Greg Olson regrets he didn't sign with Buf. We should have 1st dibs on many FAs looking for a SB

[BADOLBILZ]

 

Josh, the HC and the organization he's built and the passion of the fan base.........it's probably the most college-like, passionate market to play in fan-wise..........these things will all be drawing factors for players who want to win and do it in a place that cares.

 

But mostly Josh.

 

Beast.

[Royale with Cheese]

52 minutes ago, Bferra13 said:

I just don't like either of those guys. Not angry. Easy to make up some bs after this game for listening. Portnoy said he's the first JA fan in the country bs. Olsen sucks and the Bills were lucky they didn't waste cap on his broke ass. Just two guys looking for some attention after our heartbreak.

How are they looking for attention being on the radio?  The host talks, asks questions and the guest answers.  Do you think Olsen is lying or something?

[SCBills]

2 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

Josh, the HC and the organization he's built and the passion of the fan base.........it's probably the most college-like, passionate market to play in fan-wise..........these things will all be drawing factors for players who want to win and do it in a place that cares.

 

But mostly Josh.

 

Beast.

Buffalo is now Josh Allen and Bills Mafia. 
 

It may be cold - but you get an elite QB, chance to compete for a title and the most insane fanbase in the NFL.  
 

I talk to people down here in the South who are college die-hards, but NFL casuals… they all love Josh Allen and Bills Mafia. 

[Bferra13]

9 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

How are they looking for attention being on the radio?  The host talks, asks questions and the guest answers.  Do you think Olsen is lying 

I dont care what Olsen says. Just happy we didn't waste the cap space on him. And it's not the radio it's Portnoys podcast (I'm assuming) and that guy is more full of shiz and full of himself than anyone. Bring on the FA's I guess. But we dodged a bullet there by trying to sign mr broke for 8 mil or watever.

[SCBills]

3 minutes ago, Bferra13 said:

I dont care what Olsen says. Just happy we didn't waste the cap space on him. And it's not the radio it's Portnoys podcast (I'm assuming) and that guy is more full of shiz and full of himself than anyone. Bring on the FA's I guess. But we dodged a bullet there by trying to sign mr broke for 8 mil or watever.

If you don’t stop complaining about this, we’re hiring Portnoy as the next OC. 

[billybrew1]

1 hour ago, JerseyBills said:

Agreed. But the point is we should be a landing spot for many top tier FAs

Compare this to 2016-17 , pretty amazing culture shift

I really don't know how much money individuals are willing to pass up to have a shot at the SB?

I guess we'd win most ties now (if the money was equal).

The Bills will be lucky to stay together. This, even though we need a premium pass rusher desperately.

In fact, you could make a good argument that we need two..... That's what makes the rams so difficult now, having two primo pass rushers.

Man, we had better hope Beane knows how to evaluate DL..... Our premium pick DL.... Two firsts, two seconds, and a third....

Ed Oliver, Greg Rousseau, Epenesa, Basham and Harrison, that's our DL right there. How much better can Groot, Boogie and AJ get now that they get a nice long rest before embarking on changing their bodies for the better and working on pass rushing moves individually and together. Work, work, work! I sure hope those three have the desire to be great. Maybe Bruce Smith can help?

I think the city of Buffalo would go absolutely bonkers if TheBills could even swing one elite pass rush specialist.  Probably would go nuts with a series of moves designed to be more aggressive on defense.... Do the Bills hit the DL yet again with their first round pick? I feel like if a DL drops, he is ours for sure. 
Is there an injured highly rated DL coming out this year?

[billybrew1]

I just saw the Bills will draft 25th this year! We got Tre White-at 27 so there is hope we can a probowler!

I think there is more pressure on the young DL than there will be on our draft picks. Look towards Epenesa, Groot and Basham for major help in 2022-23.....

[RyanC883]

2 hours ago, JerseyBills said:

Title says it all... I'm sure many guys would love a shot to play here and see what could be!! 

 

Little positivity for our broken hearts!

 

I love Motor and Hughes but just imagine adding a Thurman and Bruce to this team.

I'd like a Cordarrelle Patterson, Akheim Hicks and a Von Miller/Chandler Jones

Good luck to our opponents, they'll need it!

 

 

would be nice for Bean to actually peruse anyone esp at trade deadline.  Like we should have Von Miller. 

29 minutes ago, billybrew1 said:

I just saw the Bills will draft 25th this year! We got Tre White-at 27 so there is hope we can a probowler!

