Dopey Posted January 10, 2022 Posted January 10, 2022 According to Pro Football Reference, we've scored the 3rd most points of ANY team in the league!! 3rd guys, 3rd! What the hell are any of you complaining about?!? What more do you want?!? While I'm at it, we're #1 in points against and won back to back AFCE CHAMPS! IMO, any complainer(you know who you are) is a dumb@$$!; Again, JMO. Phew, that felt good! 7 2 4 1 1 5 2 4 7 3 Quote
RyanC883 Posted January 10, 2022 Posted January 10, 2022 (edited) no one is complaining. But, if you want a complaint, we should be the 1 seed. Lots of those points came against bad teams. This isn't a fantasy league where points scored and points allowed win you something. We should have beaten Tenn, and Tampa, but in both games the Bills vanished at key times. Oh, also should have beaten Jax. Edited January 10, 2022 by RyanC883 2 4 1 2 3 Quote
Motorin' Posted January 10, 2022 Posted January 10, 2022 1 minute ago, RyanC883 said: no one is complaining. But, if you want a complaint, we should be the 1 seed. Lots of those points came against bad teams. This isn't a fantasy league where points scored and points allowed win you something. We should have beaten Tenn, and Tampa, but in both games the Bills vanished at key times. Oh, also should have beaten Jax. The tolls come out in the game day thread as soon as there's a hint of frustration. And there's a lot of them. 3 Quote
Einstein Posted January 10, 2022 Posted January 10, 2022 46 minutes ago, Dopey said: According to Pro Football Reference, we've scored the 3rd most points of ANY team in the league!! 3rd guys, 3rd! What the hell are any of you complaining about?!? What more do you want?!? While I'm at it, we're #1 in points against and won back to back AFCE CHAMPS! IMO, any complainer(you know who you are) is a dumb@$$!; Again, JMO. Phew, that felt good! They score in bunches. Fans would rather it be a bit more… consistent. 1 1 1 Quote
FilthyBeast Posted January 10, 2022 Posted January 10, 2022 Regardless of some of the key metrics out there, this team should be in a much better position right now especially given the current state of the AFC. Also not to be a debbie downer, I get that we have some great defensive numbers but look at the type of QB's we've played this year in probably more than half of our games. This has to be some sort of record for the number of rookie QB/backups a team has faced over a full regular season schedule: NE x 2 NYJ x 2 MIA (Brisset played pretty much the entire first game) HOU WAS CAR JAC NO Like I've said all along, McDermott and his staff have to be recognized for what they've done in 5 full years here. But it's not about getting to the playoffs anymore, it's about getting to SB's and winning championships and this is how we will ultimately determine how good a coach McD really is. 1 4 1 3 Quote
Solomon Grundy Posted January 10, 2022 Posted January 10, 2022 My problem with coaching yesterday was them continuing to prance Matt Haack out there to punt. I’d rather them prance Stevenson out there and having Josh throw up a deep 50/50 type pass. Probably had better results 😎 1 4 Quote
Steve O Posted January 10, 2022 Posted January 10, 2022 Before McDermott we were referring to the Wade Phillips era as the good old days! 1 1 1 Quote
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted January 10, 2022 Posted January 10, 2022 1 hour ago, RyanC883 said: no one is complaining. But, if you want a complaint, we should be the 1 seed. Lots of those points came against bad teams. This isn't a fantasy league where points scored and points allowed win you something. We should have beaten Tenn, and Tampa, but in both games the Bills vanished at key times. Oh, also should have beaten Jax. Sounds like you're complaining! 2 3 1 Quote
Bferra13 Posted January 10, 2022 Posted January 10, 2022 I have problems with Daboll abandoning the run and passing 23 (a lot of those were embarrassing passes too) times in a row like we were down 24-0 to the 07' Pats. He's had some mind boggling play calls this year. And just cuz people criticize doesn't mean they are trolls. It's part of being a fan. 2 1 Quote
Dopey Posted January 10, 2022 Author Posted January 10, 2022 1 hour ago, FilthyBeast said: Regardless of some of the key metrics out there, this team should be in a much better position right now especially given the current state of the AFC. Also not to be a debbie downer, I get that we have some great defensive numbers but look at the type of QB's we've played this year in probably more than half of our games. This has to be some sort of record for the number of rookie QB/backups a team has faced over a full regular season schedule: NE x 2 NYJ x 2 MIA (Brisset played pretty much the entire first game) HOU WAS CAR JAC NO Like I've said all along, McDermott and his staff have to be recognized for what they've done in 5 full years here. But it's not about getting to the playoffs anymore, it's about getting to SB's and winning championships and this is how we will ultimately determine how good a coach McD really is. Really?!? We did what we we're supposed to do with this schedule. Can't do much better than #1 in points allowed, can you?!? Bad Coach, bad Coach. Again: According to Pro Football Reference, we've scored the 3rd most points of ANY team in the league!! 