Heartbreaking Divisional Round loss...just like in '89...

[RyanC883]

1 minute ago, Playoffs? said:

Yep. I mean he wasn’t even selected to the Pro Bowl. That’s a crime!

 

 

 

forgot about that.  What a freaking joke.  

Just now, BuffaloNuts said:

 

Lol…  No way bean should be fired. Fire him and replace him with who? You have to look at entire body of work. Not just beans 1st rounders -josh. Literally the only other first rounders he’s drafted are Edmunds, Oliver and Rousseau. Far from busts. He’s done pretty well in free agency and also managing the cap. He’s hit pretty well on guys like Knox,  Davis, and a number of later round guys. D lineman usually take a few years to develop, so boogie and Greg could develop into much better assets. The work he did to get to #7 and grab Allen alone was a masterpiece. 

 

Bean has been fine in FA, you're right.  But Oliver at 9 is a bust, you need an immediate impact guy at 9.  Knox was a good pick, he seems to be better in later rounds.  This year he took Groot and Boogie, while our "rival" snatched up an all pro OL and great LB.  Said LB made plays today, Groot was invisible.  He reaches in the first rounds of the draft.  

[Royale with Cheese]

8 minutes ago, RyanC883 said:

 

yep, guess he did.  

 

We would not go 9-7 with TT this year.  

 

I think we just value Allen v. the other players differently.  that's fine.  

No its just your logic is absolutely terrible.

Why could TT get to 9 wins with the 2017 roster but not this 2021 roster? Really the only answer you can give is you think the 2017 roster was better.

Edited January 24, 2022 by Royale with Cheese

[mykidsdad]

We are going to be relevant for a long time. That’s something.

[BuffaloNuts]

4 minutes ago, RyanC883 said:

 

forgot about that.  What a freaking joke.  

 

Bean has been fine in FA, you're right.  But Oliver at 9 is a bust, you need an immediate impact guy at 9.  Knox was a good pick, he seems to be better in later rounds.  This year he took Groot and Boogie, while our "rival" snatched up an all pro OL and great LB.  Said LB made plays today, Groot was invisible.  He reaches in the first rounds of the draft.  

Oliver was far from a reach at 9. A lot of experts didn’t think he’d fall that low. He’s sure as hell not a bust and he’s still young. Groot isn’t the best, but getting a day one starter @pick 16. He may not be a hall of famer, but he might have found one 9 picks earlier. Hard to say Oliver or Edmunds we’re reached in those drafts. Then last year Rousseau at 30? Not sure what you’re expecting at 30, but he’s been a hell of a contributor as a rookie.  No GMs hit on all their picks. Especially not middle to late 1st rounders. Bean isn’t the problem. Work to be done, but hardly need to blow it all up. That’s what firing a GM does. Bean and McDermott have a pretty damn good working relationship. They’ve gotten us to this point and the future is bright.

[Beast]

This one was worse.

 

Much worse.

[Ross Murdock]

In post game on ESPN Kelce stated that on the play with 9 seconds left he stated to Mahomes in the huddle that the Bills were leaving the middle "wide open", and he thought he could get "significant yards" on a straight seam route... Just what they did.    

[RyanC883]

2 minutes ago, BuffaloNuts said:

Oliver was far from a reach at 9. A lot of experts didn’t think he’d fall that low. He’s sure as hell not a bust and he’s still young. Groot isn’t the best, but getting a day one starter @pick 16. He may not be a hall of famer, but he might have found one 9 picks earlier. Hard to say Oliver or Edmunds we’re reached in those drafts. Then last year Rousseau at 30? Not sure what you’re expecting at 30, but he’s been a hell of a contributor as a rookie.  No GMs hit on all their picks. Especially not middle to late 1st rounders. Bean isn’t the problem. Work to be done, but hardly need to blow it all up. That’s what firing a GM does. Bean and McDermott have a pretty damn good working relationship. They’ve gotten us to this point and the future is bright.

