Micah Hydes Interception

[PatsFanNH]

20 hours ago, billsfan1959 said:

 

I thought it was a good throw by Jones and if Hyde doesn't make a fantastic play, it is a TD. I also think Jones did a good job with the pump fake to slow the corner. But I also think he looked toward his receiver the whole time and put just a little too much air under the ball, allowing Hyde to get there in time. I actually am one who thinks Jones played well as a rookie and is going to be a good QB in this league. If you watch the throw from the endzone (All 22) you will see what I mean. A little harder throw and lower trajectory and Hyde doesn't get there. Like I said, I like Jones and it is a minor criticism regarding a couple things that, IMO, made the difference between it being a really good throw and being a great throw.

For a rookie I considered it a great throw just because he is a rookie..  My point to all the detractors is simple It was the right call and it wasn’t such a poor throw that just “anyone” could have picked it. Hyde showed why he was special.. he’ll all game he was special.. (the punt return as well) 

[Shaw66]

18 hours ago, Chicken Boo said:

 

You need to watch a Deion Sanders highlight reel.  

Great comment.   I mean, it was a great play by Hyde.  Beautiful.  Perfect.   But he isn't the only guy who's ever made a play like that.  

 

I disliked Sanders.  He was a jerk.  But he was an absolutely extraordinary athlete who dedicated himself to developing his cover skills.  Hyde is dedicated like Sanders was, but Sanders brought athleticism to his craft that Hyde only can dream of. 

 

And, on the question of whether Jones made a good throw, yes, he can make the throw he needs to make, he can learn to look off defenders, he can learn to recognize defenses (Allen's throw to Sanders, there was no way the safety was coming over the top - it was pure one on one), yes, Jones can learn to do all that, and I think he will, but on Saturday night he showed that he hadn't yet learned it, and that's why it was a bad throw.  

[Sharky7337]

How this wasn't on you got mossed is a crime

[Robert Paulson]

On 1/20/2022 at 1:14 PM, Shaw66 said:

Yes, it was a sure fire TD, but it wasn't a great pass.  Jones's job is to evaluate the window and get the ball there before the window closes.   Either he didn't see Hyde at all, or he misjudged how long it would take Hyde to cover the ground.  Either way, Jones threw deep into double coverage when he wasn't supposed to.  That's on him, all day long.   It's his job to evaluate the situation.   Single coverage, yes, you take the chance.  Double coverage, no, unless you are sure, sure, you will get the ball there before the window closes.  

 

I was sitting in the stadium watching the ball, and it was in the air a LONG time.  Allen's touchdown to Sanders was the exact same distance in the same corner of the same end zone, and Hyde wouldn't have come within three strides of Allen's ball.   If Jones wants to be the man in the NFL, he has to throw the ball with more velocity.   If he can't throw it with any more velocity, then he has to know that he can't get that ball into that window.  As Clint Eastwood famously said, "a man's got to know his limitations." 

mckorkle has a noodle arm= INT 

 

the ball hung in the air too long- simple as that

 

mckorkle knew what he wanted to do, he will learn to look off the safety but he will probably never have the arm to make that throw look easy like QB1 does

[Shaw66]

14 minutes ago, Robert Paulson said:

mckorkle has a noodle arm= INT 

 

the ball hung in the air too long- simple as that

 

mckorkle knew what he wanted to do, he will learn to look off the safety but he will probably never have the arm to make that throw look easy like QB1 does

I don't think he had a horrible arm.  I can imagine him being a thrower like Andy Dalton as he develops.   But you're right, he'll never make that throw look easy.   If he learns his craft, he will learn to do the little things that will make him either not make the throw at all, or look off the safety, or release it a little earlier.  

 

But, and I think you agree, just because the ball was coming down perfectly into Agholar's hands doesn't mean it was a good throw.  His job is to get the ball there before the defender gets there, and he failed at his job. 

 

It's got to be discouraging to Jones to look at the film of his throw and then look at Allen's throw to Sanders and realize that there are some things he just never will do on a football field. 

Edited January 21, 2022 by Shaw66

[Hapless Bills Fan]

1 hour ago, PatsFanNH said:

For a rookie I considered it a great throw just because he is a rookie..  My point to all the detractors is simple It was the right call and it wasn’t such a poor throw that just “anyone” could have picked it. Hyde showed why he was special.. he’ll all game he was special.. (the punt return as well) 

 

 

If Mac had put the ball in a different place, Hyde wouldn't have had a chance at it.

[Robert Paulson]

59 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:

I don't think he had a horrible arm.  I can imagine him being a thrower like Andy Dalton as he develops.   But you're right, he'll never make that throw look easy.   If he learns his craft, he will learn to do the little things that will make him either not make the throw at all, or look off the safety, or release it a little earlier.  

 

But, and I think you agree, just because the ball was coming down perfectly into Agholar's hands doesn't mean it was a good throw.  His job is to get the ball there before the defender gets there, and he failed at his job. 