3rd guys, 3rd! What the hell are any of you complaining about?!? What more do you want?!? While I'm at it, we're #1 in points against and won back to back AFCE CHAMPS! IMO, any complainer(you know who you are) is a dumb@$$!; Again, JMO. Phew, that felt good! 1 hour ago, RyanC883 said: no one is complaining. But, if you want a complaint, we should be the 1 seed. Lots of those points came against bad teams. This isn't a fantasy league where points scored and points allowed win you something. We should have beaten Tenn, and Tampa, but in both games the Bills vanished at key times. Oh, also should have beaten Jax. Actually, points scored and points allowed does win you something. An AFCE Championship. Go pee on someone else's snow. Quote
nedboy7 Posted January 10, 2022 Posted January 10, 2022 1 hour ago, FilthyBeast said: Regardless of some of the key metrics out there, this team should be in a much better position right now especially given the current state of the AFC. Also not to be a debbie downer, I get that we have some great defensive numbers but look at the type of QB's we've played this year in probably more than half of our games. This has to be some sort of record for the number of rookie QB/backups a team has faced over a full regular season schedule: NE x 2 NYJ x 2 MIA (Brisset played pretty much the entire first game) HOU WAS CAR JAC NO Like I've said all along, McDermott and his staff have to be recognized for what they've done in 5 full years here. But it's not about getting to the playoffs anymore, it's about getting to SB's and winning championships and this is how we will ultimately determine how good a coach McD really is. every year 31 coaches suck and underperform. 1 Quote
ColoradoBills Posted January 10, 2022 Posted January 10, 2022 Once you take away the trolls and the people that are just not happy with anything the remaining group of Buffalo Bills fans who want McDermott and Beane gone is very small. Very small. Quote
NickelCity Posted January 10, 2022 Posted January 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Motorin' said: The tolls come out in the game day thread as soon as there's a hint of frustration. Gotta pay the troll toll. 1 Quote
What a Tuel Posted January 10, 2022 Posted January 10, 2022 1 hour ago, RyanC883 said: no one is complaining. But, if you want a complaint, we should be the 1 seed. Lots of those points came against bad teams. This isn't a fantasy league where points scored and points allowed win you something. We should have beaten Tenn, and Tampa, but in both games the Bills vanished at key times. Oh, also should have beaten Jax. Points scored against Tenn - 31 TB - 27 KC - 38 NE - 33 I mean the only time we scored under 25 points was: Jaguars Colts Pats (Windy game) Steelers We should be the #1 seed for sure, but the idea that we cant score points against good teams is false. 1 Quote
Logic Posted January 10, 2022 Posted January 10, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Dopey said: According to Pro Football Reference, we've scored the 3rd most points of ANY team in the league!! 3rd guys, 3rd! What the hell are any of you complaining about?!? What more do you want?!? While I'm at it, we're #1 in points against and won back to back AFCE CHAMPS! IMO, any complainer(you know who you are) is a dumb@$$!; Again, JMO. Phew, that felt good! First: I like our coaching staff a lot. They certainly should not be fired. That's silly. They're one of the better coaching staffs in the league. Second: It's okay to acknowledge the above while still critiquing personnel decisions, playcalls, strategies, and other decisions. Coaches are not infallible. Even the great Bill Belichick is not exempt from criticism. Third: It's great that the Bills are AFC East champions and are hosting a playoff game. I'm excited. It's exciting. That said, the Bills SHOULD be the first or second seed. Instead of looking down the barrel of a matchup with the Pats at home and then a roadie at Arrowhead, they should be getting a week off and then hosting the Bengals or Raiders. The reasons they're NOT the first or second seed are open for debate, but coaching and player execution (which is not unrelated to coaching anyway) are at least partly to blame. Fourth: I have the right, as a fan, to simultaneously be proud of our team and to like our staff and players, and to ALSO feel that we have wasted some precious opportunities this season and have made the playoff path much harder than it needed to be, and that those letdowns have sometimes been due to coaching and, at other times, due to poor play. There's room here for optimism, pessimism, realism, and criticism. You are not czar of Two Bills Drive. Edited January 10, 2022 by Logic 1 3 Quote
