McDermott end of season press conference

[Billsatlastin2018]

26 minutes ago, K-9 said:

Please explain how you eliminate 6-7 seconds with a squib kick? I see 1 or 2 at the most before the ref blows his whistle once the receiver immediately gave himself up, which he would have been told to do by the KC coaches. And the chances are really good that the ball would have been fielded in better field position as you pointed out. 

IF you kick it properly, even only to the 15, you are not giving yourself up- there. It’s a time - distance calculation. And the rule is, assuming that’s done properly and not a short Fair Catch FUBAR, the rule is you must give up- by picking the ball up and then falling to the ground.

 

Meaning? Minimum 3-4 ticks.

 

Again, the only ally is reduced time to create a Max 2 play situation for the Chiefs!

 

Kicking without reducing time is virtually 100% incorrect for this situation.

 

A HC MUST know that, have had the Kicker work on it during the season and execute the plan at exactly the correct game time- which was right then!

[ColoradoBills]

1 hour ago, SCBills said:

 

I, personally, would like McDermott to do the GoT walk of shame through the city of Buffalo for losing us that game.  

 

LOL, I had the clip below pictured as I read your post.  Reading some of these hot takes today makes me feel better.

I was so disappointed the last 2 days but it's over for me.  Time to dust myself off and look forward not back.

 

I guess some fans want McDermott and the coaches holding their playbooks walking through downtown Buffalo like this...........

LOL.

 

 

[LABILLBACKER]

34 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Hope.  Because otherwise I’d begin to worry that McDermott truly won’t be the guy to get us over the top.  
 

We’ve employed the same style of defense the past 3 years, and every time it’s come up very small in the biggest moments.   
 

And this is all with Allen on a rookie deal and the ability to spend on a veteran laden DL of guys they wanted.  

We need better pass rushers. We need to apply a more aggressive style of defense then Frazier likes.  If Leslie leaves, which I hope he does, sign Fangio immediately. We should've not only jamed both Kelce & Hill on those 2 plays but we should have doubled them both. Force Pringle or Hardman to beat you. Rush 3, drop 8 dbs. And stop trying to seal the sidelines when you know they have 3 timeouts. 

[Billsatlastin2018]

5 minutes ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said:

Just a question, because imo it was defensive play calling and not so much execution....the entire game Bills D played to prevent KC from getting big plays which they did for most part. 

 

So why go away from that with 13 secs left and more importantly with 3 time outs? Going with that call allowed KC 2 quick 20+ yard plays 

Because of the lack of TIME, TIME, TIME! 
 

You must run time off with minimal yard damage. Meaning- hold, swipe, hook, tackle Kelce & Hill to run through 6 seconds.

[Billsfan1972]

51 minutes ago, K-9 said:

Please explain how you eliminate 6-7 seconds with a squib kick? I see 1 or 2 at the most before the ref blows his whistle once the receiver immediately gave himself up, which he would have been told to do by the KC coaches. And the chances are really good that the ball would have been fielded in better field position as you pointed out. 

A good pop up or squib kick goes to the 5-10 yard line.  Squibs are often muffed & pop up kicks usually means defense is downfield to defend.

 

You want to know how many short kicks (to the 5-15 yard line) were returned for TD's in 2021????

 

0!!!!!!! 

 

Kicks returned were all line drives for the goal line 98-102 yards.

 

Bass was so proficient that the Bills were third in Kickoff defense & the longest return was 31 yards.  That would have eaten 7 seconds minimum.  

 

So let's say Bass does kick it to the 5, best return is to the 36 & 7 seconds off the clock.  That gives them one play to get to the 32 or another 32 yards in 6 seconds.

 

If an average return they are at the 22-25 yard line and 7-8 seconds left.

 

The math is simple.

Edited January 25, 2022 by Billsfan1972

[Patrick Duffy]

8 minutes ago, Billsatlastin2018 said:

Because of the lack of TIME, TIME, TIME! 
 