 

I have to respectuflly disagree, wrt Bean's early picks.  Oliver was picked at 9, you need an instant impact player, not developmental.  Ed dropped from 1st overall in most mocks to 9, there was a reason, he was a developmental player.  Brian Burns would have been a better pick, or Jeff Simmons.  Later in the 1st round that year, Bean picked Cody Ford, passing on Elgton Jenkins. Edmunds was a total reach, given that we could have not traded up and taken Vander Esch or Darius Leonard.  Groot and Boogie (inactive most of the year) were not a BPA, Barmore would have been more impactful, esp. given the need for run stopping on our D, or Freiermuth at TE with Knox; or Nick Bolton, who played well against us again today; or Creed Humphry.  Bean has missed an AWFUL LOT in the 1st 2 rounds.  I wouldn't blow the whole thing up, but Bean needs to add talent to the front 7.  We are in win-now mode, do what hockey teams often do, trade 1st rounders for proven vets.  We don't have developmental time.  We have like a 5-10 year window.  

5 minutes ago, Ross Murdock said:

In post game on ESPN Kelce stated that on the play with 9 seconds left he stated to Mahomes in the huddle that the Bills were leaving the middle "wide open", and he thought he could get "significant yards" on a straight seam route... Just what they did.    

 

yep, was open all game.  Never solved by Frazier or our great MLB Edmunds.  

16 minutes ago, mykidsdad said:

We are going to be relevant for a long time. That’s something.

 

that's something, but also nothing.  

23 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

No its just your logic is absolutely terrible.

Why could TT get to 9 wins with the 2017 roster but not this 2021 roster? Really the only answer you can give is you think the 2017 roster was better.

 

dude, relax man.  we are arguing about 1 win here.  I think we had a harder schedule this year.  We don't beat KC the first time w/o Allen, or the Pats in the regular season at all, and the Panthers and Falcons games become awfully close.  Heck, the Jets game at the end of the year.  

[Royale with Cheese]

4 minutes ago, RyanC883 said:

dude, relax man.  we are arguing about 1 win here.  I think we had a harder schedule this year.  We don't beat KC the first time w/o Allen, or the Pats in the regular season at all, and the Panthers and Falcons games become awfully close.  Heck, the Jets game at the end of the year.  

I’m not arguing about 1 win.  
 

Of course we don’t beat KC without Allen just like KC doesn’t beat us without Mahomes.  What kind of logic are you using?  “Take Allen off this team and we aren’t as good.”  No crap, that’s why are paying him $258 million and KC is paying Mahomes $500 million.

[Big Turk]

34 minutes ago, RyanC883 said:

 

I have to respectuflly disagree, wrt Bean's early picks.  Oliver was picked at 9, you need an instant impact player, not developmental.  Ed dropped from 1st overall in most mocks to 9, there was a reason, he was a developmental player.  Brian Burns would have been a better pick, or Jeff Simmons.  Later in the 1st round that year, Bean picked Cody Ford, passing on Elgton Jenkins. Edmunds was a total reach, given that we could have not traded up and taken Vander Esch or Darius Leonard.  Groot and Boogie (inactive most of the year) were not a BPA, Barmore would have been more impactful, esp. given the need for run stopping on our D, or Freiermuth at TE with Knox; or Nick Bolton, who played well against us again today; or Creed Humphry.  Bean has missed an AWFUL LOT in the 1st 2 rounds.  I wouldn't blow the whole thing up, but Bean needs to add talent to the front 7.  We are in win-now mode, do what hockey teams often do, trade 1st rounders for proven vets.  We don't have developmental time.  We have like a 5-10 year window.  

 

yep, was open all game.  Never solved by Frazier or our great MLB Edmunds.  

 

that's something, but also nothing.  

 

dude, relax man.  we are arguing about 1 win here.  I think we had a harder schedule this year.  We don't beat KC the first time w/o Allen, or the Pats in the regular season at all, and the Panthers and Falcons games become awfully close.  Heck, the Jets game at the end of the year.  

 

Bro, some picks at 9 are out of the league in 3 years.  Let's not act like every player picked at 9 is a HOF player. Give me a break.

[chongli]

I believe Green Bay lost 3 consecutive NFC playoff games to Dallas from 1993-95, before winning the SB in 1996. Let's hope Buffalo can evetually shake KC.

Edited January 24, 2022 by chongli