I think there is more pressure on the young DL than there will be on our draft picks. Look towards Epenesa, Groot and Basham for major help in 2022-23.....

 

Bean will blow it, it’s what he does.  Beyond Allen, his early picks are nada.  

[JerseyBills]

45 minutes ago, RyanC883 said:

 

would be nice for Bean to actually peruse anyone esp at trade deadline.  Like we should have Von Miller. 

 

Bean will blow it, it’s what he does.  Beyond Allen, his early picks are nada.  

Cmon man. That's not true. 

[Turk71]

1 hour ago, RyanC883 said:

 

would be nice for Bean to actually peruse anyone esp at trade deadline.  Like we should have Von Miller. 

 

Bean will blow it, it’s what he does.  Beyond Allen, his early picks are nada.  

I think Beane has had mixed results like any GM. Allen definitely makes up for a few bad picks.

 One pick that really bothered me though and had a huge effect on the last game was taking a 2nd DE in a row and passing on C/G Creed Humphrey in the 2nd round last draft. KC took him right after the Bills took Basham. He anchored their line all year and completed their amazing one year rebuild. Multiple outlets rated him #1 center in the league this year. The Bills had a chance to add one of the top interior lineman in the league, a position of great need, and let him fall to their biggest AFC obstacle whose oline was in shambles. If Humphrey was on the Bills line instead of KCs......

Nothing against Basham but another DE with that pick was a luxury and a wasted opportunity to add top talent to the o line and deny their rival the same.

 

 

 

 

 

[CorkScrewHill]

4 hours ago, Doc said:

 

Yeah but money will be the issue. 

I think that is the point … players took less money to play with Brady because they wanted to play with Brady and win. Money for a lot of these guys is the 

most important factor but if you take a few hundred thousand less but got to play with Brady … it was viewed by many as worth it. The Pats had players they shouldn’t have been able to get at the price they paid. That plus Brady and Belichick were the principle reasons they stayed on top for so long .. good thread @JerseyBills

[billybrew1]

3 hours ago, SCBills said:

Buffalo is now Josh Allen and Bills Mafia. 
 

It may be cold - but you get an elite QB, chance to compete for a title and the most insane fanbase in the NFL.  
 

I talk to people down here in the South who are college die-hards, but NFL casuals… they all love Josh Allen and Bills Mafia. 

They love Josh Allen here in California as well. Probably one of the most popular players in the whole NFL now.

I bet top five for sure.

 

And Buffalo has a lot more going for it than The Bills. A hell of a lot more including plentiful water and clean air, two things lacking where I live here in Rancho Cucamonga. And if you live in Buffalo (or anywhere)  you've got to make a practice of being thankful with what you have. Buffalo is on the only warm Great Lake besides. It is great for swimming and catching the tastiest fish, the walleye.

Buffalo has an awesome history, I think the common council or somebody ought to do more to make Buffalo's architecture more easily known about and accessible, it's gorgeous. Affordable education and housing are two more huge pluses. The Sabres will be watchable (on most nights) starting next year, imho....If not, the following year. IDK, we havta see how aggressive KA is in making the Sabres competitive now. Is it reasonable? Or is it better if we wait one more year. The offseason will be telling. I could go on and on about Buffalo, it is a great city with a football team. Every city has bad weather at times. Even San Diego now with global warming. Everything is being built with air now because the city needs it in the summer. Thirty years ago that wasn't the case. SD is also comically expensive....

 

Lets Go Buffalo!

[Buffalo_Stampede]

Antonio Brown feels the same way but won't admit it.

[ganesh]

4 hours ago, JerseyBills said:

Agreed. But the point is we should be a landing spot for many top tier FAs

Compare this to 2016-17 , pretty amazing culture shift

Can we get a Pass Rusher

3 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Antonio Brown feels the same way but won't admit it.

And so would LeVeon Bell

[Thurman#1]

We should have first dibs on many FAs?

 

I disagree. A few, yes. Guys like Olsen who's already $63M, and is near the end of his career, yeah.  But that's not a lot of guys.

 

There will be some, and that's good.

 

But for most it will be what it always is, who is willing to give more money.

 

And the Bills won't have much money to give next year.

 

 

[Thurman#1]

3 hours ago, RyanC883 said:

 

would be nice for Bean to actually peruse anyone esp at trade deadline.  Like we should have Von Miller. 

 

Bean will blow it, it’s what he does.  Beyond Allen, his early picks are nada.  

 

 

Yeah, sorry, but that's nonsense. Which we'll always get a lot of after a horrible loss like this. But still nonsense even if the emotion is pretty understandable.

