Tim Tindale Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 1 hour ago, tenderland said: Cleveland loss was due to a poor play by a player who was run out of town. Yesterday was caused by ineffective coaching that will be here for the foreseeable future That’s not what everyone was saying then. It was the ‘Bickering Bills’ year and people thought Marv lost the locker room, with some players mailing it in in Cleveland. The difference is that there wasn’t social media and 24-7 sports news turning the volume up on 11 in the aftermath like today. What I remember about that game is that Thurman and Kelly were unstoppable, and I kept thinking these guys have to be “The Ones” that take us there. The OP is definitely onto something, in my view. That 1988-1989 journey of learning how to win, learning to be the hunted, learning how to impose your will - feels analogous to the 2020-2021 experience. The Josh Allen I saw the last month looks like another level, a la Kelly around that same timeframe. 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Stonada Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 I love this post, OP. Everyone says 2021 has nothing to do with 1989. But the analogy works well. Josh last year was elite, but in two games against the best (KC), he underwhelmed. This year he played lights out, calmly, in both KC games. That’s incredible growth. I see us in the Super Bowl multiple times in the next five seasons. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
out Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Tim Tindale said: That’s not what everyone was saying then. It was the ‘Bickering Bills’ year and people thought Marv lost the locker room, with some players mailing it in in Cleveland. The difference is that there wasn’t social media and 24-7 sports news turning the volume up on 11 in the aftermath like today. What I remember about that game is that Thurman and Kelly were unstoppable, and I kept thinking these guys have to be “The Ones” that take us there. The OP is definitely onto something, in my view. That 1988-1989 journey of learning how to win, learning to be the hunted, learning how to impose your will - feels analogous to the 2020-2021 experience. The Josh Allen I saw the last month looks like another level, a la Kelly around that same timeframe. This is GREAT response However the bills did have Bruce Smith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted January 25, 2022 Author Share Posted January 25, 2022 22 minutes ago, tenderland said: This is GREAT response However the bills did have Bruce Smith Another fair point. And one I thought of when I started the thread. In the flip side, this iteration of the Bills has Josh Allen. Kelly was great, but this kid is the best QB the franchise has ever seen. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Tindale Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 1 hour ago, SectionC3 said: Another fair point. And one I thought of when I started the thread. In the flip side, this iteration of the Bills has Josh Allen. Kelly was great, but this kid is the best QB the franchise has ever seen. They had Bruce, but another thing people don’t remember about the 1988-1989 seasons. This was circulating. That 1989 year was one thing after another: https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1989-01-11-sp-260-story.html?_amp=true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted January 25, 2022 Author Share Posted January 25, 2022 10 hours ago, Tim Tindale said: They had Bruce, but another thing people don’t remember about the 1988-1989 seasons. This was circulating. That 1989 year was one thing after another: https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1989-01-11-sp-260-story.html?_amp=true It was. Kind of like this year, with all of the fires in social media. Not quite the same, but close. Bottom line for this year is that the last game should have been played in Buffalo. But we screwed up the Titans game, the Steelers game, and the Jags game. Frankly a lot of where we are now falls on McD. Not for strategy at the end of the Chiefs game (it’s debatable, but the chiefs screwed a lot of stuff up too in that game and we never should have been in position to win with 13 seconds remaining). But for the body of work this year. The team itself lacked that killer instinct. Sort of like 1989. We are in the cusp of something great. Enjoy the ride, because the next five years are going g to have some pretty great “ups.” Can’t wait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 16 hours ago, SectionC3 said: He’s a monster now. And I agree with you. Next year is going to be special. This kid has it all. He’s a great leader. Best QB in football. We will be in every game for the next 10 years. We will crack the Mahomes nut sooner or later. Probably sooner, actually, because Kelce is what makes them tick and he’s getting older. The wrong side of 30 for TE is not optimum He might have 1 or 2 years left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 I like the analogies comparing stuff that has happened in the past to stuff we have experienced now. However, that's where it ends. You can't project anything forward. The Bills have come close 2 straight years. With coaching changes, players turnover, other teams getting better, injuries, etc.. we could experience a regression next season, OR they could be amazing. Nothing from 30+ years ago will have any bearing on 2022-2023. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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