Buffalo vs New England Wildcard Game: 8:15 PM Saturday Night

[Greg S]

6 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said:

that literally makes no sense. nothing over the last 2 seasons has shown that.

 

When are fans objective about their teams. You are correct the last 2 years the Bills have been better. But Pats fans won't look at it that way. The Bills will probably have to win a Super Bowl and even then Pats fans will probably say "we are better we have 6 of them". 

3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

I understand the entitlement is there. But it’s a bit delusional. Now, I don’t think they are a bad team, they are a good team. But I’m surprised some analysts - not just Boston -  look at the matchup the way that they do. I think there are a number of ways the bills could lose but they should be favored given their recent history vs the pats. Mike tanier said yesterday that his upset pick is the pats and it won’t he an upset. Didn’t say why, which was my question. I won’t be shocked or anything if the bills lose,  but would consider it an upset. 
 

I worry about Allen’s passes in the cold. Tough to catch those freezing bullets. Mac won’t have that issue. 

 

As long as their is no wind Allen and the receivers should be fine. If the Bills do a good job against the run then I don't see how NE can win assuming the Bills don't turn it over. It will be very similar to the game at NE.

[NewEra]

32 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

As opposed to forcing the ball to Singletary and Moss and taking it out of the best player on the fields hands? 

That’s a different statement.  You said that he was throwing the ball just fine.  No…..he wasn’t. 50% completion is not just fine.  It’s poor.  Just because he can throw the ball with velocity doesn’t mean our passing game was fine.  It wasn’t fine.   He wasn’t “fine’ vs the falcons or jets either.  
 

the pats run D is trash. Much worse than ours.  Why would we not at least attempt to run?  In that first patriot game, we didn’t have a viable heavy set.  We used Sweeney on 13 plays and he’s terrible. Expect more running this sunday with Doyle taking Sweeney spot in the heavy set.  

[eball]

I have a question, realizing that many attempted jokes will follow:

 

In cold weather games are the balls kept "warmed" at all?

[PromoTheRobot]

10 hours ago, Putin said:

F them 

How you know that ?

 

It's 5 days away 

[EmotionallyUnstable]

17 minutes ago, Tom Donahoe, GM said:

 

Right, but that is exactly why I am suggesting it. If you do the same thing every time people will know what's coming (forgetting for a moment whether they can deal with that in the first place, most teams can't), so I would really pressure Jones into a mistake early. I want the Pats in a hole by the end of the 1st

I get it, I just don’t think that is McD and Fraiser’s style. 
 

If I wanted them to change something schematically, I think it’d be how they approach the run game and the depth they have their safeties playing:

 

When you look at our defense, traditionally we have at least one if not both safeties playing 15-20 yards deep. I am much more concerned about the ground game with NE, and want to see our LBs play downhill decisively. The issue with this becomes how wide open the PA game becomes over the middle of the field (I.e. see Titans game). 
 

If we roll those safeties down a bit I think it would really allow Edmunds/Milano to be decisive in their reads by taking some pressure off of their backend zone drops and onto the shoulders of our safeties. This would open them up to deep passes, double

moves and really hang our secondary out to dry.

 

I think that is okay and worth the risk for many reasons: 

 

- we have phenomenal safeties

- our DL seems to be getting to the QB

-Jones doesn’t scare me with a deep ball

-If those LBs are coming down hill, at a certain point, they will just keep going and they’ll be extra rushers in the PA game.

 

I would not expect McD or Fraiser to do this regularly, but I could absolutely see zone run blitzes regularly dialed up. 

[NewEra]

23 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said:

it was a host from boston radio that went onto an espn morning show. it wasnt his own show. he was being asked about his thoughts on the game.

Well, either way….he’s a Boston based reporter talking about him team prior to a playoff game vs a division rival.  You know he has to something good about his team…..what else could he possibly say?  BB is the reason they are in the playoffs.  He’s one of the reasons the team has had so much success over 20 decades….. do you expect him to say negative things about the pats?  Of course he’s going to put a positive spin on things…..and BB is just about the only positive thing going for that team right now….loser of 3 of last 4 games

[Fan in Chicago]

21 minutes ago, eball said:

I have a question, realizing that many attempted jokes will follow:

 

In cold weather games are the balls kept "warmed" at all?

I dont know the answer if the balls are kept warm but my sense is that even if they are, they will get cold in a hurry. Temperatures in the teens can pull away heat very fast. And if the ball is thrown, the convective forces of the wind over the ball will also pull heat away quickly.  

 

Edit - Brady and Allen's balls have been clocked at 60+ mph (wow). So even if the wind is still, the air over this thrown ball is moving at 60+ mph .

 

 

Edited January 12, 2022 by Fan in Chicago

[Son of a K-Gun]

34 minutes ago, HereComesTheReignAgain said:

 

Young McCorkle

[TH3]

1 hour ago, Stank_Nasty said:

I swear to god the whole Boston area is clinging to the bellicheck factor. It’s like their “break glass in case of emergency” last ditch effort. 
 

I just listened to a Boston radio guy on an ESPN interview talk for 3 minutes about how Bellicheck owns mcdermott and lives in his head…… after we’ve just taken the last 2 division titles and are 3-1 over the last 2 years. 
 

Elite mental gymnastics 

I live here in NE and there exists  - from 20 years of TB12GOAT - an entire industrial complex of Patriots tv and radio cheerleaders. It has been fun for two years - and I have to say - the level of production and capability makes Dope and Lapdog look like a Pre-k effort. The locals here are entertaining. 

 

They were on top of the world after Game 1. This week the story is basically all the same. There are some realists (20 percent - mostly the radio guys) who see MJ for what he is and know the Pats are up against it. The other 80 basically follow the same talking points (its almost like a political campaign) for the WC game.