 

He's been here for four drafts, meaning you can only be sure of a good evaluation on the first draft. The rest, it's just too early to know.

 

He's had four first-rounders, three of whom in Allen, Edmunds and Oliver are good to excellent picks. Rousseau it's too early to know, but looked good for a rookie.

 

He's had three second-rounders, none of whom had seen four years yet. Ford looks like a bad pick, though it's still barely possible he improves. Epenesa and Basham it's simply too early to know.

 

He's had five third-rounders, and for third-rounders he's done really well. Harrison Phillips looks like a very good pick, Singletary a good pick now that we have a functional OL, Knox excellent, Moss not good so far but simply too early to know. Spencer Brown looks like he's going to be a real bargain.

 

To sum up, nonsense.

 

 

Edited January 26, 2022 by Thurman#1

[mabden]

7 hours ago, JerseyBills said:

Title says it all... I'm sure many guys would love a shot to play here and see what could be!! 

 

Little positivity for our broken hearts!

 

I love Motor and Hughes but just imagine adding a Thurman and Bruce to this team.

I'd like a Cordarrelle Patterson, Akheim Hicks and a Von Miller/Chandler Jones

Good luck to our opponents, they'll need it!

Extended version.  You can tell Olson is getting a little choked up about the decision.  Wow

 

 

I was just thinking the same thing!

 

I think we all compare this Bills team to the Kelly teams and this team seems better in a lot of ways (Allen.)  Agree with the love for Singletary and Hughes, but with all due respect, they are not Thurman and Bruce. 

[JerseyBills]

2 minutes ago, mabden said:

 

I was just thinking the same thing!

 

I think we all compare this Bills team to the Kelly teams and this team seems better in a lot of ways (Allen.)  Agree with the love for Singletary and Hughes, but with all due respect, they are not Thurman and Bruce. 

Not even close. Just saying imagine having that caliber of rb and DE to this roster

[Buffalo Boy]

This is no surprise. I said it at the time, as did others that he would regret it. 

7 hours ago, Bferra13 said:

Pretty much two egotistical dbags talking some hindsight 

    You don’t know Olsen so I’ll give you a pass. He’s a totally cool, down to earth guy who LOVED playing football and hated losing.

    At the time, I SO wanted him here because I knew what a difference he could have made. Maybe not Gronk but pretty close. 

7 hours ago, Bferra13 said:

7 hours ago, Bferra13 said:

Edited January 26, 2022 by Buffalo Boy

[timekills17]

4 hours ago, Turk71 said:

I think Beane has had mixed results like any GM. Allen definitely makes up for a few bad picks.

 One pick that really bothered me though and had a huge effect on the last game was taking a 2nd DE in a row and passing on C/G Creed Humphrey in the 2nd round last draft. KC took him right after the Bills took Basham. He anchored their line all year and completed their amazing one year rebuild. Multiple outlets rated him #1 center in the league this year. The Bills had a chance to add one of the top interior lineman in the league, a position of great need, and let him fall to their biggest AFC obstacle whose oline was in shambles. If Humphrey was on the Bills line instead of KCs......

Nothing against Basham but another DE with that pick was a luxury and a wasted opportunity to add top talent to the o line and deny their rival the same.

 

 

Each time I hear this, I feel like we're using either revisionist history or significant "hindsight being 20/20."

-After the 2019 season, the Bills #1 need was improving scoring; an improved offense. The Bills tried to fix this by bringing in the best FA WR on the market - in exchange for our 1st round pick. Whether you agree with the cost or not, can't argue that 2020 and 2021 the offense was SIGNIFCANTLY improved.

-After the 2020 season, the Bills determined from the loss to KC that they needed to improve the pass rush. Our offensive line wasn't #1, but it was settled with AT THE TIME a good RT in Williams, and some high potential in guards including starters and practice squad. So they doubled down on their biggest area of need. You don't pick a player you don't think you need just to keep another team from getting him. Did we need a (potential C/)G over a second shot at a good pass-rushing DL? That's certainly an argument you could make. But I don't fault Beane for going after what was our weakness rather than getting what AT THE TIME would have been a position of significantly lower need.

-- And P.S. the Bills led the league in QB pressures this year, so you could argue he succeeded again in greatly improving the critical problem. 

 

Let me ask this - after how our OL and RB ended the year, what position do you think would have made, or will make, the biggest difference in another KC matchup?

I'd still say a DL rusher that scares opponents' OC and QB over OL. Immediacy bias says a good CB, but I'd have to see what medical says about White.