 

It's got to be discouraging to Jones to look at the film of his throw and then look at Allen's throw to Sanders and realize that there are some things he just never will do on a football field. 

roughly 5 seconds in the air vs Josh roughly 3.5 seconds. INT vs TD

[muppy]

I have a personal list of favorite Bills plays ever...I cant make it a top 10 because none of them are any less special it just keeeps going.......... @oldmanfanwas at a game as was I, I was in the batavia party zone endzone ..Monday night football Bills-Raiders when Ahmad Rashad caught game winning TD and the stadium went NUTS...Shaking from people just jumping up and down cheering..it was electric...in my mind being at highmark last week must have been just as Nuts.......I really think so 🙂

Edited January 21, 2022 by muppy

[Shaw66]

21 minutes ago, muppy said:

I have a personal list of favorite Bills plays ever...I cant make it a top 10 because none of them are any less special it just keeeps going.......... @oldmanfanwas at a game as was I, I was in the batavia party zone endzone ..Monday night football Bills-Raiders when Ahmad Rashad caught game winning TD and the stadium went NUTS...Shaking from people just jumping up and down cheering..it was electric...in my mind being at highmark last week must have been just as Nuts.......I really think so 🙂

I couldn't go to sleep that night.  Woke up my wife and told her she wouldn't believe what just happened.  She went back to sleep. 

 

Saturday night was unlike any game I'd ever gone to.  It was absolutely electric.  

35 minutes ago, Robert Paulson said:

roughly 5 seconds in the air vs Josh roughly 3.5 seconds. INT vs TD

Zactly.  

[muppy]

1 minute ago, Shaw66 said:

I couldn't go to sleep that night.  Woke up my wife and told her she wouldn't believe what just happened.  She went back to sleep. 

 

Saturday night was unlike any game I'd ever gone to.  It was absolutely electric.  

Zactly.  

Im glad u were able to witness it...unreal.......my favorite Bills experience ever was the eruption after he caught that TD...right in front of me :-)))))))))))

[DrPJax]

On 1/16/2022 at 1:39 AM, SUNTANBILLS FAN said:

This was the best I’ve seen all year 

That play may have set the whole tone of the playoffs for this team !   From giving up a disappointing TD in the very next possession after we scored on a pass Josh was throwing away , to then deflating the Pats as we quickly went up 14-0 after the pick , forcing them to begin to abandon the thought of just running the ball again !  It set the tone , momentum of the game quickly and things snowballed.  My only concern with that pic is look how badly Wallace was beaten in that picture !  Imagine how Hill , kelce may take advantage of that coverage if given the scenario of being covered in man coverage bu Wallace or Jackson !?  This is the type of game that the QB will be more accurate and the receivers more experienced than the Pats receivers and there won’t be the severe weather conditions that may have influenced some drops by the Pats by wide open guys.  We got lots of breaks that game ,even tho I believe the game Showed the true talent difference between us and the Pats right now!  That talent gap won’t be there playing the Chiefs in  their home, and the episodes of broken coverages we saw at times by the Bills won’t go unpunished in all likelihood.  
 

Great pick by Hyde and one of the most athletic plays I have ever seen a Bills db make !  I just hope that picture is not a forewarning of what the Chiefs may do against our dbs without Tre back there taking at least one of those guys out of their game !   There were plays that the Pats blew I think given the pressure of the playoffs and the crazy weather , and the Chiefs have been there, done that already and  hopefully the play of Hyde /poyer continues to cover up the huge hole present in our. Coverage created by Tres absence !  

[Ralonzo]

On 1/20/2022 at 12:07 AM, Shaw66 said:

Meet my friend Taron Johnson.

Granted that was huge, and I love how unnoticed that the first guy dapping Taron up in the end zone is Zimmer, don’t count that guy out next year, for his position he has elite speed.

 

However I do have to give the nod to Hyde for how magical that pick was that nobody even believed it happened as evidenced by Portnoy’s crew:

 

 

I’ve been watching this multiple times a day since it happened.

 

And it gets funnier EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.

[Since1981]

On 1/20/2022 at 4:04 PM, skibum said:

Levi Wallace was burnt to a crisp on that play! He should give Hyde his game check

Unfortunately, I believe the KC game will be specifically decided by how Wallace plays (or is helped). 

[AlfaBill]

8 hours ago, Robert Paulson said:

mckorkle has a noodle arm= INT 

 

the ball hung in the air too long- simple as that

 

mckorkle knew what he wanted to do, he will learn to look off the safety but he will probably never have the arm to make that throw look easy like QB1 does

I contend the ball was under thrown. Had Mac placed it 3 yards deeper the receiver is the only one who can make a play on it. 
stiil great play by Hyde. 

