Doc Posted January 13, 2022 Posted January 13, 2022 My son and I were having this discussion last night. I asked him if he'd keep RIch Bisaccia. He wouldn't, I said I would after taking the team to the playoffs despite all the turmoil. What say you? Quote
Gugny Posted January 13, 2022 Posted January 13, 2022 That team was a shitshow until Gruden quit. They are playing hard for Bisaccia and winning. He should stay. 3 6 Quote
RiotAct Posted January 13, 2022 Posted January 13, 2022 small sample size, but it’s pretty amazing they made the postseason (let alone the 5th seed) after the Gruden and Ruggs fiascos. I’d keep him. 3 Quote
RobbRiddick Posted January 13, 2022 Posted January 13, 2022 I think he's earned a full season in charge 2 3 Quote
Greg S Posted January 13, 2022 Posted January 13, 2022 He did a very good job under some tough circumstances. I definitely think the Raiders will remove the interim tag and make him the HC going forward. He got them into the playoffs so he's earned the opportunity. 1 Quote
dpberr Posted January 13, 2022 Posted January 13, 2022 He was a hot coaching candidate just a few years ago. I think there remains a prejudice against special teams coaches as head coaches, despite your John Harbaughs and Bill Belichicks. Joe Judge and his disaster in NY won't help matters - he was a long time ST coach that straight up failed. Bisaccia and Dave Toub (KC's ST coach) always get the interviews but not the commitment. Quote
Rochesterfan Posted January 13, 2022 Posted January 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, Doc said: My son and I were having this discussion last night. I asked him if he'd keep RIch Bisaccia. He wouldn't, I said I would after taking the team to the playoffs despite all the turmoil. What say you? I would say maybe. I would interview him and the players, but I would want to do my due diligence and interview limited others and see what shakes free. I would replace him if a big time coach - Harbaugh for example breaks free, but would not replace him with a Dabol/Frazier/or series of other OCs that don’t call the offense. It does not matter to me win or lose - I just want to look at options before deciding Bisaccia is the future. I have no issues keeping him, but if an improvement is available- go for it. 2 1 Quote
thenorthremembers Posted January 13, 2022 Posted January 13, 2022 It depends on what the Raiders are aiming for. If they are looking for a year or two of stability where they can go at best 9-8, then yeah go ahead an keep him. But I think their playoff run has more to do with Indianapolis having Carson Wentz at Quarterback, and Lamar Jackson being hurt. Looking at their schedule for next year I think they are at best a 6 or 7 win team. As such, I wouldnt offer the guy any sort of long term contract to only have to pay him to eventually not coach the team once he is fired. The Raiders should be looking at long term sustainable success, and I dont think he is the guy to bring that to the team. Personally I'd find someone else. 1 Quote
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 13, 2022 Posted January 13, 2022 When you look at some of the retreads trotted out (Gase) after their previous notable 'Fa 🧋cups', he certainly deserves another year. Quote
Big Turk Posted January 13, 2022 Posted January 13, 2022 I don't know how you fire the dude after he navigated them through all of that and still made the playoffs. He should be coach of the year 1 Quote
BidsJr Posted January 13, 2022 Posted January 13, 2022 23 minutes ago, dpberr said: He was a hot coaching candidate just a few years ago. I think there remains a prejudice against special teams coaches as head coaches, despite your John Harbaughs and Bill Belichicks. Joe Judge and his disaster in NY won't help matters - he was a long time ST coach that straight up failed. Bisaccia and Dave Toub (KC's ST coach) always get the interviews but not the commitment. Bill was a DC Quote
bills6969 Posted January 13, 2022 Posted January 13, 2022 Derek Carr is basically the coach of that team. A player/coach. Tremendous leader who keeps that team together. 1 Quote
Realist Posted January 13, 2022 Posted January 13, 2022 Raiders are always looking for a big splash, I don't think they keep him unless he wins a playoff game. They won't have a choice if that happens. Quote
dpberr Posted January 13, 2022 Posted January 13, 2022 13 minutes ago, BidsJr said: Bill was a DC Not his entire career. Quote
GunnerBill Posted January 13, 2022 Posted January 13, 2022 No. I'd can him. Nice guy, done a nice job in keeping the ship together. But some of his coaching decisions have been a little odd and I am not sure without the power of fighting against adversity as a motivation he is really the guy I want to turn over control of my franchise to. A lot depends on what they think of Mayock and their current roster. If they want to run things back one more year then maybe keep him, but it wouldn't surprise me if they do and he ends up 1 and done as a permanent Head Coach. 1 1 Quote
dave mcbride Posted January 13, 2022 Posted January 13, 2022 42 minutes ago, dpberr said: He was a hot coaching candidate just a few years ago. I think there remains a prejudice against special teams coaches as head coaches, despite your John Harbaughs and Bill Belichicks. Joe Judge and his disaster in NY won't help matters - he was a long time ST coach that straight up failed. Bisaccia and Dave Toub (KC's ST coach) always get the interviews but not the commitment. Belichick was a longtime DC, not a ST coach. 4 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: No. I'd can him. Nice guy, done a nice job in keeping the ship together. But some of his coaching decisions have been a little odd and I am not sure without the power of fighting against adversity as a motivation he is really the guy I want to turn over control of my franchise to. A lot depends on what they think of Mayock and their current roster. If they want to run things back one more year then maybe keep him, but it wouldn't surprise me if they do and he ends up 1 and done as a permanent Head Coach. Yeah, I’d try to keep him as ST coach/assistant HC, but he is not the answer. They were a very lucky team this season. 1 Quote
T master Posted January 13, 2022 Posted January 13, 2022 I think the Raiders with Gruden were headed in the same direction as the Texans were with Bill Obrien at the HC position & the fact that Gruen won a SB with the team that Tony built never set well with me because after that what did he do ? He wanted and got ultimate control & i don't think a franchise or the team can operate like that maybe in the rare occasion but Rich was thrown into the fire and took the ship & is now on the verge of the play offs that shows good on him . I would wait until the end of the season while doing the exit interviews and ask the players for their input. What do you think, what did you see, how did he handle certain situations & then go from there to make a decision . I know there have been a couple of times that has happened here in B/lo & i would have like to have been able to see what if anything the interim HC could have done if given control the following year like when Perry Fewell took over i always though he may have been a good HC . But we will never know ... Quote
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 13, 2022 Posted January 13, 2022 11 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: No. I'd can him. Nice guy, done a nice job in keeping the ship together. But some of his coaching decisions have been a little odd and I am not sure without the power of fighting against adversity as a motivation he is really the guy I want to turn over control of my franchise to. A franchise owned by: 🤔 3 Quote
BuffaloBillyG Posted January 13, 2022 Posted January 13, 2022 Depends on who they could get. If they were to hire a Leslie Frazier type (and nothing against Frazier here) then they may as well stay with RIch Bisaccia. Same steady influence that could bridge the team to the next phase. If they could get Harbaugh yo leave Michigan or some other guy that is a no brainer upgrade then you make the change. I think in this case a well you take the time to ask the vets on the team what they would think about keeping Bisaccia and factor that in as well. 1 Quote
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted January 13, 2022 Posted January 13, 2022 1 hour ago, dpberr said: He was a hot coaching candidate just a few years ago. I think there remains a prejudice against special teams coaches as head coaches, despite your John Harbaughs and Bill Belichicks. Joe Judge and his disaster in NY won't help matters - he was a long time ST coach that straight up failed. Bisaccia and Dave Toub (KC's ST coach) always get the interviews but not the commitment. Little less recent but Marv Levy was a ST coordinator prior to becoming a HC. The other notable example is Mike Ditka. Quote
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