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All of this is, and will be, just nonsense at the end of the upcoming season.  The front office has put some very nice finishing touches on this defense, and I predict that Elam will be a significant enough improvement over Wallace to get the Bills the Lombardi Trophy.  And I am a big Levi Wallace fan.  Just now having looked at Elam's tape enough, I can see he'll be just enough of an improvement (if not more) to put this D over the top, when you take into consideration Tim Settle and the other additions on that side this year.

 

Add to that, James Cook will be a huge plus.  And I think he'll make a much bigger impact running than most people think. 

 

 

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2 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Utter drivel.

There’s lots of people on this thread who have decided Beane sucks, and will do anything to rationalize it. No matter how foolish they sound. 

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1 hour ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:


Ha, this thread is back…good link above,  and he’s not wrong.  Beane is without question one of the best GMs in the NFL right now and has a legit case for best, although he won’t get the wide spread recognition as “the best” until a SB victory.  

 

But wow was it entertaining to go back and read some of the absurd and foolish takes in this thread hahaha.  

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On 1/24/2022 at 12:34 AM, IronMaidenBills said:

We have not drafted enough high end talent. 

 

Edmunds rd 1

Basham rd 2

Epenesa rd 2

Ford rd 2

Moss rd 3 

Oliver rd 1 

Rousseau rd 1 

 

Have all underperformed their draft statuses thus far IMO. Especially Ford and Moss. 

 

I expect more from Edmunds, Oliver, and Rousseau given their rd 1 status. 

Not enough high end talent!? Okay go get Doug Whaley is we’re gonna say insane things then 

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On 1/24/2022 at 3:34 AM, IronMaidenBills said:

We have not drafted enough high end talent. 

 

Edmunds rd 1

Basham rd 2

Epenesa rd 2

Ford rd 2

Moss rd 3 

Oliver rd 1 

Rousseau rd 1 

 

Have all underperformed their draft statuses thus far IMO. Especially Ford and Moss. 

 

I expect more from Edmunds, Oliver, and Rousseau given their rd 1 status. 

Bill Polian is in the HOF.  Look at the Bills drafts from 1986 to 1992.  You can nitpick any GM.https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf/draft.htm

Polian is held in high esteem, yet he was handed Bruce Smith & Jim Kelly.  He did not draft those two or fellow HOFer Andre Reed. 

Now I'm not knocking Polian, I'm just saying every GM has hits & misses & Beane has done more as GM than anyone ever to hold the position.  

 

 

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He has been “made” by his Allen choice, which you can never take away. But for the purpose of this thought study, imagine that he did not pick Allen. Imagine he had picked Rosen.

 

Where would our fans rank him then?

 

Likely quite low.

 

Shows how 1 pick can make or break a career.

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On 5/23/2022 at 6:35 PM, GunnerBill said:

 

Utter drivel.


It usually is from him.  During last season he was saying it was a bad move to give Allen a contract already. 

6 hours ago, Einstein said:

He has been “made” by his Allen choice, which you can never take away. But for the purpose of this thought study, imagine that he did not pick Allen. Imagine he had picked Rosen.

 

Where would our fans rank him then?

 

Likely quite low.

 

Shows how 1 pick can make or break a career.

 

Same fans wanted him to pick Rosen lol

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13 hours ago, Einstein said:

He has been “made” by his Allen choice, which you can never take away. But for the purpose of this thought study, imagine that he did not pick Allen. Imagine he had picked Rosen.

 

Where would our fans rank him then?

 

Likely quite low.

 

Shows how 1 pick can make or break a career.


thanks Einstein 

I’ll try to remember that 

 

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1 hour ago, machine gun kelly said:

So you guys do know people that follow the NFL as experts voted him GM of the year.

 

anyone can nit pick Beane.  Just like all the armchair QB’s can nit pick McD’s game time decisions.

 

Apparently, they weren’t imagining that Beane picked Rosen. Tell them to get with the imaginary program!!!   :)

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On 1/24/2022 at 3:29 AM, IronMaidenBills said:

FA acquisitions/trades. 

 

Sanders

Beasley

Cox Jr.

