[Edited title] Chiefs starting LB Willie Gay arrested on DV charge, released from Jail Thursday

[Mike in Horseheads]

13 hours ago, PaattMaann said:

NOT THE VACUUM CLEANER!!!! Better not have been a Dyson or a roomba

If that was a Kirby, he wouldn't of damaged it.

[GunnerBill]

@Zerovoltz - find the thread when Ed was arrested. There were lots of people here saying release him. Overreact is what we do. 

As for the Chiefs giving 2nd and 3rd chances it has always been Andy Reid's way. He was the same in Philly. Try and find draft value by drafting guys off other teams' boards for whatever reason. Worked out great with Trey Smith (although he was off board for injury reasons not behaviour reasons). If you choose to be that way you are going to have a few guys where incidents pop up. 

[Dr.Sack]

Gay will play.

[AuntieEm]

4 hours ago, Simon said:

 

Auntie, it's 2022 right now. 

 Yea it is but the 2022  NFL season starts in Sept not Jan. This is still the 2021 season  and even if op counts this as 2022  Houston didn't just enter the league in 2022.  I know the Bills have been bad at winning in recent times but even they don't lose to a team that wasn't in the league a couple playoff seasons ago. I mean how did the Bills lose the wildcard game to a Houston team that wasn't in the league???

 

 

[hondo in seattle]

10 hours ago, Zerovoltz said:

 

I'm not the one trying to make moral arguemnts ONLY for other teams players....I accept there are bad dudes on my team...and I don't care if yoru team has bad dudes, good dudes...etc.....It's just interesting that you guys dont' seem to ahve a problem with Dodson.

 

I do.  I want to root for my guys.  I can't root for someone who does bad things.  At least not until they reform and redeem themselves.  

 

You can't say sanctimonious Bills fans accept the bad behavior of their own players but condemn it elsewhere.   That's not true.   Bills fans, like Chief fans, are not all cut from the same cloth.

 

Edited January 21, 2022 by hondo in seattle

[LabattBlue]

9 hours ago, ToGoGo said:

Tell the truth, did you post on everyone's forums back in the Alex Smith days? Didn't think so. 

…and he will respond with, “I just like to talk football with other fans”.  I call BS.  There are plenty of football fans on your teams board to talk with.  No need to TROLL elsewhere. 

[krf139]

Hell play. So much for “inspire change.”

[Paul Costa]

Can someone make an excel spreadsheet on the Chief players & coaches and their crimes. I think this will help everyone come game day when you trying to explain to whoever what crime they’ve committed. It can be so confusing who has pending drug charges vs. who has pending gun trafficking charges. Maybe like 4 or 5 categories?

DV

Rape

Drugs

Guns

manslaughter 

[BananaB]

Sounds like roid rage

[BringMetheHeadofLeonLett]

15 hours ago, Motorin' said:

 

Everyone in KC is saying he "just" broke a vaccum, and ignoring that the police report says he smashed walls in an argument while his child and the child's mother were in the house. 

 

How long before the restraining order is issued? Or is the judge waiting until after the playoffs? 

Ooh.  She needs to get a 100 yard restraining order, then go sit at the 50 each week. 

[MJS]

15 hours ago, Zerovoltz said:

You are right...he got his day in court and he was proven innocent.  

 

Before that did anyone call for his release?  Did anyone give up being a Bills fan becasue of this arrest?

 

Did people appeal to let Oliver go through the system?  

 

I'm not here to tell you Willie Gay is a great guy.  I am saying he smashed a vacuum and has a court date.  I hope he plays well Sunday.

Dude, there were tons of fans that were calling for Oliver to get released when that happened. Many of us were saying that we just have to wait to see how things turn out, but go look. There were a ton of vocal people advocating for his release.

 

Nobody really knew about Dodson. He was not on anyone's radar because he was just a body. Undrafted and never played.

[Zerovoltz]

So I am getting the vibe that having bad dudes on the team is OK..as long as it's not too many.  ....The standard is one or two on the Bills is OK...do I got that right?  

 

Again..I am not trying to win an argument here about what team has the better guys, or how your team has fewer bad people on it....whatever...I'll take that L.  If they are free per the rules of our justice system and society to play football, then fine...I'll put up with bad people being on the team I root for.

 

....to @MJS  ....so what you are saying here is that fans called for Oliver to be released BUT you'd all have to see how it played out in court first?  

 

But Willie Gay doesn't get his day in court first?  

 

I'm not defending Willie Gay (or any other guys who break the law and do crappy stuff)  ...I am point out your collective standard here for acceptable behavior and character....you have one standard for Bills guys ....and another for other teams players.  

 

My standard is again....all teams have bad dudes...I wish my team didn't.  Society has determined they are cleared to work....and so I'll root for my team, to win, bad and good dudes.

