Bears and Dolphins request interview with Brian Daboll

[Nihilarian]

6 hours ago, Process said:

*crosses fingers*

I wouldn't get my hopes up. If he had a decent interview I'd think he be the HC of the Chargers right now.

 

Dolphins-Bears 

 

and Jags-Raiders-Broncos-Vikings are also looking for a new HC.

 

https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-coaching-gm-tracker-latest-news-interviews-developments-in-2022-hiring-cycle

 

Interesting stuff. According to this link, Daboll is the only guy being considered for the Miami job atm.

[Scott7975]

Adios Daboll!

[Chandler#81]

Going for us -or against us per your POV, Daboll has enjoyed an impactful and successful career to date. Now finally back in his hometown where he just lost a loved one, I don’t think he’s interested in re-locating yet again. He may be forced to a make a decision at some time, but all things being equal ($$) I thinks he’s happy where he’s at. When he talks about WNY, you can hear the love he has for it, it’s history and neighborhoods and his family.

 

jmo

[Dan Darragh]

4 hours ago, ArtVandalay said:

Coached him a lot longer than that, he developed him and wanted to play him over hurts but Saban wouldn't allow it until desperation hit. 

and now they're both crappy NFL quarterbacks

[Chandler#81]

25 minutes ago, Dan Darragh said:

and now they're both crappy NFL quarterbacks

Dan Darragh would know one if he saw one. juss sayin’ 🤷‍♂️

[GunnerBill]

Not sure I love the fit for Daboll in either spot. I see the Fields development angle in Chicago, sure, but I feel like the Bears just went this road with Nagy. An offensive coordinator who'd only been successful in one place with a star QB to try and prop up a drafted QB who wasn't shining. 

 

Chicago needs to forget who they have on their roster right this minute and focus on a leader who will bring an identity. Maybe they think Daboll is that. I'd have my doubts. 

 

Of the open jobs the one I actually like Daboll as a fit in is Minnesota. He would be the right DC hire away from being successful there IMO. The name I heard he was attaching himself to last year as his DC was Patricia. Not heard anything about his proposed staff this time around. But staffs are big in HC interviews. Especially coordinators on the opposite side of the ball.

[longtimebillsfan]

6 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

Time will tell, I wouldn't go there if i was him, they have been inept for a long time.

 

 

You could say the same thing when McDermott was considering the Bills head coaching job.

[HOUSE]

In this corner you have the Dolphins that just fired a head coach with an 8 game winning streak

 

In the other corner Da Bears whom fire head coaches every two years...

 

Pick carefully Brian.....

 

 

[GunnerBill]

2 hours ago, Nihilarian said:

I wouldn't get my hopes up. If he had a decent interview I'd think he be the HC of the Chargers right now.

 

 

Some truth to that but I think it was more that as soon as Staley got in the room he was getting hired. He blew them away. So Daboll could obviously have done a better interview, but equally from what was reported Staley was one of those rare he walks out of the room and the entire panel looks at one another and says "that's our guy" moments. Mike Tomlin was famously that in Pittsburgh and similar profile: very young, only one season as a DC but just blew people away in the interview. 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

6 hours ago, Sharky7337 said:

Not really in my opinion. Most good jobs have good ownership. 

 

Miami has demonstrated with their most recent decisions to not be that.

 

Until an organization finds a QB they are all chasing their tail. Miami has been chasing a QB for a while. 

 

But it's still one of the premier jobs in the NFL.

[GunnerBill]

42 minutes ago, HOUSE said:

In this corner you have the Dolphins that just fired a head coach with an 8 game winning streak

 

In the other corner Da Bears whom fire head coaches every two years...

 

Pick carefully Brian.....

 

 

 

The luxury of the job Brian Daboll has is that he can pick carefully. While he is Josh Allen's offensive coordinator he will get interviews pretty much every year so he doesn't have to jump at a bad opportunity - indeed he turned an interview request from Philadelphia down last year. But there is also a hot iron element. There have been guys over the years who have been in the mix every year for 3 or 4 years and don't quite land one and then disappear. Greg Roman was that a bit - he got interviews every year he was the OC in San Fran. Ray Horton in his stint as DC in Arizona had about half a dozen interviews over a 3 year span (including here in the cycle that led to Marrone's hiring) and then it didn't work out, he took a bad job in Cleveland to be Chudzinski's DC and his reputation never recovered, he hasn't had an interview since. Teryl Austin when he was Jim Caldwell's DC in Detroit got interviews every year. Caldwell gets fired Austin doesn't get a job, took a bad job in Cincy and is now the defensive backs coach in Pittsburgh. 

 

So he can choose carefully, but also you do tend to have something of a window. 