John from Riverside Posted January 10, 2022 Posted January 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Einstein said: They score in bunches. Fans would rather it be a bit more… consistent. Third in the AFC Two consecutive AFC East titles Number one defense in the league four out of the last five times playoffs? What the ***** are you talking about 2 Quote
Rocbillsfan1 Posted January 10, 2022 Posted January 10, 2022 (edited) On 1/10/2022 at 10:17 AM, Dopey said: According to Pro Football Reference, we've scored the 3rd most points of ANY team in the league!! 3rd guys, 3rd! What the hell are any of you complaining about?!? What more do you want?!? While I'm at it, we're #1 in points against and won back to back AFCE CHAMPS! IMO, any complainer(you know who you are) is a dumb@$$!; Again, JMO. Phew, that felt good! So you’re telling me that Daboll calls great game plans at home when we have winds of 50 mph +? Why is Isaiah McKenzie not been used all year until they were forced to. Why was sanders playing over Gabe Davis? Why is moss ever on the field? Why don’t they ever commit to getting singletary touches except 2 or 3 times this whole year. This team lost a lot of games to inferior teams because of coaching. But yes we are all happy they closed out the year as divisional winners but this team had the talent to be the clear #1 seed in a year where most of the top teams took a step back. If you want to tout their amazing defensive and offensive stats then why didn’t they win more games? Edited January 11, 2022 by Rocbillsfan1 4 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted January 10, 2022 Posted January 10, 2022 1 hour ago, FilthyBeast said: Regardless of some of the key metrics out there, this team should be in a much better position right now especially given the current state of the AFC. Also not to be a debbie downer, I get that we have some great defensive numbers but look at the type of QB's we've played this year in probably more than half of our games. This has to be some sort of record for the number of rookie QB/backups a team has faced over a full regular season schedule: NE x 2 NYJ x 2 MIA (Brisset played pretty much the entire first game) HOU WAS CAR JAC NO Like I've said all along, McDermott and his staff have to be recognized for what they've done in 5 full years here. But it's not about getting to the playoffs anymore, it's about getting to SB's and winning championships and this is how we will ultimately determine how good a coach McD really is. But what are the Bills supposed to do? Play teams not on the schedule. Even if you accept that they played a reasonably easy schedule of QBs you then look at the numbers and realise the defense was outstanding. They took full advantage. Not much more they can do. 1st in points against 1st in yards against 1st in fewest % of drives against ending in points 1st in yards per drive 1st in yards per play (and by a huge 0.4 yards per play.... the difference between the Bills in first and the Browns in second is the same as the difference between the Browns in 2nd and the Titans in 18th) 1st in 3rd down defense 1st in QB hurry % 1st in pressure % 1st in air yards given up (about 340 yards clear of 2nd place Chicago) And that is just the firsts..... let's look where else they rank top 10: 6th in redzone defense (touchdowns only) 7th in sack percentage (ie. the percentage of passing attempts against where they sacked the opposing QB) 7th in % of drives against that ended in a turnover 8th in 4th down defense 9th in QB knock downs I mean by modern standards that is pretty extraordinary. So yes, sure, they played some beatable competition. But they beat it handily on defense. 1 2 Quote
teef Posted January 10, 2022 Posted January 10, 2022 football! 1 hour ago, FilthyBeast said: Regardless of some of the key metrics out there, this team should be in a much better position right now especially given the current state of the AFC. Also not to be a debbie downer, I get that we have some great defensive numbers but look at the type of QB's we've played this year in probably more than half of our games. This has to be some sort of record for the number of rookie QB/backups a team has faced over a full regular season schedule: NE x 2 NYJ x 2 MIA (Brisset played pretty much the entire first game) HOU WAS CAR JAC NO Like I've said all along, McDermott and his staff have to be recognized for what they've done in 5 full years here. But it's not about getting to the playoffs anymore, it's about getting to SB's and winning championships and this is how we will ultimately determine how good a coach McD really is. do you wake up like this, or does it take a few cups of coffee to get you there? 1 Quote
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