billsfan_34 Posted January 16, 2022 Posted January 16, 2022 53 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: Allen was on fire all night! I had a little hope when they were getting pressure on the first drive but then he scrambled for like 60 yards on that drive.. The night was over on the very first drive by NE when Hyde made a highlight reel interception. (I was impressed as a football fan and depressed as a Pats fan by it lol) Bills stomped a mud hole in my Pats and well good luck the rest of the way. (This was meant as congratulations, I don’t want to talk about Mac Jones.. you want to tell me the Pats D is garbage I won’t argue after tonight.) Thanks for being classy and see ya next year- cheers bro! 1 Quote
Wacka Posted January 16, 2022 Posted January 16, 2022 47 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: Practice? My grandmother would have given the Bills a tougher time.. and she been dead for 20 years!! Lol (sorry that just went threw my head when you said that.. lol) Betty White could have played better. 3 1 Quote
PatsFanNH Posted January 16, 2022 Author Posted January 16, 2022 1 minute ago, mikemac2001 said: I like a lot of your posts I think your fair on both sides but Josh did this - Josh put in the work and I think he could do this in any system as long as they believed and gave him chance That’s just it I don’t think the Pats would have ever drafted him out of college. It isn’t their kind of QB… more of a knock on my teams coaches than Allen lol. 2 1 1 Quote
SinceThe70s Posted January 16, 2022 Posted January 16, 2022 Just now, PatsFanNH said: That was on target and in stride, put a little more on it and it’s overthrown.. Aghalor had like a step in him. It really doesn’t matter lol because it was a great play by Hyde to pick it.. most safeties and CB can’t do that! On target and in stride could have happened before Hyde got there with a stronger throw IMO. 1 Quote
PatsFanNH Posted January 16, 2022 Author Posted January 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said: On target and in stride could have happened before Hyde got there with a stronger throw IMO. Maybe, but again not an INT I would be upset at looking at in the locker room as a coach. That was a great D play.. 2 Quote
Ghost_002! Posted January 16, 2022 Posted January 16, 2022 7 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said: On target and in stride could have happened before Hyde got there with a stronger throw IMO. There was nothing wrong w that throw. It was a great play made by Hyde. Not every throw will be perfect by a QB sometimes the defender makes a better play. 1 1 Quote
Jackalope89 Posted January 16, 2022 Posted January 16, 2022 6 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: Pal, you have no clue what you are talking about. Josh his rookie year could have won as many games with the Pats roster this year. To say Belichick and McDaniels couldn’t develop Josh is just dumb. Well, outside of Brady, Bill-boy hasn't had much luck with QBs. And as a Wyoming fan... Systems most definitely can alter QBs. Josh going into the NFL had bad footwork and very used to hero ball and taking off. The latter kind of helped that first year in Buffalo, but at Wyoming, it was and still is, a "ground and pound" style offense. Well, its supposed to be, but, well, yeah. And because of that, Josh had all the physical ability, but practically no finesse. His screen passing was sadly, about non-existant. Really, his short passing game, even to wide open guys, was 50/50 at best. My first post, after a couple of years of being lurker, and its something like this. Who knew? 4 Quote
SinceThe70s Posted January 16, 2022 Posted January 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, Ghost_002! said: There was nothing wrong w that throw. It was a great play made by Hyde. Not every throw will be perfect by a QB sometimes the defender makes a better play. Bolded is true, but that's not my point. Under the same circumstances some QB's get the throw there before the defender. That throw was a rainbow and allowed Hyde to close and make the great play he made. 2 Quote
Ghost_002! Posted January 16, 2022 Posted January 16, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said: Bolded is true, but that's not my point. Under the same circumstances some QB's get the throw there before the defender. That throw was a rainbow and allowed Hyde to close and make the great play he made. Again nothing was wrong with that throw. If you go back and watch the whole play 1. You would see the effort Hyde put it in just to get there...cause the throw was that good. 2. The angle and distance Jones had to throw that ball..it was exactly right and hit the receiver in stride... As I said...not every throw will ever be perfect or I should say not every int is cause the QB throws a bad ball. The defender made a great play, a game changer...Jones threw a very good ball. Edited January 16, 2022 by Ghost_002! 2 1 Quote
atlbillsfan1975 Posted January 16, 2022 Posted January 16, 2022 7 minutes ago, Jackalope89 said: Well, outside of Brady, Bill-boy hasn't had much luck with QBs. And as a Wyoming fan... Systems most definitely can alter QBs. Josh going into the NFL had bad footwork and very used to hero ball and taking off. The latter kind of helped that first year in Buffalo, but at Wyoming, it was and still is, a "ground and pound" style offense. Well, its supposed to be, but, well, yeah. And because of that, Josh had all the physical ability, but practically no finesse. His screen passing was sadly, about non-existant. Really, his short passing game, even to wide open guys, was 50/50 at best. My first post, after a couple of years of being lurker, and its something like this. Who knew? True. Thanks for your post, I like hearing from Wyoming fans. My point to that Pats fan was this: how can someone be a great coach if they can’t develop or coach someone up? McDaniels has been an OC for 18 years with NE. I find it hard to believe that McDaniels and Belichick wouldn’t want Josh. Sounds more like someone who is a blind loyalist. 1 Quote
atlbillsfan1975 Posted January 16, 2022 Posted January 16, 2022 Just now, Ghost_002! said: Again noting was wrong with that throw. If you go back and watch thr whole play 1. You would see the effort Hyde put it just to get there... 2. The angle and distance Jones had to throw that ball..it exactly right and hit the receiver in stride. As I said...not every throw will ever perfect or I should say not every int is cause the QB throws a bad ball. The defender made a great play, a game changer...Jones threw a very good ball. If he throws that ball with less air it doesn’t get picked off. Go back and watch how Josh Allen throws the ball, you will understand better. 3 Quote
Ghost_002! Posted January 16, 2022 Posted January 16, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: If he throws that ball with less air it doesn’t get picked off. Go back and watch how Josh Allen throws the ball, you will understand better. If he throws it with less air the corner thst Alghor beats catches up and knocks the ball away. (or picks it off himself) The throw was literally going to hit Alghor in the bread basket..in stride no adjustment by him was ever going to be needed Edited January 16, 2022 by Ghost_002! 1 1 Quote
Ghost_002! Posted January 16, 2022 Posted January 16, 2022 (edited) Not a bad throw at all. Edited January 16, 2022 by Ghost_002! 1 2 Quote
Bubba Gump Posted January 16, 2022 Posted January 16, 2022 Thanks for the post PFNH, but the Pats aren't going anywhere with that Gumby armed QB. No matter who the HC is. 1 Quote
K-9 Posted January 16, 2022 Posted January 16, 2022 1 hour ago, ControllerOfPlanetX said: Didn’t see any shots of the Krafts in their box...I wonder why? Robert was still holding out hope for that “happy ending.” Quote
atlbillsfan1975 Posted January 16, 2022 Posted January 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, Ghost_002! said: Not a bad throw at all. Maybe I am spoiled watching Josh throw the ball so much better. 2 Quote
Rick 'r Mortis Posted January 16, 2022 Posted January 16, 2022 18 minutes ago, Real McNasty said: 1 Quote
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