Buffalo Junction Posted January 19, 2022 Posted January 19, 2022 4 hours ago, Gene1973 said: Edmunds lol. Bracketing Kelce with Edmunds and a db isn’t the worst idea…. Jam him at the line and stick him between Milano/Edmunds and Johnson/Neal could work well. Particularly if they jam him at the LOS and treat Kelce like a blocker within 5 yards. 1 hour ago, Paul Costa said: Will be a group effort. Need to muddle rush Mahomes much more than Pittsburgh. They let him outside way too much. He slaughtered them once leaving the pocket Groot and Epenesa will help with this. Their length/height created issues for him scrambling outside and hitting dump offs/screens outside. Quote
LABILLBACKER Posted January 19, 2022 Posted January 19, 2022 13 hours ago, muppy said: putting Edmunds soley on Kelce scares me...........how effective would that be...*cringe* I dunno.............I could be wrong it would be awesome if he could somehow pull it off....Kelce is one of those players he's gonna get his yards one way or the other...the key for me is pressure on Mahomes and limit the damage by dominating the trenches and harassing mahomes as Much as possible. m Trust me, when I suggested this I cringed too. I just don't see anyone else on this team who compares in size and speed. If you don't jam him at the line, it won't matter who covers him. Maybe Josh can cover him? 2 Quote
billsfan1959 Posted January 19, 2022 Posted January 19, 2022 Kelce will make some plays. The key in this game will be the same as the game earlier this year: Limit his YAC. Not just Kelce, but all the receivers. Mahomes was 1st in the NFL in YAC this year with 2699 Yds (56% of his total passing yards). If the Bills can keep the receivers in front of them and limit YAC, then I think they win. I think this matters much less on the Bills' side. Allen was 17th in the NFL this year in YAC with 1743 Yds (39% of his total passing yards). FWIW, Brady, Burrow, Rodgers, Stafford, Prescott, Garoppolo, and Roethlisberger were all in the top 10 in YAC. Only Brady and Stafford threw for more yds prior to YAC than Allen. 1 1 Quote
bigduke6 Posted January 19, 2022 Posted January 19, 2022 15 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said: Kelce 6-5, 255, 4.61 (40) Edmunds 6-5, 253, 4.54 (40) If Tremaine is such a world class coverage linebacker, then let him be the hero by playing TK man all day. Chuck him at the line. dunno if Tremaine is world class man to man tho. hes more of a zone guy imo. will help whoever is covering Kelce alot if they, CHIP him on every friggen play. boggles my mind when i see teams let top end pass catching TEs just run free off the line. Gronk has made a living offa it for years. recievers hate being chipped. Quote
Ethan in Cleveland Posted January 19, 2022 Posted January 19, 2022 Best way to try to stop elite TEs is with corners not linebackers. Edmunds can't cover Kelce and you don't want your MLB split out wide. They will play zone with a safety over the top of Hill most of the time. Quote
HomeTeam Posted January 19, 2022 Posted January 19, 2022 45 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: Kelce will make some plays. The key in this game will be the same as the game earlier this year: Limit his YAC. Not just Kelce, but all the receivers. Mahomes was 1st in the NFL in YAC this year with 2699 Yds (56% of his total passing yards). If the Bills can keep the receivers in front of them and limit YAC, then I think they win. I think this matters much less on the Bills' side. Allen was 17th in the NFL this year in YAC with 1743 Yds (39% of his total passing yards). FWIW, Brady, Burrow, Rodgers, Stafford, Prescott, Garoppolo, and Roethlisberger were all in the top 10 in YAC. Only Brady and Stafford threw for more yds prior to YAC than Allen. It would be nice for the Bills to pick up a few speed guys at WR who can generate more after the catch. We are always doing it the hard way. 1 Quote
LABILLBACKER Posted January 19, 2022 Posted January 19, 2022 55 minutes ago, bigduke6 said: dunno if Tremaine is world class man to man tho. hes more of a zone guy imo. will help whoever is covering Kelce alot if they, CHIP him on every friggen play. boggles my mind when i see teams let top end pass catching TEs just run free off the line. Gronk has made a living offa it for years. recievers hate being chipped. The "world class" was tongue in cheek. 1 Quote