You must run time off with minimal yard damage. Meaning- hold, swipe, hook, tackle Kelce & Hill to run through 6 seconds.

Makes no sense...That's sole reason I pointed out the 3 time outs they had. That's why you keep playing same D. Not to mention who the QB was. They would have likely had minimal yards damage if they stuck with the same Defensive play calling they did entire game. Bills played D to prevent big yardage plays. 

[Billsatlastin2018]

11 minutes ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said:

Makes no sense...That's sole reason I pointed out the 3 time outs they had. That's why you keep playing same D. Not to mention who the QB was. They would have likely had minimal yards damage if they stuck with the same Defensive play calling they did entire game. Bills played D to prevent big yardage plays. 

TOs with 13 seconds don’t matter at all!

 

There are only 3 plays max. That’s why you burn one on the KO and break it down to Max two. Each of which takes about 5 seconds on any Pass play, regardless of whether you Hold- which you must.

 

This isn’t Quantum Physics! It’s eliminating 13 ticks as creatively as possible.

[Patrick Duffy]

8 minutes ago, Billsatlastin2018 said:

TOs with 13 seconds don’t matter at all!

 

There are only 3 plays max. That’s why you burn one on the KO and break it down to Max two. Each of which takes about 5 seconds on any Pass play, regardless of whether you Hold- which you must.

 

This isn’t Quantum Physics! It’s eliminating 13 ticks as creatively as possible.

It does matter because they used 2 of them. That's why I said they should have keep with the same D they played all game. That way likely would have kept KC at gaining 8-12 yards in those 2 plays using their time outs  instead of them gaining 20+ yards using time outs. See what I'm saying? 

 

Instead they changed Defensive play call to prevent and everyone fell too far back thus giving up 2 BIG plays in a row. Entire premise of Bills D was to eliminate KC from making big plays. They picked a hell of a time to go away from that.

Edited January 25, 2022 by Sheneneh Jenkins

[Big Blitz]

Everything literally everything about my initial reaction Sunday night was because deep down I know the head coach who I personally love and would run thru a brick wall thru myself......a guy that turned everything around with this franchise and has given us the first Bills team in a generation that is a serious contender; may have not only cost us a once in a lifetime chance at a Super Bowl; he may have squandered all that has been accomplished by committing the most egregious coaching meltdown in history.  

 

A meltdown that cost (for now) Josh Allen and the Bills from becoming THE story in all of sports and Allen as the best QB in the game.  The greatest game ever.  We had it. I have no comp to what happened.  There is none.  

 

Some of that is there......but it's not like what could have been had we won..

 

Convince me he recovers from this.  He may very well lose the locker room (MAY).  It's very possible.  This choke will impact everything he does; every game plan, every impact call, all of it.  And it puts him under a different kind of pressure and spotlight now that I absolutely hate that is there.  Even the "all is well don't overreact crowd" knows it.  

 

I'm still at a loss.  My hope is the team rallies around it.  Does that sound positive enough?  But big changes are coming and a real schedule.  They better move heaven and earth to get better legit better everywhere this off season.  The most important of McDs career.   

[BillMafia716ix]

The presser pissed me off. A bunch of cliche answers. I just wanted him to get up there and admit he ***** up. Would of made me feel better about it. 
 

Blaming it on execution was such a cop out answer. They put the players in awful position. 

[BuffaloRebound]

9 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

Everything literally everything about my initial reaction Sunday night was because deep down I know the head coach who I personally love and would run thru a brick wall thru myself......a guy that turned everything around with this franchise and has given us the first Bills team in a generation that is a serious contender; may have not only cost us a once in a lifetime chance at a Super Bowl; he may have squandered all that has been accomplished by committing the most egregious coaching meltdown in history.  

 

A meltdown that cost (for now) Josh Allen and the Bills from becoming THE story in all of sports and Allen as the best QB in the game.  The greatest game ever.  We had it. I have no comp to what happened.  There is none.  

 

Some of that is there......but it's not like what could have been had we won..

