Do you want Daboll to leave for a HC job?

[YoloinOhio]

Is your mind made up on what you want to have happen with Daboll or will it all depend on tonight (and potentially the rest of the playoff run)? He’s been here 4 years and the entirety of Allen’s career thus far so it seems like his body of work would provide the sample size as a fan to determine whether you want him to stay or go. But does it more depend on what happens now?

 

he’s not a shoe in for one of these jobs, especially if they lose tonight/the offense looks bad, and because of Flores getting thrown into the mix as another candidate. Even Jim Caldwell is now being interviewed for the Bears. 

Edited January 15, 2022 by YoloinOhio

[NewEra]

Considering that we’re probably going to lose Frazier (and maybe Dorsey with him) along with schoen has me thinking it’s in our best interests that he stays one more year.  That said, let’s see how he calls these very important games

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

I mean. He’s improved his 4th and 14 play calls 

 

but why wait until December to Run the ball 🏈 

 

[ArtVandalay]

McDermott is clueless with offense,  God no we need Dabol in the worst way. I don't trust Dorsey at all.

[billybob71]

I believe Allen will be fine either way

[NewEra]

2 minutes ago, ArtVandalay said:

McDermott is clueless with offense,  God no we need Dabol in the worst way. I don't trust Dorsey at all.

Dorsey might leave too. If Frazier is hired before Daboll, we could lose all 3

[YoloinOhio]

2 minutes ago, billybob71 said:

I believe Allen will be fine either way

 I would like to see better. I love him but he needs to keep improving for sure

[gjv001]

I believe he deserves a shot at being a HC, and I wish him well. But I will be sorry to see him go.

[billybob71]

Just now, YoloinOhio said:

 I would like to see better. I love him but he needs to keep improving for sure

let me rephrase, i think Allen will continue to improve with or without Daboll, he was good for Josh early on but now with Allen beginning to enter the veteran phase of his career he knows what he gotta do to keep it going.

[Chandler#81]

My preference, Stay.

 

But I think we get raided big time this year, unfortunately..

[Buffalo_Stampede]

Opinions might change after the game.

[Steptide]

Daboll's redzone play calling is what drives me the most crazy. I don't get the obsession running on 2nd down in the redzone. In 2019 (if anyone remembers) he was much more creative in the redzone. Granted the bills had less talent then, but I feel like he should still be a bit more creative in the redzone 

[Not at the table Karlos]

I said yes. I'd want to keep him if he could learn from his mistakes but he hasn't really shown the ability to do that. He will have a game or two where he shows improvement but will go back to head scratching calls again. 

[billybob71]

and if Josh does take it up another level? it ain't gonna matter, any competent OC will do the kid will be the top QB in the NFL

[GunnerBill]

I am totally ambivalent. I don't mind Daboll. Think he is a decent coordinator. Would not be at all upset to see him back. However, if he goes I don't think it will have some major effect on the offense so if he goes I'd just check with Josh what he wants to do and if that is promote Ken Dorsey, do that. 

[Not at the table Karlos]

10 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Dorsey might leave too. If Frazier is hired before Daboll, we could lose all 3

Dorsey is a McBeane guy tho. I don't think he makes a decision until our season is over unless he for some reason gets a HC job. 

[hondo in seattle]

We've had so many bad coordinators over the years, that I'm spectacularly thankful for Frazier and Daboll even while they both sometimes frustrate me.

 

Granted, Daboll has Allen to help him look good.  But Daboll is also working with a poor offensive line.  Yet the Bill have - again - one of the best offenses in the NFL.  I won't minimize that accomplishment.

 

19 minutes ago, ArtVandalay said:

McDermott is clueless with offense,  God no we need Dabol in the worst way. I don't trust Dorsey at all.

 

Just curious...  When was the last time you sat down with McDermott and talked to him about modern NFL offenses?   What criteria did you use to evaluate his expertise?  

 

Edited January 15, 2022 by hondo in seattle

[GunnerBill]

4 minutes ago, Steptide said:

Daboll's redzone play calling is what drives me the most crazy. I don't get the obsession running on 2nd down in the redzone. In 2019 (if anyone remembers) he was much more creative in the redzone. Granted the bills had less talent then, but I feel like he should still be a bit more creative in the redzone 

 

This was their best year in terms of redzone touchdown %. 7th in the NFL at 62.34%. 

 

I agree it hasn't always felt like that.

[78thealltimegreat]

Here’s the thing Daboll is a disciple of the Patriots Chris Simms has even called our offense Patriots light do to it’s concepts…

finding old Hoodie assistants to run a similar offense isn’t hard but I’m of the belief for Josh’s long term health to institute a shannahan like zone blocking scheme and use Josh’s play action skills more often 

[GunnerBill]

Just now, 78thealltimegreat said:

Here’s the thing Daboll is a disciple of the Patriots Chris Simms has even called our offense Patriots light do to it’s concepts…

finding old Hoodie assistants to run a similar offense isn’t hard but I’m of the belief for Josh’s long term health to institute a shannahan like zone blocking scheme and use Josh’s play action skills more often 

 

I disagree totally. I want Josh in a scheme that gives him maximum freedom and doesn't manufacture lots of half field reads which is what that Shanny scheme does.