NewEra Posted January 20, 2022 Posted January 20, 2022 20 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: He sometimes moves in the pocket when he doesn't need to, wasting motion etc. However, it seems to work for him. Fixed that for ya there mean gene many QBs do. Ain’t nothing wrong with josh’s reaction to pressure in the pocket. He’s a lumberjack magician escaping pressure. Sure, he sometimes makes a bad play while under pressure in the pocket….just like Brady, Montana, Rodgers, Manning and every other qb to ever take a snap. 2 1 Quote
hemma Posted January 20, 2022 Posted January 20, 2022 29 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: He moves in the pocket when he doesn't need to, wasting motion etc. However, it seems to work for him. Yup. You get 9 seconds, somebody is bound to get open. 1 Quote
Solomon Grundy Posted January 20, 2022 Posted January 20, 2022 Spags like to make it look like he’s blitzing then back them off after the snap. Quote
HamSandwhich Posted January 20, 2022 Posted January 20, 2022 (edited) 31 minutes ago, HOUSE said: Still not good enough for the Pro Bowl....sorry He should hide that ball a little closer to the hip on play action, that would have gotten him into the probowl. That or be named Lamar i suppose? Edited January 20, 2022 by HamSandwhich 2 Quote
CincyBillsFan Posted January 20, 2022 Posted January 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Gene1973 said: He moves in the pocket when he doesn't need to, wasting motion etc. However, it seems to work for him. When a guy is as dangerous running the football as Allen is how do you think a LB or safety sees his moves in the pocket? Does it cause them to hesitate or get a bit out of position thinking he's about to take off? I guess my point is can you really call it "wasted motion"? 2 1 Quote
Protocal69 Posted January 20, 2022 Posted January 20, 2022 Another stat that I don't really see discussed is that Josh Allen has the 4th highest career postseason passer rating in league history. This is interesting considering that it is though of that Josh has not been a good playoff performer which is not true. 3 3 Quote
HappyDays Posted January 20, 2022 Posted January 20, 2022 No surprise. If Josh Allen has a signature move, it's evading a single free rusher and rolling right and throwing a dime down field. 1 Quote
Carptom1 Posted January 20, 2022 Posted January 20, 2022 20 minutes ago, Protocal69 said: Another stat that I don't really see discussed is that Josh Allen has the 4th highest career postseason passer rating in league history. This is interesting considering that it is though of that Josh has not been a good playoff performer which is not true. Did you notice who #1 was? Quote
MJS Posted January 20, 2022 Posted January 20, 2022 The only chance to beat Josh Allen is to drop into coverage and get pressure with four rushing. You have to have excellent discipline on defense. Josh usually evades the first rusher, so you have to get pressure with two or more players. Even then, you have to kind of hope Allen is having one of his off days. The story is kind of the same with Mahomes, actually, but Mahomes is not the threat that Allen is on the ground. Mahomes benefits from really good play calling and creativity on offense too, though, so both guys are tough to handle. You don't blitz them much, though, and you don't try too much man coverage. Quote
Doc Posted January 20, 2022 Posted January 20, 2022 3 hours ago, Gene1973 said: He moves in the pocket when he doesn't need to, wasting motion etc. However, it seems to work for him. Got this from the JT O'Sullivan video: Quote Josh has mentioned that some of that "unnecessary movement" he does in the pocket has to do with him reading the pass rush with his peripheral and making slight adjustments to his position to give his O-Lineman a better opportunity to maintain their blocks 2 Quote
HappyDays Posted January 20, 2022 Posted January 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson said: Another accolade for Josh Allen. He got rid of his Justin Bieber haircut. 1 Quote
1ManRaid Posted January 20, 2022 Posted January 20, 2022 From what I've read from Chiefs fans on their forums and Twitter, the game plan to shut down Allen is simple. All they have to do is blitz Allen...while keeping a spy on him...while playing zone...while double teaming Diggs. It's just that easy! Jeezy, it's almost like they want Beasley and McKenzie to combine for like 30 catches and 300 yards. That or somehow have like 13 or 14 men on defense to pull it off. They were also bragging about how this reffing crew is going to allow their DBs to get away with holding our receivers all day, so there's that too. 1 Quote
Scott7975 Posted January 20, 2022 Posted January 20, 2022 1 hour ago, 1ManRaid said: From what I've read from Chiefs fans on their forums and Twitter, the game plan to shut down Allen is simple. All they have to do is blitz Allen...while keeping a spy on him...while playing zone...while double teaming Diggs. It's just that easy! Jeezy, it's almost like they want Beasley and McKenzie to combine for like 30 catches and 300 yards. That or somehow have like 13 or 14 men on defense to pull it off. They were also bragging about how this reffing crew is going to allow their DBs to get away with holding our receivers all day, so there's that too. Are they hoping the refs overlook 14 men on the field on defense? 1 Quote
1ManRaid Posted January 20, 2022 Posted January 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: Are they hoping the refs overlook 14 men on the field on defense? Well they're already confident the defensive holding will get overlooked, as in the Bucs game. Quote
SydneyBillsFan Posted January 20, 2022 Posted January 20, 2022 13 hours ago, Doc said: That must have really hurt them to have to admit that. The stats team came in on Collinsworth's day off. Quote
Matt_In_NH Posted January 20, 2022 Posted January 20, 2022 Is this when blitzed or "under pressure". When I think back to some of the losses, Pitt, Jags....there was pressure and it was successful but that may have been more 4 man pressure. I am not disagreeing that he is good under pressure but I have seen it work. Josh does really well against a blitzer, just side stepping them. I think the only way to slow down these great QB's is to mix things up and disguise well. Quote
clayboy54 Posted January 20, 2022 Posted January 20, 2022 13 hours ago, Gene1973 said: He moves in the pocket when he doesn't need to, wasting motion etc. However, it seems to work for him. and, YOU can turn a conversation from positive to negative when you don't need to. However, it seems to work for you. Quote
Protocal69 Posted January 23, 2022 Posted January 23, 2022 On 1/19/2022 at 10:00 PM, Carptom1 said: Did you notice who #1 was? Patty Mahomes. He has never lost a playoff to anyone other than Tom Brad. Lets change that on Sunday Quote
gonzo1105 Posted January 23, 2022 Posted January 23, 2022 On 1/20/2022 at 12:11 AM, 1ManRaid said: From what I've read from Chiefs fans on their forums and Twitter, the game plan to shut down Allen is simple. All they have to do is blitz Allen...while keeping a spy on him...while playing zone...while double teaming Diggs. It's just that easy! Jeezy, it's almost like they want Beasley and McKenzie to combine for like 30 catches and 300 yards. That or somehow have like 13 or 14 men on defense to pull it off. They were also bragging about how this reffing crew is going to allow their DBs to get away with holding our receivers all day, so there's that too. If you are blitzing and having a spy and doubling Diggs how in the world can you play zone. Sounds like uneducated fans talking out their backsides. So let’s say they blitz 6 and have a spy that leaves 4 in coverage. Okay double diggs. That would mean literally one of the Bills WRs is legitimately not even being guarded. The Chiefs are gonna stick with the same model that they have done the whole second half of the season. Robber coverage with their safeties and then on 3rd down bring the house and play cover 1 or cover zero. It got them burned vs Cinci but since Pittsburgh had a QB with no arm they feasted in them Quote
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