Augie Posted July 5, 2022 Posted July 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, teef said: it's incredible to me that the nfl community thinks beane is one of the top in his game, has put together one of the most complete rosters in the league, and some fans still can't cope with it. It seems to be just a very vocal minority who can’t admit the obvious. 2 Quote
machine gun kelly Posted July 5, 2022 Posted July 5, 2022 Teef, because everyone wants to be an armchair QB, and say later, see I knew it. This is probably over the years the 5th time I stayed what Polian said on Late Hits more than once. He pointed out his. Career avg. for hitting on players was 57%. If a guy in the HOF and known as one of the best ever self reports 57%, then he’s making the point no one bats 1000. It just doesn’t work that way. Quote
Einstein Posted July 5, 2022 Posted July 5, 2022 21 minutes ago, NewEra said: But being correct is a different story. Again, not many on earth would agree with your answer Not many on earth would agree that Beane has been average at adding talent outside of the QB position? I dont agree. 20 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: I cited a lot more than that. But you’re hung up on these two weak points cuz your whole point is quite honestly flawed and weak in the first place and you literally have nothing else to throw out. What other players did you cite? Subtractions? 1 1 1 Quote
Logic Posted July 5, 2022 Posted July 5, 2022 12 minutes ago, teef said: it's incredible to me that the nfl community thinks beane is one of the top in his game, has put together one of the most complete rosters in the league, and some fans still can't cope with it. Multiple NFL analysts and reporters: "Beane is one of the best GMs in the business, and the Bills have one of the best rosters in the league." Associated Press: "Beane is the 2020 NFL Executive of the Year". All sportsbooks, in consensus: "Bills are the 2022 favorites to win the Super Bowl". Handful of posters on this forum: "Not so fast. Remember Kelvin Benjamin?!" 1 Quote
NewEra Posted July 5, 2022 Posted July 5, 2022 10 minutes ago, Einstein said: Not many on earth would agree that Beane has been average at adding talent outside of the QB position? I dont agree. What other players did you cite? Subtractions? W/e floats your boat. The titans don’t have a better roster than the Bills. Saying it doesn’t make it true. 1 Quote
FLFan Posted July 5, 2022 Posted July 5, 2022 15 minutes ago, NewEra said: W/e floats your boat. The titans don’t have a better roster than the Bills. Saying it doesn’t make it true. I am not sure how anyone has the energy to argue with trolls like this. It is like playing whack a mole with a preprogrammed robot. Einstein he is not. 2 Quote
Doc Posted July 5, 2022 Posted July 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Einstein said: There is a name for this. Its called 'homerism'. That's literally the point of the exercise. To evaluate rosters sans the QB. Well for starters, the Browns have had the #1 overall pick several times. So not a fair fight. The Bucs and Rams have had other QBs and failed to go far in the playoffs, much less win the SB. And the Titans had Mariota who the Bills beat. Quote
NewEra Posted July 5, 2022 Posted July 5, 2022 7 minutes ago, FLFan said: I am not sure how anyone has the energy to argue with trolls like this. It is like playing whack a mole with a preprogrammed robot. Einstein he is not. Haven’t really paid much attention the board over the last few weeks, had a lull in the action at work, figured I’d chime in on such a nonsensical comment 1 Quote
Einstein Posted July 5, 2022 Posted July 5, 2022 29 minutes ago, Doc said: Well for starters, the Browns have had the #1 overall pick several times. So not a fair fight. The Bucs and Rams have had other QBs and failed to go far in the playoffs, much less win the SB. And the Titans had Mariota who the Bills beat. I dont think youre following the conversation. 50 minutes ago, NewEra said: W/e floats your boat. The titans don’t have a better roster than the Bills. Saying it doesn’t make it true. I'm not just saying it. That roster also beat the Bills, twice Quote
NewEra Posted July 5, 2022 Posted July 5, 2022 6 minutes ago, Einstein said: I dont think youre following the conversation. I'm not just saying it. That roster also beat the Bills, twice Their current roster has never beaten the Bills once. But, make more stuff up. Quote
Einstein Posted July 5, 2022 Posted July 5, 2022 11 minutes ago, NewEra said: Their current roster has never beaten the Bills once. But, make more stuff up. By that logic, the current Bills roster has also beaten no-one ever. Therefore this is all conjecture. Quote
Milanos Milano Posted July 5, 2022 Author Posted July 5, 2022 1 hour ago, teef said: it's incredible to me that the nfl community thinks beane is one of the top in his game, has put together one of the most complete rosters in the league, and some fans still can't cope with it. See I’m the type of person that doesn’t conflate complete rosters with results. Consider a great GM great when said “most complete roster” wins Super Bowls. Right now I consider the Rams and Patriots GM as better than Beane because they actually put together a roster that won Super Bowls. 1 Quote
Ya Digg? Posted July 5, 2022 Posted July 5, 2022 2 hours ago, Einstein said: Easy. For one, the Titans. Even WITH Allen, they've beaten the Bills roster twice in a row. Another is the Rams. Who practically have a Pro-Bowl team for a roster. The Buccaneers are another, and the Browns are close (their QB held them back more than helped them). . . Actually think about these rosters-outside of Henry, where are the titans better? What do the Rams have that the Bills don’t? The Bucs were terrible (with essentially the same roster) before Brady got there-when Brady “retired” that ship was sinking FAST! I applaud you for sticking to your guns, but you keep saying people are being homers or ignoring what you are saying when you are paying absolutely no attention to the counter arguments people are making to you. He had messed up, everyone is agreeing with you on this, but you’re not acknowledging that he has hit on more than just Allen 1 Quote