Diggs

Addison

Bates

Breida

Butler

Feliciano

Haack 

Hart 

Hughes

Hyde

Taiwan Jones

Klein 

Kumerow

Lotulelei 

Matakevich 

McKenzie 

Morse 

Obada 

Poyer

Smith 

Trubisky 

Williams 

 

 

Drafted/Undrafted 

 

Allen 2018 rd 1 #7    (Great Pick)

Basham 2021 rd 2 #61  (Meh, maybe good) 

Bass 2020 rd 6 #188  (Great Pick) 

Boettger 2018 UDFA (Good pickup, all things considering) 

Brown 2021 rd 3 #93 (Good Pick, maybe great)

Bryant 2017 UDFA (Meh) 

Davis 2020 rd 4 #128 (Good Pick, maybe great)

Dawkins 2017 rd 2 #63 (Good Pick, maybe great) 

Dodson 2019 UDFA (Meh pickup)

Doyle 2021 rd 5 #161 (Meh, maybe good) 

Edmunds 2018 rd 1 #16 (Meh) 

Epenesa 2020 rd 2 #54 (Meh, maybe good) 

Ferguson 2016 UDFA (Great Pickup)

Ford 2019 rd 2 #38 (Dumpster fire, maybe meh)

Gilliam 2020 UDFA (Good Pickup) 

Hamlin 2021 rd 6 #212 (Meh)

Jackson 2020 rd 7 #239 (Good Pick) 

Johnson 2019 rd 6 #181 (Meh, maybe good) 

Taron Johnson 2018 rd 4 #121 (Good pick) 

Knox 2019 rd 3 #96 (Good Pick) 

Lewis 2019 UDFA (Meh pickup) 

Milano 2017 rd 5 #163 (Good Pick, maybe great) 

Moss 2020 rd 3 #86 (Dumpster fire, maybe meh) 

Neal 2018 rd 5 #154 (Good Pick) 

Oliver 2019 rd 1 #9 (Maybe good)

Phillips 2018 rd 3 #96 ( Maybe good)

Rousseau 2021 rd 1 #30 (Maybe good) 

Singletary 2019 rd 3 #74 (Good Pick) 

Stevenson2021 rd 6 #203 (Meh) 

Sweeney 2019 rd 7 #228 (Dumpster fire, maybe meh)

Wallace 2018 UDFA (Great Pickup, all things considering)  

White 2017 rd 1 #27 (Great pick) 

Zimmer 2016 UDFA (Good pickup) 

 

I realize not all of these are Beane picks or signings, but what I do have listed is not really a good showing for Beane. 

 

I also haven’t mentioned these players. 

 

Jake Fromm

Isaiah Hodgins 

Vosean Joseph 

Ray Ray McCloud

Austin Proehl 

Rachad Wildgoose 

Jack Anderson 

 

 

Instead of typing lots of names, ask yourself one simple question. “How does this team compare to the one Beane inherited?”

 

if you are not able to answer that question with a resounding “leaps and bounds better” then there is no hope for you.

 

Look at the big picture, stop getting lost in the weeds.

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1 hour ago, Beerball said:

Instead of typing lots of names, ask yourself one simple question. “How does this team compare to the one Beane inherited?”

 

if you are not able to answer that question with a resounding “leaps and bounds better” then there is no hope for you.

 

Look at the big picture, stop getting lost in the weeds.

 

Yeah, but the team was loaded with young talent.  Sure it never led to wins, but they were young and talented!

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2 hours ago, Augie said:

 

Apparently, they weren’t imagining that Beane picked Rosen. Tell them to get with the imaginary program!!!   :)

 

I realize that you’re modus operandi is sarcasm but surely you understand the purpose of isolating a heavily weighted variable (such as QB), to determine whether the variables outside of the heavily weighted  are of quality.

 

Or maybe you don’t….

 

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1 hour ago, Beerball said:

Instead of typing lots of names, ask yourself one simple question. “How does this team compare to the one Beane inherited?”

 

if you are not able to answer that question with a resounding “leaps and bounds better” then there is no hope for you.

 

Look at the big picture, stop getting lost in the weeds.

 

Staying with the big picture, how may rosters in the NFL, top to bottom, would you trade the Bills roster for? That should not be a big number, if any. Vegas seems to agree as we are again considered a top Super Bowl contender. That tells me what I need to know about Beane and the job he’s done. 

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