[Paul Costa]

1 hour ago, Zerovoltz said:

So I am getting the vibe that having bad dudes on the team is OK..as long as it's not too many.  ....The standard is one or two on the Bills is OK...do I got that right?  

 

Again..I am not trying to win an argument here about what team has the better guys, or how your team has fewer bad people on it....whatever...I'll take that L.  If they are free per the rules of our justice system and society to play football, then fine...I'll put up with bad people being on the team I root for.

 

....to @MJS  ....so what you are saying here is that fans called for Oliver to be released BUT you'd all have to see how it played out in court first?  

 

But Willie Gay doesn't get his day in court first?  

 

I'm not defending Willie Gay (or any other guys who break the law and do crappy stuff)  ...I am point out your collective standard here for acceptable behavior and character....you have one standard for Bills guys ....and another for other teams players.  

 

My standard is again....all teams have bad dudes...I wish my team didn't.  Society has determined they are cleared to work....and so I'll root for my team, to win, bad and good dudes.

Your team is like 10 over the limit of dirtbags. Hell you signed a new one yesterday. 

Edited January 21, 2022 by Paul Costa

[billybob71]

41 minutes ago, Zerovoltz said:

So I am getting the vibe that having bad dudes on the team is OK..as long as it's not too many.  ....The standard is one or two on the Bills is OK...do I got that right?  

 

Again..I am not trying to win an argument here about what team has the better guys, or how your team has fewer bad people on it....whatever...I'll take that L.  If they are free per the rules of our justice system and society to play football, then fine...I'll put up with bad people being on the team I root for.

 

....to @MJS  ....so what you are saying here is that fans called for Oliver to be released BUT you'd all have to see how it played out in court first?  

 

But Willie Gay doesn't get his day in court first?  

 

I'm not defending Willie Gay (or any other guys who break the law and do crappy stuff)  ...I am point out your collective standard here for acceptable behavior and character....you have one standard for Bills guys ....and another for other teams players.  

 

My standard is again....all teams have bad dudes...I wish my team didn't.  Society has determined they are cleared to work....and so I'll root for my team, to win, bad and good dudes.

this post is gay! willie willie gay!

[Rhode Island Red]

3 minutes ago, billybob71 said:

this post is gay! willie willie gay!

Hard to believe you’re old enough to type…

[muppy]

1 hour ago, Zerovoltz said:

So I am getting the vibe that having bad dudes on the team is OK..as long as it's not too many.  ....The standard is one or two on the Bills is OK...do I got that right?  

 

Again..I am not trying to win an argument here about what team has the better guys, or how your team has fewer bad people on it....whatever...I'll take that L.  If they are free per the rules of our justice system and society to play football, then fine...I'll put up with bad people being on the team I root for.

 

....to @MJS  ....so what you are saying here is that fans called for Oliver to be released BUT you'd all have to see how it played out in court first?  

 

But Willie Gay doesn't get his day in court first?  

 

I'm not defending Willie Gay (or any other guys who break the law and do crappy stuff)  ...I am point out your collective standard here for acceptable behavior and character....you have one standard for Bills guys ....and another for other teams players.  

 

My standard is again....all teams have bad dudes...I wish my team didn't.  Society has determined they are cleared to work....and so I'll root for my team, to win, bad and good dudes.

what a tempest in a teapot. The Bills present and past have had legal issues in my fandoms tenure, which were widely Speculated upon...as is why we even bother to chat online is to share thoughts...Big deal ...everybody gets their day in court and innocent until Proven guilty..... Come on man  such news right before a playoff game and it adds to the cred of the Chiefs being willing to sign alleged* bottom feeders.......Its a given if I were u I'd own it..noone holds @Zerovoltz responsible for any crime or even a majority of the Chiefs team....its a chatroom topic and your opinion is valid as anyone elses ...what I bolded Im calling baloney though. If Oliver had been found guilty he would have been criticized and even rationalized by a fanbase rabid for their team and wanting to see the best in its players. In that regard we are much alike.

 

Good luck Sunday the Chiefs are gonna need it :-))) GO BILLS

 

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[Irv]

10 hours ago, Dr.Sack said:

Gay will play.

 

[billybob71]

38 minutes ago, Rhode Island Red said:

Hard to believe you’re old enough to type…

my mommy lets me come on here after i have had my snack and watched Teletubbies

[PromoTheRobot]

Can we change the title of this thread already. Gay isn't in jail. Never was in jail.

[Paul Costa]

A small snipit from Gay’s encounter with his baby’s moma. Audio of him threatening her caught on tape still won’t be enough for chiefs fans. They will change narrative to Tyrel Dotson. 

Edited January 21, 2022 by Paul Costa