 

Convince me he recovers from this.  He may very well lose the locker room (MAY).  It's very possible.  This choke will impact everything he does; every game plan, every impact call, all of it.  And it puts him under a different kind of pressure and spotlight now that I absolutely hate that is there.  Even the "all is well don't overreact crowd" knows it.  

 

I'm still at a loss.  My hope is the team rallies around it.  Does that sound positive enough?  But big changes are coming and a real schedule.  They better move heaven and earth to get better legit better everywhere this off season.  The most important of McDs career.   

Fabulous post.  100% accurate.  The only positive that will come out of this is if it lights a fire under McBeane and they move heaven and earth to field a team that can’t be denied.  

[jlgarsh]

6 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

If it was thought about then why not just do it?

[K-9]

1 hour ago, Billsatlastin2018 said:

IF you kick it properly, even only to the 15, you are not giving yourself up- there. It’s a time - distance calculation. And the rule is, assuming that’s done properly and not a short Fair Catch FUBAR, the rule is you must give up- by picking the ball up and then falling to the ground.

 

Meaning? Minimum 3-4 ticks.

 

Again, the only ally is reduced time to create a Max 2 play situation for the Chiefs!

 

Kicking without reducing time is virtually 100% incorrect for this situation.

 

A HC MUST know that, have had the Kicker work on it during the season and execute the plan at exactly the correct game time- which was right then!

I understand the rule and as soon as the player fields it and stays down, the whistle is blown. I don’t see how that takes a ref 3-4 seconds. And a squib kick from the 35 down to the 15 is one helluva kick; not a sure thing at all. Although I think Bass has the skill to pull it off. 
 

I agree entirely that the time element is the most critical. And so is the distance they had to travel. McD screwed the pooch by playing defense like KC didn’t have three timeouts. Because they had those timeouts, I was in favor of making them go the max distance possible. I think that would have been best achieved by having them fair catch a kick inside the 10. 
 

Reasonable minds can disagree on the strategy, but three timeouts was gonna give KC three plays regardless, imo.
 

 

[jlgarsh]

5 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

That's 2 guys adjusting to coverage.  That's their job

 

 

Its on the f...ing head coach to decide the most important Special Teams call in Bills history. 

 

"Pop it up, squibb, or kick deep....what do you want coach??"

 

You telling me McD said:  "Your call."

 

Is this what happened?  I didn't listen yet.

 

 

I'm sick.  Still sick.   

 

I need to hear he and he alone made the call.  Not leave it to the ST coach or Bass.  If he left it to the ST coach that's just as bad as McD telling Bass to kick it out.  

 

If Bass f...ed up Bass needs to say so.  

The whole calling the defensive TO screwed the team. Make them run a play without calling a TO just to get back in the same exact formation. It's harder to adjust on the fly for the O without giving them extra time. 

[jlgarsh]

5 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

And if we didn't get those 2 points and a FG won it, we'd have second guessing on that point for days - just as we had second-guessing for days on the decision to go for it vs. kick a FG that resulted in the loss to the Titans.

Going for it vs the Titans was the right decision. Running behind the left side of the line was the issue. Josh has like a 90% success rate on 3rd and 4th and short in the red zone as long as he rolls out. The sneak to the Titans best DL player was the wrong call

[K-9]

1 hour ago, Billsfan1972 said:

A good pop up or squib kick goes to the 5-10 yard line.  Squibs are often muffed & pop up kicks usually means defense is downfield to defend.

 

You want to know how many short kicks (to the 5-15 yard line) were returned for TD's in 2021????

 

0!!!!!!! 

 

Kicks returned were all line drives for the goal line 98-102 yards.

 

Bass was so proficient that the Bills were third in Kickoff defense & the longest return was 31 yards.  That would have eaten 7 seconds minimum.  

 

So let's say Bass does kick it to the 5, best return is to the 36 & 7 seconds off the clock.  That gives them one play to get to the 32 or another 32 yards in 6 seconds.