LABILLBACKER Posted January 19, 2022 Posted January 19, 2022 16 minutes ago, HomeTeam said: It would be nice for the Bills to pick up a few speed guys at WR who can generate more after the catch. We are always doing it the hard way. Unfortunately guys like Stefon and Cole seem to go down quickly after the catch. Regardless of who covers Kelce, first its imperative to jam him at the LOS. Then keep him in front of you with support. It's when he's galloping across the center of the field that kills you. Be prepared for those stupid shovel passes inside the 10. 1 Quote
Special K Posted January 24, 2022 Author Posted January 24, 2022 Unfortunately, on the biggest play of the season, the answer to my question was: NOBODY!!! How is that even possible?? A game the Bills should have won. 1 Quote
Aussie Joe Posted January 24, 2022 Posted January 24, 2022 Tragic... To balance though . Somehow the Chiefs kept ignoring Davis? 1 Quote
Milanos Milano Posted January 24, 2022 Posted January 24, 2022 33 minutes ago, motorj said: No White, no chance Tend to agree with this. We need to draft a CB to help White and as an emergency in case someone gets hurt. Quote
GETTOTHE50 Posted January 24, 2022 Posted January 24, 2022 Ive mentioned this in training camp, but Tremaine needed to study guarding Kelce atleast two hours per day. He's the only one on the team with the size and speed to keep up with him. If he studied his routes and tendencies and covered him 1 on 1, then tremaine could be worth something to this team. Quote
Milanos Milano Posted January 24, 2022 Posted January 24, 2022 Just now, GETTOTHE50 said: Ive mentioned this in training camp, but Tremaine needed to study guarding Kelce atleast two hours per day. He's the only one on the team with the size and speed to keep up with him. If he studied his routes and tendencies and covered him 1 on 1, then tremaine could be worth something to this team. It’s not happening. Edmunds doesn’t have the instincts necessary to do so. I actually made it a priority to watch him specifically on defensive plays. He often stays flat footed and makes poor coverage choices. One play he went out to the flat to guard somebody that was nearly inconsequential to the developing play. He makes tackles to far off the LOS. Rarely do you ever see him stick someone for a short gain. Quote
GETTOTHE50 Posted January 24, 2022 Posted January 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said: It’s not happening. Edmunds doesn’t have the instincts necessary to do so. I actually made it a priority to watch him specifically on defensive plays. He often stays flat footed and makes poor coverage choices. One play he went out to the flat to guard somebody that was nearly inconsequential to the developing play. He makes tackles to far off the LOS. Rarely do you ever see him stick someone for a short gain. 100%. Im just trying to find a way to make Tremaine useful and successful, and I think preparing everyday for Kelce would have helped him succeed to today. But I agree, he sucks. Quote
Milanos Milano Posted January 24, 2022 Posted January 24, 2022 4 minutes ago, GETTOTHE50 said: 100%. Im just trying to find a way to make Tremaine useful and successful, and I think preparing everyday for Kelce would have helped him succeed to today. But I agree, he sucks. I know you are trying, but at the end of the day he sucks. I can sit here and study quantum mechanics for 2 hours a day, and by the end of the year, I’m still not going to be able to do it. We need to start drafting better LBs with instincts and speed. Otherwise we will not be able to beat teams like the Chiefs. Quote
Not at the table Karlos Posted January 24, 2022 Posted January 24, 2022 Coming out of a timeout on the games most important play. Nobody covered him 1 Quote
billsfan714 Posted January 24, 2022 Posted January 24, 2022 There are guys in Belarus who have never seen american football who probably have better instincts than Tremaine Edmunds. The 6-5 250 lber with 4.5 speed that you never see make a play and sure as crap could never cover Kelce. 1 Quote
ehfeuh57 Posted January 24, 2022 Posted January 24, 2022 Absolutely NO ONE on the last play of regulation Wallace decided to run back with him but 8 feet next to him and covering no one instead of covering Kelce 2 years in a row of horrid D against KC in playoffs Quote
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