kind of focus on our weaknesses this off season. Imo the 2021 off season was an overall failure bc we didn't improve enough we still lost 7 total games. OK, so they upgraded their O-line. But Beane used 3 top-60 picks on edge guys alone and, as harsh as it may sound, they were not even a blip on the sack radar. Given that the 2021 draft strategy was to get guys who could put more pressure on Mahomes, I would say that the type of edge rushers drafted do not appear to be up to it (I know they are young) and the spotlight should probably be on the scouting department - that is what I would like to hear him dissect. Quote
MWK Posted January 26, 2022 Posted January 26, 2022 43 minutes ago, Process said: Beasley Star Klien Davis Brown ???? I don't expect the first three to be on the team next year. Probably doesn't matter anymore anyways, I doubt there will be any restrictions/daily testing. Poyer 29 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Because the Chiefs (I'll keep saying this) moved heaven and earth to upgrade their oline after it collapsed last year. I want that kind of focus on our weaknesses this off season. Imo the 2021 off season was an overall failure bc we didn't improve enough we still lost 7 total games. We did nothing. Adding Sanders, Rousseau, and Basham was it, and look at the results. We need changes!!! I hope we take your suggestion Quote
YoloinOhio Posted January 26, 2022 Posted January 26, 2022 39 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: I’d like another disruptor who can pressure from the interior. Oliver is the only one on roster who gives you that consistently. Would like to add someone next to him He said he is looking to add to the DL Quote
Big Blitz Posted January 26, 2022 Posted January 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, SydneyBillsFan said: OK, so they upgraded their O-line. But Beane used 3 top-60 picks on edge guys alone and, as harsh as it may sound, they were not even a blip on the sack radar. Given that the 2021 draft strategy was to get guys who could put more pressure on Mahomes, I would say that the type of edge rushers drafted do not appear to be up to it (I know they are young) and the spotlight should probably be on the scouting department - that is what I would like to hear him dissect. Yea I'm not disagreeing with you. But Basham and Rousseau are the wild cards next year. If they turn out the way Beane felt they can, this defense could become nasty real quick. AJ appears to be a bust but as a 2nd round pick it is what it is. And a late 2nd. We say we keep going BPA but it sure does seem like we are drafting for need first. We passed on Dobbins, AJ Dillon, and Antonio Gibson for Epenessa. Then picked Moss in round 3. 1 1 1 Quote
TPS Posted January 26, 2022 Posted January 26, 2022 51 minutes ago, loveorhatembillsfan4life said: I don't think Levi is going to come cheap. I read an article about him on the Athletic and Levi views himself as one of the Best Off Ball corners since Tre went down. Couple that with his Agent basically saying the Bills looked every which way to upgrade him the past two years, I think his agent and him have taken the mindset that you want to keep me, show me the money. They let him test the market last year, and he came back. They will most likely let him see what he can get again, then decide if they should make him an offer. Quote
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 26, 2022 Posted January 26, 2022 Original live link from Buffalobills.com not working Link I found on Bills Facebook site that seems working: https://www.facebook.com/watch/live/?ref=watch_permalink&v=343520150765212 You may need a Facebook account to access this Quote
YoloinOhio Posted January 26, 2022 Posted January 26, 2022 Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said: Original live link from Buffalobills.com not working Link I found on Bills Facebook site that seems working: https://www.facebook.com/watch/live/?ref=watch_permalink&v=343520150765212 You may need a Facebook account to access this The twitter post from upthread should work, just click play fyi it is 70 minutes long Quote
Nitro Posted January 26, 2022 Posted January 26, 2022 With 16 UFA and the draft, he and his team will be busy. I watched and I am confident he will do his best to stock the roster with players to get this team over the top. Quote
