Daboll if you are listening...double moves will work this week!!

[Hebert19]

Listening to the Pats players and coaches this week tells me their biggest concern is Josh on the move.  So much so that Dugger said you can't take your eyes off him.  I think they will he coached up to keep eyes in backfield a lot...especially safties and linebackers.  

 

I think it will set up the pump fake and double moves a lot.   Just my 2 cents.  

 

Any other thoughts on how to attack this D?

 

My other one is stretch them horizontally.  Their D is good but they aren't the fastest most athletic D so making them play sideline to sideline will also open up this O.  

[Buffalo716]

Just now, Hebert19 said:

Listening to the Pats players and coaches this week tells me their biggest concern is Josh on the move.  So much so that Dugger said you can't take your eyes off him.  I think they will he coached up to keep eyes in backfield a lot...especially safties and linebackers.  

 

I think it will set up the pump fake and double moves a lot.   Just my 2 cents.  

 

Any other thoughts on how to attack this D?

 

My other one is stretch them horizontally.  Their D is good but they aren't the fastest most athletic D so making them play sideline to sideline will also open up this O.  

Just to be an ass, I don't think there's a coordinator alive who doesn't try to stretch the defense horizontally and vertically lol 

 

Those are the only two ways to stretch a defense hahahah 

 

You don't stretch them out by running backwards 🤣

[Hebert19]

Well agree but we don't do it well I'm run game at all other that Josh sweeps.   Our wr screen game blows...

 

So what other options are there.   Throwing ropes to outside in cold will be tough as well. 

[ALLEN1QB]

Just win baby

[Buffalo716]

4 minutes ago, Hebert19 said:

Well agree but we don't do it well I'm run game at all other that Josh sweeps.   Our wr screen game blows...

 

So what other options are there.   Throwing ropes to outside in cold will be tough as well. 

For 4 years with Josh we've been great at stretching a defense horizontally and vertically in the passing game

 

Beasley and McKenzie have been the horizontal stretchers.. Mackenzie runs the crossers and flat routes... Beasley runs the option routes which gives him the seam or the inside outside 

 

Knox is a seam stretcher and a corner/flag master.. he will push the defense horizontally and vertically on one play 

 

Where we don't do it great in the running game.. but in big games were always due for a couple of quarterback sweeps by Josh which will keep the defense honest

[BuffaloBillies]

Come out in short sleeve shirts and throw bombs each play on the first series.

[CEN-CAL17]

Heavy TE sets…. Play Action double move!!!!

[Hapless Bills Fan]

28 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

Just to be an ass, I don't think there's a coordinator alive who doesn't try to stretch the defense horizontally and vertically lol 

 

Those are the only two ways to stretch a defense hahahah 

 

You don't stretch them out by running backwards 🤣

 

shhhh.  dont tell zach wilson

[Hebert19]

33 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

For 4 years with Josh we've been great at stretching a defense horizontally and vertically in the passing game

 

Beasley and McKenzie have been the horizontal stretchers.. Mackenzie runs the crossers and flat routes... Beasley runs the option routes which gives him the seam or the inside outside 

 

Knox is a seam stretcher and a corner/flag master.. he will push the defense horizontally and vertically on one play 

 

Where we don't do it great in the running game.. but in big games were always due for a couple of quarterback sweeps by Josh which will keep the defense honest

Ya.  This is what I'm thinking.  Also a few quick passes when defense is off

[Blainorama5]

Run backwards.  This will completely confuse the defenders and they will become so flustered and disoriented, they will stop defending ... THEN run the right direction ... all the way to the endzone.  Should work every time!!

[Buffalo716]

2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

shhhh.  dont tell zach wilson

I just spit out my tea 🤣

[Ray Stonada]

Throw a few quick outs to Diggs and Sanders and set up the double move to them later.

One place I miss John Brown is the WR screen plays. He had that burst.

[aceman_16]

Im pretty sure he peruses the boards for pro level strategies.

[The Wiz]

46 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

Just to be an ass, I don't think there's a coordinator alive who doesn't try to stretch the defense horizontally and vertically lol 

 

Those are the only two ways to stretch a defense hahahah 

 

You don't stretch them out by running backwards 🤣

The Bills are gonna throw everyone for a loop and stretch them diagonally. 5D chess. 

[Royale with Cheese]

I think we should play the game like I played Tecmo Bowl.  

 

I would kneel the ball at the 1 on a kickoff.  I would throw a deep ball to Reed for a 99 yard TD or have him run the hook, break the tackle and go 99 yards constantly zig zagging.

 

When I wanted Thurman to get his yards, I would get him at least one 99 yard rushing TD.

[Big Turk]

Especially with Jalen Mills, their starting CB likely to be out 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

1 hour ago, Hebert19 said:

Well agree but we don't do it well I'm run game at all other that Josh sweeps.   Our wr screen game blows...

 

So what other options are there.   Throwing ropes to outside in cold will be tough as well. 

 

Didn't we have a solid screen pass to Knox as one of the first plays against the Jets?

 

*rummage* *rummage* Yes, first play.  Went for 17 yds.

 

18 minutes ago, Ray Stonada said:

Throw a few quick outs to Diggs and Sanders and set up the double move to them later.

One place I miss John Brown is the WR screen plays. He had that burst.

 

In theory, McKenzie should have same but teams are watching too much for him in the backfield whenever he's in the game,  I think, because we don't use him downfield as much.

[PatsFanNH]

1 hour ago, Hebert19 said:

Listening to the Pats players and coaches this week tells me their biggest concern is Josh on the move.  So much so that Dugger said you can't take your eyes off him.  I think they will he coached up to keep eyes in backfield a lot...especially safties and linebackers.  

 

I think it will set up the pump fake and double moves a lot.   Just my 2 cents.  

 

Any other thoughts on how to attack this D?

 

My other one is stretch them horizontally.  Their D is good but they aren't the fastest most athletic D so making them play sideline to sideline will also open up this O.  

No, it was emphasized after Tia burned them AGAIN running the ball. If anything they will have a spy on Allen, it will be the job of the line to maintain discipline in their gaps.

7 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

Especially with Jalen Mills, their starting CB likely to be out 

That made me sick that reality.. he is our starting CB.. god losing our #2 CB early in the year stunk.. (Jonathan Jones)

[WhoTom]

Daboll, if you are listening ...

 

... WTF are you doing on a message board? Get your ass back in the film room and prepare for a playoff game!

 

 

[SoCal Deek]

1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said:

Just to be an ass, I don't think there's a coordinator alive who doesn't try to stretch the defense horizontally and vertically lol 

 

Those are the only two ways to stretch a defense hahahah 

 

You don't stretch them out by running backwards 🤣

So that covers the X and Y coordinate.  What about the Z? What if the defense gets TALLER?  Hmmm?