Big Blitz Posted January 25, 2022 Posted January 25, 2022 25 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Seems like his players called the play though. Mahomes and Kelce. That's 2 guys adjusting to coverage. That's their job Its on the f...ing head coach to decide the most important Special Teams call in Bills history. "Pop it up, squibb, or kick deep....what do you want coach??" You telling me McD said: "Your call." Is this what happened? I didn't listen yet. I'm sick. Still sick. I need to hear he and he alone made the call. Not leave it to the ST coach or Bass. If he left it to the ST coach that's just as bad as McD telling Bass to kick it out. If Bass f...ed up Bass needs to say so. 1 2 Quote
mannc Posted January 25, 2022 Posted January 25, 2022 Just now, Wayne Cubed said: Or Farwell. All he's saying is they didn't execute. That doesn't necessarily mean it was Bass. Could be the plan was to Squib, Farwell didn't relay it correctly. Failed execution. Then he should say that…it’s McDermott’s decision and if it didn’t get communicated properly it is his fault. 1 1 Quote
Wayne Cubed Posted January 25, 2022 Posted January 25, 2022 Just now, mannc said: Then he should say that…it’s McDermott’s decision and if it didn’t get communicated properly it is his fault. Why? He doesn't have to. He's being ambigous while giving an answer and not throwing any specific person under the bus. What exactly will it do for him to admit it was Farwall or Bass fault? 2 1 Quote
BananaB Posted January 25, 2022 Posted January 25, 2022 Defense sucked all game to be honest. Don’t care who ya play it’s better then that. It’s like Talley said about the first Super Bowl loss, the kick determined the outcome but everyone made mistakes throughout the game. That’s was our D Sunday. 4 4 Quote
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 25, 2022 Posted January 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: That's 2 guys adjusting to coverage. That's their job Its on the f...ing head coach to decide the most important Special Teams call in Bills history. "Pop it up, squibb, or kick deep....what do you want coach??" You telling me McD said: "Your call." Is this what happened? I didn't listen yet. I'm sick. Still sick. I need to hear he and he alone made the call. Not leave it to the ST coach or Bass. If he left it to the ST coach that's just as bad as McD telling Bass to kick it out. If Bass f...ed up Bass needs to say so. No, they ran their own play. It'll be like Levi Wallace understanding there's absolutely no one else to his side and he has a safety deep maybe he should play Kelce a little tighter. Quote
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 25, 2022 Posted January 25, 2022 13 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: Given how gassed the D was, with 20/20 retrovision, we probably should have gone for two after the last TD. Four point lead likely safe and the risk/reward against a tired Chief's D flips the burden. If you miss, Bills play a much more aggressive D because they know a FG can beat them. And if we didn't get those 2 points and a FG won it, we'd have second guessing on that point for days - just as we had second-guessing for days on the decision to go for it vs. kick a FG that resulted in the loss to the Titans. 2 Quote
Cheektowaga Chad Posted January 25, 2022 Posted January 25, 2022 12 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: Given how gassed the D was, with 20/20 retrovision, we probably should have gone for two after the last TD. Four point lead likely safe and the risk/reward against a tired Chief's D flips the burden. If you miss, Bills play a much more aggressive D because they know a FG can beat them. Agree. Thinking back on it. I think you go for 2. You need 2 yards to completely ice the game with 13 seconds left Going for 2 would have kept the teams mind set in an aggressive mode rather than kicking the extra point and trying to hold on 2 Quote
mannc Posted January 25, 2022 Posted January 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Wayne Cubed said: Why? He doesn't have to. He's being ambigous while giving an answer and not throwing any specific person under the bus. What exactly will it do for him to admit it was Farwall or Bass fault? I suppose you’re right…I just don’t believe it was Farwell or Bass that screwed up…you had plenty of time to clearly communicate the decision, which was a no-brainer anyway… Quote
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 25, 2022 Posted January 25, 2022 13 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said: I hope someone tapped his nose with a newspaper and said bad Sean bad. I'm not sure what's worse at this point: The fact that the Bills lost in heartbreaking fashion at the very end of the game, or watching so many of my fellow Bills fans and fellow TBDians reveal themselves to be absolute tools. 2 1 3 3 1 2 Quote