[Matt_In_NH]

8 hours ago, Trock said:

These distractions need to wait until the off season. No interviews until then. 

Unfortunately that is not how it works. 

[Not at the table Karlos]

9 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

I wonder if there are any coordinators out there that just say, “no thanks— I love being a coordinator and am great at it, and don’t want to give that up.” It’s sort of what McDaniels has done recently. 

Dick lebeau did a couple times after he left Cincy. 

[Giuseppe Tognarelli]

I just hate these distractions during the playoffs. It really seemed like it hurt us last year.

[Dopey]

10 hours ago, Process said:

*crosses fingers*

According to Pro Football Reference, we've scored the 3rd most points of ANY team in the league!! 3rd guys, 3rd!

 

What the hell are any of you complaining about?!? What more do you want?!?

 

While I'm at it, we're #1 in points against and won back to back AFCE CHAMPS!

 

IMO,  any complainer(you know who you are) is a dumb@$$!; Again, JMO.

 

Phew, that felt good!

[GunnerBill]

10 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

I wonder if there are any coordinators out there that just say, “no thanks— I love being a coordinator and am great at it, and don’t want to give that up.” It’s sort of what McDaniels has done recently. 

 

Easier to do once you have had one go around. Harder for a guy who has never had his shot. 

[JMF2006]

If I were Daboll I would decline both of those spots.

 

Both drafted a QB under the previous regime and unless they are willing to part ways and let you get your own guy it would be a hard pass if it were me.

[GunnerBill]

10 hours ago, Bob in STL said:

Called the West Called Offense in the 80’s and early 90’s.   Now an evolution of it.  

 

I call it the stretch zone WCO. Because the passing concepts are still predicated on the old school Bill Walsh WCO but the running concepts that is the Mike Shanahan / Alex Gibbs stretch zone. The reason they mesh perfectly together is because they both work best with a lot of QB under centre. 

 

My personal view about the scheme is it is the best scheme in NFL history at maximising the production of good Quarterbacks. But if you have a superstar Quarterback it kinda puts them in a straight jacket a bit. It is no secret Peyton Manning hated running it his final year in Denver, even though it finally brought him that second Superbowl, and he insisted in meshing it with some of the E-P and spread concepts that he had run with Tom Moore in Indy. Elway was much more of a fan of it when he ran it at the end of his career in Denver but that might be because he was so desperate for a ring by that point he'd have run anything to get there. I suspect a 25 year old John Elway wouldn't have loved it either. 

 

Think about the guys who really have had their best career success running the scheme and it is Matt Ryan and Jimmy Garoppolo and Kirk Cousins and Jake Plummer and Matt Schaub. Ryan is the best of that group and it made him an MVP but I think with a guy who can make every throw you risk taking away some of that ability to make plays off schedule. 

 

The other version of the WCO still prevalent in the NFL is the Andy Reid spread WCO. Where again there are some core Bill Walsh timing concepts in there but it is meshed with a lot of spread formation and empty backfield from the shotgun. 

[Coach Tuesday]

9 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I call it the stretch zone WCO. Because the passing concepts are still predicated on the old school Bill Walsh WCO but the running concepts that is the Mike Shanahan / Alex Gibbs stretch zone. The reason they mesh perfectly together is because they both work best with a lot of QB under centre. 

 

My personal view about the scheme is it is the best scheme in NFL history at maximising the production of good Quarterbacks. But if you have a superstar Quarterback it kinda puts them in a straight jacket a bit. It is no secret Peyton Manning hated running it his final year in Denver, even though it finally brought him that second Superbowl, and he insisted in meshing it with some of the E-P and spread concepts that he had run with Tom Moore in Indy. Elway was much more of a fan of it when he ran it at the end of his career in Denver but that might be because he was so desperate for a ring by that point he'd have run anything to get there. I suspect a 25 year old John Elway wouldn't have loved it either. 

 

Think about the guys who really have had their best career success running the scheme and it is Matt Ryan and Jimmy Garoppolo and Kirk Cousins and Jake Plummer and Matt Schaub. Ryan is the best of that group and it made him an MVP but I think with a guy who can make every throw you risk taking away some of that ability to make plays off schedule. 

 

The other version of the WCO still prevalent in the NFL is the Andy Reid spread WCO. Where again there are some core Bill Walsh timing concepts in there but it is meshed with a lot of spread formation and empty backfield from the shotgun. 

Is it not what Green Bay runs with Rodgers?

[GunnerBill]

4 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

Is it not what Green Bay runs with Rodgers?

 

Yea, fair point. There is a lot of that in what LaFleur runs. Rodgers moaned about it a fair bit the first year too.