Tiberius Posted January 14, 2022 Posted January 14, 2022 6 minutes ago, T master said: Exactly - I'm still waiting for a reply on the last one but the silence is defining . Gotta love it !! Last one what?
Chef Jim Posted January 14, 2022 Posted January 14, 2022 17 hours ago, Niagara Bill said: The split widens in political terms, the civility has been lost, I am right you are wrong is the only position. Imagining this could happen 50 years ago in the middle of the ending of Vietnam and Nixon was not possible. i take it you weren’t around 50 years ago. 1
Big Blitz Posted January 14, 2022 Posted January 14, 2022 Sweep them in to the ash heap of history. They're thugs.
Big Blitz Posted January 14, 2022 Posted January 14, 2022 Looks like everyone got the "claw back" talking points U.S. Treasury threatens to claw back Arizona funds over anti-masking school grants The U.S. Treasury on Friday said it told Arizona officials the state's proposed COVID-19 education assistance programs targeted at schools without mask mandates violate usage rules for federal aid money to state and local governments, and the department may claw back funding. https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-treasury-threatens-claw-back-arizona-funds-over-anti-masking-school-grants-2022-01-14/
L Ron Burgundy Posted January 14, 2022 Posted January 14, 2022 5 hours ago, Tiberius said: Can’t answer? Just my point, you asked an idiotic question. Inferior mind at work You talkin to me?
Big Blitz Posted January 14, 2022 Posted January 14, 2022 The only side that wants to shut people up or cancel them when they don't toe the company line......send them all to the sun. The behavior of fascists
Precision Posted January 14, 2022 Posted January 14, 2022 I'm sure it will be far worse than the bloodshed spilled between Ontario and Quebec.
SoTier Posted January 15, 2022 Posted January 15, 2022 On 1/13/2022 at 5:41 PM, Beach said: just wondering, as a Canadian why do you care about US politics? i dont know anything about Canadian politics and honestly dont care. My gf went to college in Canada and her Canadian friends visit and always ask about our politics. Because the US is the elephant in Canada's room, genius! On 1/14/2022 at 9:14 AM, LeviF said: Your poasting pattern suggests you assume a lot about American politics that is tenuously or technically true, at best. If you are in fact Canadian this isn't surprising nor is it uncommon. The reality is that the lack of civility and the attitude pervasive in American political discourse is a feature, not a bug, and a result of sixty years of careful maneuvering by government agencies, lobbyists, and the uber-wealthy. Are Russia and China looking to benefit? Of course. Are they heavily involved? No. The sad fact is that treacherous Americans have done these things to their own people. The CIA does not exist to spread the American way around the world. This is a common misunderstanding of what their mission and goals are. The CIA is an intelligence gathering agency that exists for the sole purpose of ensuring domestic security. On paper, they answer solely to the President. "Ensuring domestic security" has been interpreted in a variety of ways over the years, to include arming and funding despots friendly towards American interests and carrying out political assassinations half a world away. They play a very long game and don't really answer in any way to the people of the USA, which is a salient criticism of the Company. The "split" you describe isn't between Democrat and Republican, or even conservative and liberal, per se. It's a tension between those who cherish the republican values instilled in the original government of this nation and those who do not. This is why the split seems so large when it's "just politics." It's not just politics. This is a deeply philosophical, even religious divide that is played out in political and social proxy wars. The writers of the US Constitution stated their goals: to form a more perfect Union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to (them)selves and (their) posterity. These are not the goals of the United States Government for the past sixty years. Far from it. Your "poast" suggests that you suffer from the same shortcomings as the OP ... except that since you aren't Canadian, you're just infinitely more ignorant than the OP ... or living in an alternative universe where up is down and left is right. 16 hours ago, Big Blitz said: The only side that wants to shut people up or cancel them when they don't toe the company line......send them all to the sun. The behavior of fascists Another example of somebody's elevator not going to the top floor.
Orlando Buffalo Posted January 15, 2022 Posted January 15, 2022 If we ever went to a civil war the conservative people would win because we have the guns, but it won't happen because we would peaceably agree to split before it happens.
Niagara Bill Posted January 15, 2022 Author Posted January 15, 2022 On 1/14/2022 at 11:02 AM, Chef Jim said: i take it you weren’t around 50 years ago. I most certainly was....the deaths of the Vietnam era, today wouldn't even make the news. Cronkite reporting deaths each night were miniscule compared to today's domestic deaths. The battles were youth vs the older establishments who were all ex military so naturally supported military aggression. What Nixon did was nothing in comparison to the past 30 yrs.
Niagara Bill Posted January 15, 2022 Author Posted January 15, 2022 On 1/14/2022 at 10:07 AM, Tiberius said: Ya, what’s the point if your question? No riots going on now. Dems are steadier. When Republicans see democracy as a threat here at home then the cause of protecting it around the world suffers. Trump was easy on Putin and critical of our democratic allies And this week, Putin invades Ukraine, trump couldn't stop and Biden has already conceded. The US seems to be at war between the oceans. I say Russia and China have spent 20 years creating this environment behind the scenes. Democracy is dying, communism grows. Nixon, and Reagan ran the relationships, even Kennedy tried, but Clinton, there after have lost.