[Ethan in Cleveland]

On 1/16/2022 at 12:29 AM, Utah John said:

The key thing about that interception was that it denied the Pats the chance to think they could win.  The Bills had taken the opening kickoff and driven the field, scoring their first TD.  The Pats did not move the ball as easily as the Bills had, but they did move it, and that TD the Pats didn't score suddenly drained all the juice out of their offense -- they all started feeling really cold and not very interested.  And their defense played like zombies the whole game.  As time went on the Pats on the field kept looking fondly at the sidelines and the parkas.  

 

The cold was a real problem for the Pats but the Bills seemed completely unfazed.  It turned out the open air stadium DOES give the Bills an advantage.  

When did New England start playing in a dome?

[Shaw66]

10 hours ago, Ralonzo said:

Granted that was huge, and I love how unnoticed that the first guy dapping Taron up in the end zone is Zimmer, don’t count that guy out next year, for his position he has elite speed.

 

However I do have to give the nod to Hyde for how magical that pick was that nobody even believed it happened as evidenced by Portnoy’s crew:

 

 

I’ve been watching this multiple times a day since it happened.

 

And it gets funnier EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.

That video is fabulous.  That guy is obviously a good football fan, taking it all in, and we all know that kind of disappointment.  So cool how as they're watching they can see it's a touchdown, it's a touchdown, it's a touchdown!   Wait, what?   

 

One thing that surprises me is how so many people thought Agholar caught it or it was incomplete.  From where I was in the stadium, the only question was whether Hyde got his feet down and held the ball when he hit the ground - it was obvious he'd caught it.   

 

As far as the greatest, I'll just repeat what I've said before.   Best INT in Bills history?  Yes, probably.  Probably one of the best in the history of the league.  Greatest?   No.  Twenty years from now, looking back, Bills fans will STILL be talking about Bill Simpson's INT to clinch the playoff game against the Jets in 1981, and they STILL will be talking about Johnson's game-winner against the Ravens, and they STILL will be talking about Josh Allen and the offense against the Patriots.  Hyde's catch, spectacular as it was, will be a footnote. 

 

I put Hyde's catch in the same category as McGee's kickoff return against the Saints and Beebe's play in the Super Bowl - one of the greatest plays ever made by a Buffalo Bill.   

10 hours ago, AlfaBill said:

I contend the ball was under thrown. Had Mac placed it 3 yards deeper the receiver is the only one who can make a play on it. 
stiil great play by Hyde. 

When you look at the stills in this thread, you can see that the ball is dropping in over the receiver's shoulder right into his hands.   That is exactly where the receiver wants the ball.  It was perfect.  Now, maybe the receiver slowed down a bit to get the ball in that position, in which case you're right.  But he didn't slow down much.   Throw it much deeper and, yes, Hyde can't make the play, but the catch gets tougher for the receiver.  Three yards deep, the receiver has to lay out.  

 

It's all fun to talk about, but in the end it doesn't matter what we say.  Every time we watch the replay, it just gets better!

[TBBills]

11 hours ago, Ralonzo said:

Granted that was huge, and I love how unnoticed that the first guy dapping Taron up in the end zone is Zimmer, don’t count that guy out next year, for his position he has elite speed.

 

However I do have to give the nod to Hyde for how magical that pick was that nobody even believed it happened as evidenced by Portnoy’s crew:

 

 

I’ve been watching this multiple times a day since it happened.

 

And it gets funnier EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.

"That's bad for the over..."

Well,  at least the over still hit for that one guy.

Edited January 22, 2022 by TBBills

[Shaw66]

8 minutes ago, TBBills said:

"That's bad for the over..."

Well,  at least the over still hit for that one guy.

Yeah, I loved that.   Guy's a Patriots fan, and his first reaction is that his bet is going down the shitter.  That's why I don't bet on games, and particularly not on Bills games.  

[Saxum]

21 hours ago, Shaw66 said:

I couldn't go to sleep that night.  Woke up my wife and told her she wouldn't believe what just happened.  She went back to sleep. 

 

Same with my wife but I also told her I should have gone to game even if she was worried about me driving alone.

Her response "I am still not driving you even if there is another playoff game." and went back to sleep.

15 hours ago, Ralonzo said:

Granted that was huge, and I love how unnoticed that the first guy dapping Taron up in the end zone is Zimmer, don’t count that guy out next year, for his position he has elite speed.

 

However I do have to give the nod to Hyde for how magical that pick was that nobody even believed it happened as evidenced by Portnoy’s crew:

 

It is not shown during most replays but Zimmer was also blocking off players who were trying to catch Taron.  One of them gave up trying to get past Zimmer.

[Ethan in Cleveland]

15 hours ago, Ralonzo said:

Granted that was huge, and I love how unnoticed that the first guy dapping Taron up in the end zone is Zimmer, don’t count that guy out next year, for his position he has elite speed.

 

However I do have to give the nod to Hyde for how magical that pick was that nobody even believed it happened as evidenced by Portnoy’s crew:

 

 

I’ve been watching this multiple times a day since it happened.

 

And it gets funnier EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.

What a great video. At least they are recognizing it was a great play. I love the line, its about to be over...that was the second drive of the game and first possession for the Pats