John from Riverside Posted January 15, 2022 Posted January 15, 2022 This time of the year every team is beat up that’s the reason why if you can enter the playoffs healthy like we are it’s a huge bonus Quote
Malazan Posted January 15, 2022 Posted January 15, 2022 Isiah Wynn is their worst lineman by far. He's given up as many sacks as the rest of their lineman combined. 1 Quote
John from Riverside Posted January 15, 2022 Posted January 15, 2022 No let downs play them like they’re at full strength 1 Quote
Hsker4life Posted January 15, 2022 Posted January 15, 2022 6 minutes ago, Malazan said: Isiah Wynn is their worst lineman by far. He's given up as many sacks as the rest of their lineman combined. Then I wonder how bad his backup is. 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted January 15, 2022 Posted January 15, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Malazan said: Isiah Wynn is their worst lineman by far. He's given up as many sacks as the rest of their lineman combined. He is the weakest of their starters probably but Wynn is still a good player. The oline is the best unit on the Patriots. Shaq Mason is one of those elite guys that nobody talks about. The only guards I'd take over him are Quinten Nelson, Zack Martin and Joe Bitonio. Wynn is a better run blocker than pass blocker and part of that is he lacks the ideal length. He has short arms for a tackle and I actually had him projected as a guard coming out for that reason. Means he struggles to keep top end edge rushers wide. I would imagine without him Trent Brown moves across to the left side. He does have that length but as we saw when the Raiders paid him a fortune to be their left tackle he has clumsy and cumbersome feet. A guy like Jerry Hughes might be able to dip under and through his blocks. I would then imagine Onwenu will shift from guard outside to right tackle where he has played some this year and Ted Karras who is a vastly experienced interior lineman will come in at guard. Edited January 15, 2022 by GunnerBill 1 1 Quote
atlbillsfan1975 Posted January 15, 2022 Posted January 15, 2022 5 hours ago, Freddie's Dead said: I'm not buying any of it. How many times in the drought years did we hear about Cheats out on injury? Then the replacement(s) would have a career day against us and The Cheats would chalk up another win. I'll believe it when I see it. That was typically because they had Brady there to compensate. Not sure Jones is ready or able to do that. Guess we will see. 3 hours ago, John from Riverside said: No let downs play them like they’re at full strength With it being the playoffs, I really hope our guys are locked in and ready to go. Quote
YoloinOhio Posted January 15, 2022 Posted January 15, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, GunnerBill said: He is the weakest of their starters probably but Wynn is still a good player. The oline is the best unit on the Patriots. Shaq Mason is one of those elite guys that nobody talks about. The only guards I'd take over him are Quinten Nelson, Zack Martin and Joe Bitonio. Wynn is a better run blocker than pass blocker and part of that is he lacks the ideal length. He has short arms for a tackle and I actually had him projected as a guard coming out for that reason. Means he struggles to keep top end edge rushers wide. I would imagine without him Trent Brown moves across to the left side. He does have that length but as we saw when the Raiders paid him a fortune to be their left tackle he has clumsy and cumbersome feet. A guy like Jerry Hughes might be able to dip under and through his blocks. I would then imagine Onwenu will shift from guard outside to right tackle where he has played some this year and Ted Karras who is a vastly experienced interior lineman will come in at guard. Herron is going to play LT. Brown will stay at RT. This is what was reported, and how they’ve replaced Wynn in 3 other games this year. Allows the least disruption to the line. Imo that’s better conceptually than moving 3 guys to replace one which is what the Bills do. the pats are 1-2 with Herron at LT, and the win was a 3point squeaker over the Texans where they looked terrible. Edited January 15, 2022 by YoloinOhio 2 2 Quote
NewEra Posted January 15, 2022 Posted January 15, 2022 8 hours ago, Freddie's Dead said: I'm not buying any of it. How many times in the drought years did we hear about Cheats out on injury? Then the replacement(s) would have a career day against us and The Cheats would chalk up another win. I'll believe it when I see it. Dam Fred. You sound defeated my man. 1 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted January 15, 2022 Posted January 15, 2022 17 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Herron is going to play LT. Brown will stay at RT. This is what was reported, and how they’ve replaced Wynn in 3 other games this year. Allows the least disruption to the line. Imo that’s better conceptually than moving 3 guys to replace one which is what the Bills do. the pats are 1-2 with Herron at LT, and the win was a 3point squeaker over the Texans where they looked terrible. Hmm. Interesting. I'd have gone the way I said. It is a bonus for the Bills if Herron starts. He is bad. Quote
YoloinOhio Posted January 15, 2022 Posted January 15, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Hmm. Interesting. I'd have gone the way I said. It is a bonus for the Bills if Herron starts. He is bad. Maybe they will end up doing that, but it isn’t expected. Apparently Herron played well vs Miami (which doesn’t have much of a DL) Edited January 15, 2022 by YoloinOhio 1 Quote
co_springs_billsfan Posted January 15, 2022 Posted January 15, 2022 9 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Justin Herron played in place of Wynn almost the whole game last week as well as two games earlier this season, he’s expected to do the same tomorrow I hear ya and I probably agree that will happen. But I just had to take my shot at the Pats* Quote
BuffaloBill Posted January 15, 2022 Posted January 15, 2022 16 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: That’s hilarious….. Miyago-Do if I could have given you 100 reaction laughing emoji’s I would have done so….. winner^^^^ 1 Quote
Bookie Man Posted January 15, 2022 Posted January 15, 2022 Interesting. I woke up and saw the line moved half a point. Seems to be a lot coming in on Pats too. Quote
Doc Posted January 15, 2022 Posted January 15, 2022 11 hours ago, Turk71 said: For whatever it's worth Herron is rated 75th out of 85 on PFF Wynn ranked 30th big dropoff Belicheat got PFF to rate Herron worse, when he's really better. 4-D chess, ya know! 2 1 Quote
Nextmanup Posted January 15, 2022 Posted January 15, 2022 8 hours ago, Malazan said: Isiah Wynn is their worst lineman by far. He's given up as many sacks as the rest of their lineman combined. He's still a starter and this will disrupt how they do things on the OL. That has to be a big wynn for the Bills. Excuse the pun. Quote
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 15, 2022 Posted January 15, 2022 2 hours ago, BuffaloBill said: That’s hilarious….. Miyago-Do if I could have given you 100 reaction laughing emoji’s I would have done so….. winner^^^^ That’s pretty much the best compliment I have gotten on this board!! Quote
BrainwashedBillsFan Posted January 15, 2022 Posted January 15, 2022 Mills is out too, says didn’t travel with team per ESPN site. Is this accurate? Quote
Bigvinny Posted January 15, 2022 Posted January 15, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, BrainwashedBillsFan said: Mills is out too, says didn’t travel with team per ESPN site. Is this accurate? He was put on the covid list on Tuesday. Had to be activated by 4 PM yesterday. Also curious about Barmore. Was carted off the field last Sunday. Was at practice but he can't be close to 100 percent. Edited January 15, 2022 by Bigvinny 1 Quote
BrainwashedBillsFan Posted January 15, 2022 Posted January 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, Bigvinny said: He was put on the covid list on Tuesday. Had to be activated by 4 PM yesterday. Awesome thank you! Quote
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