Wayne Cubed Posted January 25, 2022 Posted January 25, 2022 Just now, mannc said: I suppose you’re right…I just don’t believe it was Farwell or Bass that screwed up…you had plenty of time to clearly communicate the decision, which was a no-brainer anyway… Who knows and at the end of the day he's at least admiting it's an f up and he is putting it on himself. He's saying execution comes down to him. That's fine with me. At least he's not up there saying, gee I didn't think about squib kicking... it never crossed my mind etc. 1 Quote
Big Blitz Posted January 25, 2022 Posted January 25, 2022 Just now, Buffalo_Stampede said: No, they ran their own play. It'll be like Levi Wallace understanding there's absolutely no one else to his side and he has a safety deep maybe he should play Kelce a little tighter. What are you saying? The kicker and ST coach changing the head coaches kick call is on par with a QB and WR making an adjustment (which they discussed during the timeout) on a route? Quote
RalphWilson'sNewWar Posted January 25, 2022 Posted January 25, 2022 (edited) When Coach McDermott says, “I hope you can appreciate why I won’t go into details about who did what in the final 00:13” oh to live in a real world where a fan…errrrr “journalist” would simply say, “no. We can’t appreciate it.” sigh…too bad…but when you have journalists (fans) who feel they are somehow part of the team…just don’t get that. Edited January 25, 2022 by RalphWilson'sNewWar 1 1 Quote
Motorin' Posted January 25, 2022 Posted January 25, 2022 22 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I think it's shameful how fans turn coat and trash the coaches "anyone would be better" blah blah All of a sudden everyone's a defensive football genius. I know you're not saying that here, but it's right in line with people who are. He's accepted responsibility at least a dozen times at this point "execution....starts with me". If McDermott stood on the steps of City Hall and said "I publicly apologize to the city of St Louis, the fans of the Bills, and the Buffalo Bills" you guys would be saying "yeah, but he didn't do it wearing a hair shirt and whipping himself" I don't want him to apologize. I want him to learn from this experience, and do better. Lol, it would be kind of odd if he stood on the steps of Buffalo city hall and apologized to the city of St. Louis. 1 3 Quote
billsfan1959 Posted January 25, 2022 Posted January 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I'm not sure what's worse at this point: The fact that the Bills lost in heartbreaking fashion at the very end of the game, or watching so many of my fellow Bills fans and fellow TBDians reveal themselves to be absolute tools. The latter.... 1 Quote
Billsfan1972 Posted January 25, 2022 Posted January 25, 2022 8 minutes ago, MJS said: I don't believe he did. I just watched the kick again. He certainly did. Do I need to rewind & see all of his kickoffs? He has a 60 yard FG leg, 60 yards is to the 5 yard line. Not an argument. 1 Quote
Alphadawg7 Posted January 25, 2022 Posted January 25, 2022 59 minutes ago, HomeskillitMoorman said: I was hoping this was going to come with his resignation Weird, we were all hoping the same from you when you posted this 1 2 1 Quote
Motorin' Posted January 25, 2022 Posted January 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I'm not sure what's worse at this point: The fact that the Bills lost in heartbreaking fashion at the very end of the game, or watching so many of my fellow Bills fans and fellow TBDians reveal themselves to be absolute tools. I mean, have you ever been in the game day thread? Not a shocker! 1 Quote
MJS Posted January 25, 2022 Posted January 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Billsfan1972 said: I just watched the kick again. He certainly did. Do I need to rewind & see all of his kickoffs? He has a 60 yard FG leg, 60 yards is to the 5 yard line. Not an argument. This is so easy. I just went and watched it again and I don't think that he did. See how opinions work? 1 Quote
mannc Posted January 25, 2022 Posted January 25, 2022 6 minutes ago, Cheektowaga Chad said: Agree. Thinking back on it. I think you go for 2. You need 2 yards to completely ice the game with 13 seconds left Going for 2 would have kept the teams mind set in an aggressive mode rather than kicking the extra point and trying to hold on Something tells me if the Chiefs had needed a TD in the last 13 seconds, they would have gotten one….just give it to Hill three times in a row and he’ll probably bust one… 1 Quote
Dr. Who Posted January 25, 2022 Posted January 25, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: And if we didn't get those 2 points and a FG won it, we'd have second guessing on that point for days - just as we had second-guessing for days on the decision to go for it vs. kick a FG that resulted in the loss to the Titans. Correct, that's why I said retrovision 20/20. We know the tactic we chose didn't work. Of course this is an impossible hypothetical, I wasn't attempting to say otherwise. (I do think the counterhistory option shows aggression. Fortune really does often favor the bold.) Edited January 25, 2022 by Dr. Who 1 Quote
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