Wacka Posted January 15, 2022 Posted January 15, 2022 Niagara Bill cares more about smokes, beer , and poutine than anything else. Watch "The Great White North " to see what I mean.😀
Doc Posted January 15, 2022 Posted January 15, 2022 21 minutes ago, Wacka said: Niagara Bill cares more about smokes, beer , and poutine than anything else. Watch "The Great White North " to see what I mean.😀 Eh? 1
Niagara Bill Posted January 16, 2022 Author Posted January 16, 2022 So today the NYT reports Putin will place nukes near US border for 5 min strike timing. The US resolve and unity has been weakened by both Russia and China over past years. Russia gains Ukraine and more. China gets Hong Kong full control, Taiwan, and more. Can Biden deal, with this? Is Biden up to Kennedy standards. My answer is no. History shows how weak Russia was after 20 years in Afghanistan. Does history repeat it self. Internal turmoil is rotting from the inside. Russian hackers, Chinese hackers, Co ordinated financial attacks. US dependence on China manufacturing. The role of NATO leader and democracy protector has been America. Putin must have laughed when trump publicly insulted NATO leaders and UN. Just like Putin wanted. Has Russia and China coordinated this weakening ability. I hope my view is wrong...but it is getting a little more scary out there. It is a long way from Nixon-China accord and Reagan-Gobachev when US strength was obvious. Any comments or facts to agree or disagree other than insults. 😁😁
B-Man Posted January 16, 2022 Posted January 16, 2022 21 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said: So today the NYT reports Putin will place nukes near US border for 5 min strike timing. The US resolve and unity has been weakened by both Russia and China over past years. Russia gains Ukraine and more. China gets Hong Kong full control, Taiwan, and more. Can Biden deal, with this? Is Biden up to Kennedy standards. My answer is no. History shows how weak Russia was after 20 years in Afghanistan. Does history repeat it self. Internal turmoil is rotting from the inside. Russian hackers, Chinese hackers, Co ordinated financial attacks. US dependence on China manufacturing. The role of NATO leader and democracy protector has been America. Putin must have laughed when trump publicly insulted NATO leaders and UN. Just like Putin wanted. Has Russia and China coordinated this weakening ability. I hope my view is wrong...but it is getting a little more scary out there. It is a long way from Nixon-China accord and Reagan-Gobachev when US strength was obvious. Any comments or facts to agree or disagree other than insults. 😁😁 You are correct, the present administration is not able to deal with this. I am afraid that NO ONE is able to deal with this (Left or Right) at this point. We have been weakened too much. The U.S. should try and stay out of these spots until we can strengthen ourselves.....it will take at least five years. 1
BillStime Posted January 16, 2022 Posted January 16, 2022 Preview on what the GQP / @Doc will run on in 2022/2024 cuz they literally got nothing 1
BillStime Posted January 16, 2022 Posted January 16, 2022 When you got nothing else to run on: Trump claimed 'babies can be killed after birth' and called for ban on transgender athletes, stoking culture wars at Arizona rally Right @Doc?
Doc Posted January 17, 2022 Posted January 17, 2022 (edited) Interesting. I didn’t know that partial birth abortions were part of a “culture.” Same for transgender people who comprise 0.1% of the population. Not enough people care about these issues to prevent what’s coming in 2022 and 2024 for the Democrats. All the Rs have to do is run on the mess the country has become. But go right ahead and campaign on these issues. See how far it gets you. Edited January 17, 2022 by Doc
Buffarukus Posted January 17, 2022 Posted January 17, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, Doc said: Interesting. I didn’t know that partial birth abortions were part of a “culture.” Same for transgender people who comprise 0.1% of the population. Not enough people care about these issues to prevent what’s coming in 2022 and 2024 for the Democrats. All the Rs have to do is run on the mess the country has become. But go right ahead and campaign on these issues. See how far it gets you. doc. comon maan. your missing the point. yahoo news has clearly investigated that you do not believe in womens rights!!..also, women dont exist because gender is just a social construct that can be changed! i hope I've cleared it up. Edited January 17, 2022 by Buffarukus
Buffarukus Posted January 17, 2022 Posted January 17, 2022 (edited) to answer the ops question two words tree stand. one side is more inclined and loves nothing more then sitting in them all day, in the freezing cold, with camouflage, waiting silently for any movement, mastering multiple different weopon types i wouldn't want anything to do with a huge group of individuals that do this as a hobby when it comes to violence. yet everyday im hearing the news call them racist pieces of s#[÷ when they are simply trying to get a few venison sausages on the weekend. not a good idea if you ask me. id suggest everyone stop broad stroke stereotyping each other simply by how they vote. people are alittle more complex then racists and commies. continuosly comparing them to the worst of each side is a habit that needs to end, one way or the other. if the people your getting your info from are doing this regularly your attention is advocating this. turn it off, go outside and have a real conversation. Edited January 17, 2022 by Buffarukus
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