 

If an average return they are at the 22-25 yard line and 7-8 seconds left.

 

The math is simple.

That’s why I’ve said several times the right kick would have been a pop up inside the 10 to force them to go the maximum distance. 
 

There would be no return regardless. KC was also aware of the critical time element. A pop up kick would have been fair caught and a squib fielded and immediately downed which, again, would have burned 1 or 2 seconds max before the ref blew the play dead.

[Billsatlastin2018]

31 minutes ago, K-9 said:

I understand the rule and as soon as the player fields it and stays down, the whistle is blown. I don’t see how that takes a ref 3-4 seconds. And a squib kick from the 35 down to the 15 is one helluva kick; not a sure thing at all. Although I think Bass has the skill to pull it off. 
 

I agree entirely that the time element is the most critical. And so is the distance they had to travel. McD screwed the pooch by playing defense like KC didn’t have three timeouts. Because they had those timeouts, I was in favor of making them go the max distance possible. I think that would have been best achieved by having them fair catch a kick inside the 10. 
 

Reasonable minds can disagree on the strategy, but three timeouts was gonna give KC three plays regardless, imo.
 

 

The rule is this. 
 

Rule 7 Section 4 Article 1 (a): How to give yourself up 

 

An official shall declare dead ball and the down ended:

(a) when a runner declares himself down by falling to the ground and makes no effort to advance.

 

It takes IMMEDIATE comprehension by the player to scoop up the ball properly, with no bobbling (which they must do in the field of play) and then immediately heading to the ground to show you’re not advancing. IMHO, that will take 3 seconds, for sure. 
 

That then leaves 10 seconds to go, from say Max- the 30- 35. Only 2 plays left then to get to the Bills 35 minimum. Regardless of the TOs, it simply takes 5-6 seconds to get down the field and hit the ground on a Pass play. 

 

Here’s one more factor. After FUBARing everything.why didn’t Bills defenders keep Kelce UP for 3 more tix to run it out? THAT is what I was screaming then!

Edited January 25, 2022 by Billsatlastin2018

[K-9]

1 hour ago, Billsatlastin2018 said:

The rule is this. 
 

Rule 7 Section 4 Article 1 (a): How to give yourself up 

 

An official shall declare dead ball and the down ended:

(a) when a runner declares himself down by falling to the ground and makes no effort to advance.

 

It takes IMMEDIATE comprehension by the player to scoop up the ball properly, with no bobbling (which they must do in the field of play) and then immediately heading to the ground to show you’re not advancing. IMHO, that will take 3 seconds, for sure. 
 

That then leaves 10 seconds to go, from say Max- the 30- 35. Only 2 plays left then to get to the Bills 35 minimum. Regardless of the TOs, it simply takes 5-6 seconds to get down the field and hit the ground on a Pass play. 

 

Here’s one more factor. After FUBARing everything.why didn’t Bills defenders keep Kelce UP for 3 more tix to run it out? THAT is what I was screaming then!

Haven’t we all seen numerous fielded squib kicks immediately downed and the play whistled dead in the past? 1-2 seconds, TOPS. IMO, it should have been a pop up with KC fair catching inside the 10. I have nothing else to say on the matter. 
 

Agree entirely with the defensive calls with 13 seconds to go and KC with timeouts to utilize the entire field. Why McD and Frazier chose not to defend the entire field is beyond me and will leave them open to second guessing about it forever. Given how they screwed the pooch defensively in that situation, I wonder if a different kick, squib or pop up, would have made a difference anyway. 

[Sargent Hulka]

McDermott, or Frazier, need to commit Seppuku for their dishonorable failure to the Mafia. Failure is not an option!

[Toyo321]

8 hours ago, Buffalo Boy said:

“ We pride ourselves in detail and being great in situational football.”

 

That is the biggest kick in the gut right there. Shameful pride. 

Goes to show you that he is not a situational coach, at all.   Andy Reid has every situation addressed and it always shows.  The end of that game was proof of this.