The 1-10 defense

[Buffalo Barbarian]

Since we are still upset over this i thought i would discuss how i would have defended the Chiefs in the last 13 seconds.

 

The ONE would be an athletic DE or LB to spy on Mahomes and try to bat down the ball if possible and tackle him if takes off. He would be about 3 yard off the ball and i would use DE Greg Rousseau for this spot.

 

The other TEN guys would be LBs and DBs double covering the 5 offense weapons. One guy would be pressing the Receiver on the line and the other guy 5 yards back and the two would be in man coverage on that one guy. I would have Milano pressing Kelce backed up by a DB.  For Hill if hes in the back field then one bumps him when he come through the line and then the two best cover dbs on him.

 

This would make it very hard for Mahomes to find an open receiver and if he takes off then you have burned a ton clock which is a major goal of this defense along with making it very difficult to complete a pass.

[Patrick Duffy]

For me, I would have played them them no different the last 13 secs than how they were the whole time. Prevent the big 20+ yard gain. Keep them around the 10 yard range like they did basically entire game

 

 

Edited January 25, 2022 by Sheneneh Jenkins

[shane nelson]

sounds totally crazy especially with Mahomes legs, however it does have some merit.  Rush one, have one as a spy and the others in coverage.  Odds would be that KC burns a time one when they see the formation.  

[Buffalo Barbarian]

7 minutes ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said:

For me, I would have played them them no different the last 13 secs than how they were the whole time. Prevent the big 20+ yard gain. Keep them around the 10 yard range like they did basically entire game

 

 

 

Playing soft didn't help thats for sure but i do think my suggestion would make it harder knowing that they have to pass.

 

 

Edited January 25, 2022 by Buffalo Barbarian

[Big Turk]

Just now, shane nelson said:

sounds totally crazy especially with Mahomes legs, however it does have some merit.  Rush one, have one as a spy and the others in coverage.  Odds would be that KC burns a time one when they see the formation.  

 

If Mahomes runs he is going to run out of time, it would have had to be a throw

[shane nelson]

PS-anything would have been better than Sunday's coverage, especially on the 2nd play

 

[Buffalo Barbarian]

1 minute ago, shane nelson said:

sounds totally crazy especially with Mahomes legs, however it does have some merit.  Rush one, have one as a spy and the others in coverage.  Odds would be that KC burns a time one when they see the formation.  

 

I wouldn't even rush one, need that guy for double coverage, just one spy while Mahomes is searching in the pocket.

 

 

1 minute ago, shane nelson said:

PS-anything would have been better than Sunday's coverage, especially on the 2nd play

 

 

Except for Wrecks Ryan defense 😜😜

 

 

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

Basically anything other than what we did would have worked. Still feel nauseous about it all.

 

I think McDermott and/or Frazier we’re trying to outsmart themselves. The only thing I can think of is that they were certain the Chiefs were trying to get a 30 yard completion.
 

But even if we give them a pass for the first downplay to Hill the subsequent play to Kelce and the defensive strategy there is inexplicable.

 

 

[BBills_88]

I would have rushed 3 ED Harrison, Rousseau  had 2 LB's (1 within 7 yards to shadow Mahomes other in coverage) and 4 DB (Neal would have been on Kelce as he has the size and speed)  & 2 safeties.

Edited January 25, 2022 by BBills_88

[stevestojan]

 Bump Kelce. Or tackle him at the line; literally tackle him. Take the penalty.  Hell, my dog knew where the ball was going. 
 

But outside of that option, I agree with 1-10 in principle, but even three down lineman would have been better. And why were we protecting the sidelines so closely when they had two timeouts? 
 

Oh well, it’s two days in the past now. I’m over it. I had my temper tantrum and now it’s on to looking forward to getting rid of Edmunds and then the draft. Another “maybe next year” to add to the collection. 

[Dr.Sack]

Mahomes might run a 4.8. He’s also not very shifty when he gets that big belly moving. What would concern me is he’d identify the coverage and likely have a wall of blockers in his OL to road grade Rousseau and take on the next line of defenders IE Milano, Edmunds, Neal, Johnson. 
 

I figure he picks up anywhere from 15 yards and likely slides while calling a TO. No doubt that play wouldn’t have left as much time on the clock as Mahomes would have surveyed then decided to run. The hesitation. Factor even if 1-1.5 seconds would have been our huge advantage. 
 

It’s a forever what-if scenario that will live on for many years.

 

I’ve advocated since Sunday night we should have went for 2. Does Allen & Co convert? What play would we have run? A gadget play or simply get Allen on the move and smash forward for 2 yards? 

[bmur66]

When they take a timeout are you going to line up the same way?

[Patrick Duffy]

10 minutes ago, shane nelson said:

PS-anything would have been better than Sunday's coverage, especially on the 2nd play

 

You would think they would've done something after the 1st play. The 1st play is what alerted them to how Bills would defend it. Kelce said it himself mic'ed up in that other thread..."they gona defend like that middle gona be wide open" something along those lines.

[Buffalo Barbarian]

5 minutes ago, BBills_88 said:

I would have rushed 3 ED Harrison, Rousseau  had 2 LB's (1 within 7 yards to shadow Mahomes other in coverage) and 4 DB (Neal would have been on Kelce as he has the size and speed)  & 2 safeties.

 

why rush him then he takes off and runs for 20-30 yds anyway. Just one spy and double everyone else. Having two defenders on one receiver would make it very tough to find an open receiver let alone complete the pass.

 

 

[shane nelson]

17 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

If Mahomes runs he is going to run out of time, it would have had to be a throw

i thought had two time outs with 13 seconds left.  But you are probably right

 

[BuffaloMatt]

Their drive before, they went 75 yard in five plays to take the lead. Before that the huge punt return and we were fortunate to hold them to 3 points. It is ok to say they are a damn good team, we had our shot, we were fortunate and got some breaks to get back in that game and it just didn't pan out.  I hate that they lost and it's easy to try and find blame to make us feel better.

 

Josh with two time outs and 13 seconds gets Bass a shot. I truly believe that. 

 

[LABILLBACKER]

17 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

If Mahomes runs he is going to run out of time, it would have had to be a throw

You're right and if we had not failed the pop up kickoff, they would've only had time for 1 hail mary in fg range.

[Buffalo Barbarian]

3 minutes ago, bmur66 said:

When they take a timeout are you going to line up the same way?

Yep

Plus they will have very little time left to call timeout. This is a pass defense only because they had to pass and if for some dumb reason if they do run they are burning a ton of clock and all the guys back would just come up to stop the run like they normally do.

 

 

[Success]

Live & learn.  I was thinking just rush 2, or 3 tops.  

 

Certainly, 4 was too many.  You could have put at least ONE guy more shallow than the rest, or helping on Kelce.

 

 

[Buffalo Barbarian]

1 minute ago, BuffaloMatt said:

Their drive before, they went 75 yard in five plays to take the lead. Before that the huge punt return and we were fortunate to hold them to 3 points. It is ok to say they are a damn good team, we had our shot, we were fortunate and got some breaks to get back in that game and it just didn't pan out.  I hate that they lost and it's easy to try and find blame to make us feel better.

 

Josh with two time outs and 13 seconds gets Bass a shot. I truly believe that. 

 

 

Sure but the coaches clearly screwed up and they know it and is why McDermott wont explain why because he doesn't throw guys under the bus. I dont need to comfort myself with we played a great and its ok. Its not ok and they need to take responsibility, which im sure they did in house, but we won this game and is inexcusable that we lost.