 

#1 - Cherry pick Josh stats in cold weather

#2 - Include Josh rookie/2 year games vs Pats instead of just last 4 games.

#3 -  They went back to the 31-0 Milloy game yesterday to show Bills can win one...but Pats prevail in the end...

#4 - Josh regressed this year 

#5 through #10 - The 14-10 game

 

What is funny is they can't find a single thing the PATS are capable of doing to witn the game...simply grasping at ghosts of the past. 

 

 

 

[YoloinOhio]

Too wind today to benefit practice, as it doesn’t mimic projected game conditions 

 

 

[Motorin']

32 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

It's 5 days away 

 

5 days is 120 hours. Tuesday to Saturday is 96 hours. 

[MiltonWaddams]

8 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Too wind today to benefit practice, as it doesn’t mimic projected game conditions 

 

 

Turn off the heat and leave the doors open. 
 

Edited January 12, 2022 by MiltonWaddams

[Stank_Nasty]

1 minute ago, MiltonWaddams said:

Turn off the heat and leave the doors open. 
 

i think i'd honestly be storing the practice balls in a freezer.

[MiltonWaddams]

Just now, Stank_Nasty said:

i think i'd honestly be storing the practice balls in a freezer.

Chicken dinner for you my friend.

[CincyBillsFan]

I wish I could get paid big bucks to be a professional troll like Nick Wright!  I was watching a video where good old Nick stated with 100% confidence that the Bills and Allen were under the most pressure to win this weekend because a loss would not only be devastating to this season but would be devastating to the career of Allen and the future of the Bills franchise!! He went on to explain that the Bills could never recover from losing to a ROOKIE QB in the playoffs.

 

I would like to point out to Nick that:

 

*  The Chiefs are under every bit as much pressure as the Bills since along with the Bills they were projected as the lead Super Bowl contenders in the AFC.

 

*  And should the Bill's lose Saturday night, and I don't think they will, it will not be to a rookie QB. The loss will be to the greatest coach in the history of the NFL.

 

*  Allen is 25 years old and in his 4th season. If they lose it will only make him hungrier next year,  Ditto for McD & Bean who are both young and at the start of a long & successful run in Buffalo. To suggest a loss would destroy Allen's career and the Bills franchise is delusional.

 

*  I would submit that the team and QB facing by far the most pressure this weekend are the LA Rams and Matt Stafford.  The Rams have traded away their future to win a Super Bowl NOW.  And Stafford is nearing the end of a long career where he has NEVER WON a playoff game.  Should Arizona knock the Rams out of the playoffs and Stafford not play well that would have a bad impact on the QB and team going forward.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[nucci]

There's pressure on every team , player and coach in the playoffs. It's just normal

[BillnutinHouston]

11 hours ago, Rumblinstumblin said:

That's actually human nature. Don't remember where I heard about that, but people actually like to see the fall of somebody they don't support rather than the success of somebody they support. They get a bigger serotonin kick. Not everybody is like that, but a majority is. 

 

Schadenfreude 

[CincyBillsFan]

22 minutes ago, TH3 said:

I live here in NE and there exists  - from 20 years of TB12GOAT - an entire industrial complex of Patriots tv and radio cheerleaders. It has been fun for two years - and I have to say - the level of production and capability makes Dope and Lapdog look like a Pre-k effort. The locals here are entertaining. 

 

They were on top of the world after Game 1. This week the story is basically all the same. There are some realists (20 percent - mostly the radio guys) who see MJ for what he is and know the Pats are up against it. The other 80 basically follow the same talking points (its almost like a political campaign) for the WC game.

 

#1 - Cherry pick Josh stats in cold weather

#2 - Include Josh rookie/2 year games vs Pats instead of just last 4 games.

#3 -  They went back to the 31-0 Milloy game yesterday to show Bills can win one...but Pats prevail in the end...

#4 - Josh regressed this year 

#5 through #10 - The 14-10 game

 

What is funny is they can't find a single thing the PATS are capable of doing to witn the game...simply grasping at ghosts of the past. 

 

 

 

Allen has led the Bills to victory in 3 of their last 4 games against NE.  In those games Allen has thrown for 933 yards with 8 TD's and only 1 INT.  He has also rushed for 161 yards and scored a TD. So that's 9 total TD's ageist 1 TO. Not to shabby against one of the best defenses in the NFL.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[YoloinOhio]

13 minutes ago, MiltonWaddams said:

Turn off the heat and leave the doors open. 
 

It’s almost 40 degrees out, wouldn’t do much 

[Dont Stop Billeiving]

51 minutes ago, NewEra said:

That’s a different statement.  You said that he was throwing the ball just fine.  No…..he wasn’t. 50% completion is not just fine.  It’s poor.  Just because he can throw the ball with velocity doesn’t mean our passing game was fine.  It wasn’t fine.   He wasn’t “fine’ vs the falcons or jets either.  
 

the pats run D is trash. Much worse than ours.  Why would we not at least attempt to run?  In that first patriot game, we didn’t have a viable heavy set.  We used Sweeney on 13 plays and he’s terrible. Expect more running this sunday with Doyle taking Sweeney spot in the heavy set.  

Great point on that last part...getting Doyle more snaps over someone like Sweeney has been a really underrated factor in the improvement of the run game IMO.

 

I try to watch Spencer Brown and Tommy Doyle (on his limited snaps) as much as possible when re-watching the games. Given the projects/raw talent they were meant to be, the fact that we are getting this level of contribution from that pair is really impressive. Elite length and athleticism, I've enjoyed the finishing moves after the whistle as well!