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 26, 2022 Posted January 26, 2022 58 minutes ago, loveorhatembillsfan4life said: I don't think Levi is going to come cheap. I read an article about him on the Athletic and Levi views himself as one of the Best Off Ball corners since Tre went down. Couple that with his Agent basically saying the Bills looked every which way to upgrade him the past two years, I think his agent and him have taken the mindset that you want to keep me, show me the money. I'm sure that's what his mindset and his agent's mindset is, but the fact is, the Bills were not really "looking every which way" to replace Wallace the past two years. They took a flier on an aging corner who played great in McD's system when in his prime for $6M (which seems to be some kind of sweet spot Beane is willing to pay for a 1 yr FA). They drafted a CB in the 7th round last year who made the team, and a CB in the 6th round this past year who didn't. Absolutely Wallace outplayed all those guys, but it's not exactly leaping over a star-studded heap. Leslie Frazier FWIW gave Wallace a strong endorsement saying "I don't think he's reached his peak yet" Spotrac sets Wallace's "market value" at 3 years, $17M or $5.7M/yr. Quote
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 26, 2022 Posted January 26, 2022 30 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: He said he is looking to add to the DL The questions about the DL was, IMHO, one of the more interesting parts of the press conference. Beane was asked, considering the resources that have been put into the DL and the pass rush essentially did he feel that he'd gotten a good ROI? He pretty much said "not really". Said "some games and not others"; said consistently not as much as he wanted. Then said he'll always put resources into DL because he believes in building up front. I would have loved to hear some follow-up questions about if you put so many resources into it and didn't get the return you expected, how will you change that? Also, did anyone hear any questions about AJ Epenesa? I would have loved to hear some questions about him. 2 Quote
Mango Posted January 26, 2022 Posted January 26, 2022 2 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: you could be like the chiefs and pay like a $100M for Chris Jones, Frank Clark, Melvin Ingram, and others— and yet have Josh Allen completely and totally Shred them. With Allen and Mahomes, it doesn’t really matter much who you have out there playing D line. And yet the Chiefs have more space this year and next than Buffalo… Quote
Freddie's Dead Posted January 26, 2022 Posted January 26, 2022 1 hour ago, RyanC883 said: I just don't agree with this. We got gashed on the ground v. the Colts to the tune of 45 points. That mostly on the players. We failed to do anything against Jax--players. Coaching is def an issue, but if we had better players, esp. an impact player in the front 7 and a RB1, we would have been the 1 seed and the outcome is much different v. KC. You're going to have bad days and you can't beat everyone. Bottom line is we made the tournament and lost because McD stripped a gear. We're just going to disagree on this one. Quote
Justin C Posted January 26, 2022 Posted January 26, 2022 1 hour ago, RyanC883 said: great, more average additions to the D, and more average results and an early playoff exit. Sucks for Josh to have to watch that shi* show from the sidelines. Ask the Patriots how much spending big on free agency did for them this year. More often then not spending big in free agency does not work out. 2 1 Quote
Bob Chandler's Hands Posted January 26, 2022 Posted January 26, 2022 12 minutes ago, Mango said: And yet the Chiefs have more space this year and next than Buffalo… Technically correct but completely misleading. Buffalo's Top 51 cap space is $2.8M with 53 players under contract. Whereas KC's Top 51 cap space is $21.2M with only 38 players under contract. So to compare the two situations you'd need to add 13 more players to the Chiefs roster at $1.4M per player to make it equivalent. That's a whole bunch of replacement level free agents with a few decent FA's mixed in. Probably not 13 players better than the Bills bottom 13 already on the roster. 2 2 Quote
BuffaloBillyG Posted January 26, 2022 Posted January 26, 2022 1 hour ago, RyanC883 said: great, more average additions to the D, and more average results and an early playoff exit. Sucks for Josh to have to watch that shi* show from the sidelines. I'm not absolving the horrendous coaching at all. It's really both, personnel and coaching. If you hire Frazier, who only really rushes 4, you need a stud DE. And our strategy was to draft one and hope he was a day 1 stud. Mind boggling. Being "big spenders" in FA is fun for the fans. However, spending WISELY in FA is smarter. Finding players that fit your scheme and culture > Overpaying someone for production they had on another team, in another scheme and years prior just because they have a name fans recognize. 1 1 Quote
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