Einstein Posted July 5, 2022 Posted July 5, 2022 10 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said: Actually think about these rosters-outside of Henry, where are the titans better? RB as you mentioned, O-Line (though this may change with Saffold coming to Buffalo), D-Line (Simmons is the second best defensive player in the league behind Donald). Their safety duo of Hooker and Byard is just as good as ours but significantly younger. Their LB’s are Dupree, Landry and Cunningham. Really good group. There is a reason they have beat us twice. It’s not luck. That’s a stacked roster. Quote
Einstein Posted July 5, 2022 Posted July 5, 2022 18 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said: What do the Rams have that the Bills don’t? Rams have better WR’s (Kupp is top 3 and Robinson is top 10). O-line (one of the best in the NFL though losing Whitworth stings), D-Line (Aaron Donald, do I have to say more?), CB’s (Ramsey and Hill) and LB’s (Leonard Floyd, Bobby Wagner). They really do have a pro bowl roster. 1 1 Quote
Royale with Cheese Posted July 5, 2022 Posted July 5, 2022 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Einstein said: RB as you mentioned, O-Line (though this may change with Saffold coming to Buffalo), D-Line (Simmons is the second best defensive player in the league behind Donald). Their safety duo of Hooker and Byard is just as good as ours but significantly younger. Their LB’s are Dupree, Landry and Cunningham. Really good group. There is a reason they have beat us twice. It’s not luck. That’s a stacked roster. LOL…Simmons is better than TJ Watt and Myles Garrett??? Simmons is probably not even in the top 20 in the league lol. Their DL is not better. Their defensive backs are not better. Our WR and QB is better. Great, they got us on RB and maybe LB. 11 minutes ago, Einstein said: Rams have better WR’s (Kupp is top 3 and Robinson is top 10). O-line (one of the best in the NFL though losing Whitworth stings), D-Line (Aaron Donald, do I have to say more?), CB’s (Ramsey and Hill) and LB’s (Leonard Floyd, Bobby Wagner). They really do have a pro bowl roster. Allen, White, Von Miller, Diggs, Poyer, Dawkins and Hyde are also Pro Bowl level players. Sounds like the Rams are going undefeated huh? Edited July 5, 2022 by Royale with Cheese Quote
Augie Posted July 5, 2022 Posted July 5, 2022 8 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: LOL…Simmons is better than TJ Watt and Myles Garrett??? Simmons is probably not even in the top 20 in the league lol. Their DL is not better. Their defensive backs are not better. Are WR and our QB is better. Great, they got us on RB and maybe LB. Allen, White, Von Miller, Diggs, Poyer, Dawkins and Hyde are also Pro Bowl level players. Sounds like the Rams are going undefeated huh? We have gone from arguing that Beane is not really a very good GM and is just lucky he has Josh, to maybe we are not THE VERY BEST roster in the league. I can live with that! Quote
Milanos Milano Posted July 5, 2022 Author Posted July 5, 2022 26 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: LOL…Simmons is better than TJ Watt and Myles Garrett??? Simmons is probably not even in the top 20 in the league lol. Their DL is not better. Their defensive backs are not better. Our WR and QB is better. Great, they got us on RB and maybe LB. Allen, White, Von Miller, Diggs, Poyer, Dawkins and Hyde are also Pro Bowl level players. Sounds like the Rams are going undefeated huh? If you guys truly believe our roster is better than most in the league, then why are we underperforming? Why haven’t we won Super Bowls while other less talent rosters are? Is it coaching? Is McD our weak link holding us back? 16 minutes ago, Augie said: We have gone from arguing that Beane is not really a very good GM and is just lucky he has Josh, to maybe we are not THE VERY BEST roster in the league. I can live with that! Isn’t the GM’s job to field the very best roster in the league as to win Super Bowls? Clearly we aren’t doing enough then by that logic right? I’m not saying to fire Beane, but obviously based on results, we aren’t maximizing our potential due to not being the most talented roster. 1 Quote
NewEra Posted July 6, 2022 Posted July 6, 2022 1 hour ago, Einstein said: By that logic, the current Bills roster has also beaten no-one ever. Therefore this is all conjecture. Oh my bad. Now that you explain this using logic, I see my mistake. You’re right, the titans have a better roster than the Bills and the Jags have a better roster too. They beat us last year. Or does a team have to beat us twice in a row to qualify? Quote
Einstein Posted July 6, 2022 Posted July 6, 2022 42 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Simmons is better than TJ Watt Yes. 42 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: and Myles Garrett??? Yes. 42 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Simmons is probably not even in the top 20 in the league lol. Top 3. Very underrated by casual fans. 42 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Their DL is not better. Yes it is. 42 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Their defensive backs are not better. Yes they are. Especially with White coming off his injury. 42 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Our WR and QB is better. Agreed. 42 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Great, they got us on RB and maybe LB. And O-Line, and D-Line, and CB’s and tied with safeties. 7 minutes ago, NewEra said: Oh my bad. Now that you explain this using logic, I see my mistake. You’re right, the titans have a better roster than the Bills The point being that all we have to go on is previous seasons. Guessing on how new players will adapt and affect rosters is silly. 1 1 Quote
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