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I wish Daboll the best of luck. He has done his best for the Bills and he was instrumental in Allen's development.  I don't think there is any more he can do to help Allen going forward and in fact may now be holding Allen back.  I would love to see what a creative young OC could do with Allen. I would be all for a Kellon Moore up in the booth.

 

 

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9 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Link?

 

It was in his presser--heard it on the FAN (awful network, btw) replay on way to the gym this afternoon.  He was asked if QB should have a say in the selection of coaches (hey Mr. Watson!) and he said if Daboll goes, "there's one guy in the organization I am very partial to" replace him, or something to that effect.  

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7 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

It was in his presser--heard it on the FAN (awful network, btw) replay on way to the gym this afternoon.  He was asked if QB should have a say in the selection of coaches (hey Mr. Watson!) and he said if Daboll goes, "there's one guy in the organization I am very partial to" replace him, or something to that effect.  

 

Found a link: https://heavy.com/sports/buffalo-bills/josh-allen-ken-dorsey-offensive-coordinator/

 

And while he never actually said Dorsey's name, yup, it's gotta be him.

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42 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Found a link: https://heavy.com/sports/buffalo-bills/josh-allen-ken-dorsey-offensive-coordinator/

 

And while he never actually said Dorsey's name, yup, it's gotta be him.


Question. I am still reading that Daboll is bringing Dorsey. I know the Bills can’t block it. But if Dorsey were to leave, it would be his own decision, correct? He would effectively be turning down the Bills OC job then, right? 
 

 

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I am ready to move on from Daboll.  Too inconsistent in how he calls games.  Like the first half I was cursing at him constantly.  

 

What he has done here and with Allen has been great, but for us to take the next step, I think we need a change at OC and DC personally.  Frazier needs to go, he lacks situational awareness in how he calls game and is poor at adjusting in game.  

 

Both have to be commended for what they have done to get us here, but I think we need to evolve now and take a further step and some new blood at the two key coordinator positions I think are whats best for us.  

 

Also...I still hope we replace Bobby Johnson too.  

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3 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

We will see very quickly if Josh made Daboll or if Daboll made Josh.  


I don’t know if anybody made anybody. But they did at least grow together. For every 1% that Allen is good, it doesn’t make Daboll 1% bad. It’s not a pie. 

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Question. I am still reading that Daboll is bringing Dorsey. I know the Bills can’t block it. But if Dorsey were to leave, it would be his own decision, correct? He would effectively be turning down the Bills OC job then, right? 
 

 

 

Well assuming Daboll gets the job and then both Daboll and McD offer him the OC position, it will come down who he chooses to go with.

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1 minute ago, Mango said:


I don’t know if anybody made anybody. But they did at least grow together. For every 1% that Allen is good, it doesn’t make Daboll 1% bad. It’s not a pie. 

Maybe thats true.  But if I am making a pie and someone hands me dog crap and road salt as the ingredients, my pie probably tastes like crap and poison.   

 

What I was getting at is Daboll is more than likely going from having delish ingredients to a dog crap and road salt pie.

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8 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Well assuming Daboll gets the job and then both Daboll and McD offer him the OC position, it will come down who he chooses to go with.


I would hope the franchise has an internal contingency plan. If Allen is preferring Dorsey, I would hope they have had the conversation with him already and they do t over think it. 

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12 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

I am ready to move on from Daboll.  Too inconsistent in how he calls games.  Like the first half I was cursing at him constantly.  

 

What he has done here and with Allen has been great, but for us to take the next step, I think we need a change at OC and DC personally.  Frazier needs to go, he lacks situational awareness in how he calls game and is poor at adjusting in game.  

 

Both have to be commended for what they have done to get us here, but I think we need to evolve now and take a further step and some new blood at the two key coordinator positions I think are whats best for us.  

 

Also...I still hope we replace Bobby Johnson too.  


Youth movement is taking over as the new leaders of this team.   Would be a great time to bring in two new coordinators.  
 

Dorsey as OC is fine by me.  Allen wants it, I’m good with it.  
 

We need new energy in house though.. new ideas and new people in McDermott’s ear, specifically on the defensive side of the ball.  
 

You don’t beat teams like BUF or KC by playing bend don’t break… we need more risk taking and aggressiveness.  
 

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29 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

It makes too much sense not to happen.  Bring in a coach from your old team who you know well and who had amazing success developing a raw QB, and hope he can do the same with the QB on your new team and salvage him.

 

12 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

We will see very quickly if Josh made Daboll or if Daboll made Josh.  

 

Josh made Josh.  And in turn made Daboll.

 

9 minutes ago, Mango said:

Question. I am still reading that Daboll is bringing Dorsey. I know the Bills can’t block it. But if Dorsey were to leave, it would be his own decision, correct? He would effectively be turning down the Bills OC job then, right?

 

Got a link?  I'm not sure why Dorsey would choose the Giant's OC job over the Bills'. 

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13 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

It makes too much sense not to happen.  Bring in a coach from your old team who you know well and who had amazing success developing a raw QB, and hope he can do the same with the QB on your new team and salvage him.

 

 

Josh made Josh.  And in turn made Daboll.

 

 

Got a link?  I'm not sure why Dorsey would choose the Giant's OC job over the Bills'. 


Sorry, my bad. Just one guy, Cam Marino from rotoworld. He doubles back and says Dorsey his Dabolls first choice, but the Bills love Dorsey too. Expectation is Dorsey is calling plays for Allen and Co. 

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1 minute ago, Mango said:

Sorry, my bad. Just one guy, Cam Marino from rotoworld. He doubles back and says Dorsey his Dabolls first choice, but the Bills love Dorsey too. Expectation is Dorsey is calling plays for Allen and Co. 

 

Yeah, no surprise Daboll would want to take Dorsey with him.  But that's why the Bills promoted Dorsey last off-season, and he'll get to work with the best QB in the league, which will fast-track him to a HC'ing gig more assuredly than trying to fix the unfixable Daniel Jones, much less some yet-to-be-named QB.

 

 

2 minutes ago, McBean said:

Fire McDermott and keep Daboll.

 

Not yet.  McD gets a few more seasons.

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