Two of the three AFC Pro Bowl Quarterbacks fail to make the post season

[UKBillFan]

Know someone else made this point as well but as this ever happened with the Pro Bowl before?
 

All three QB’s from the NFC made the Play Offs.

[Warcodered]

none of the Probowlers from the #1 defense in the NFL made it either.

[ROCBillsBeliever]

Golly gee whillickers, it's almost as though the NFL still hates us...

[Malazan]

get over it imo. Who cares about the pro bowl? 

[Utah John]

The Colts, who are finished for the year, are sending seven players to the Pro Bowl, including three players on defense. 

 

None of this is a surprise.  The Pro Bowl goes to the WRs with the most catches and yards, the QBs with the most TD passes/fewest INTs, the RBs with the most yards, the defensive linemen with the most sacks, the DBs with the most INTs, and the LBs with sacks and INTs.  The Bills are built to win as a team, and except for Josh and Diggs, they don't have superstar players.  They don't have anyone with the best stats in the league for their positions.  So they're overlooked.  It sucks but it is what it is.  

 

Can you pick ONE player from the Bills' defense who should go?  This year the choice would probably be Poyer, but the falloff from Poyer to Hyde to Milano to Oliver to Phillips is pretty small.  

 

I say, fine, piss off these players and give them exactly one way to get eve with the world.  Win playoff games.  

[jlgarsh]

Poyer was the best safety in the league this year. Should not only be in the Pro Bowl, but All-Pro too.

[Warcodered]

22 minutes ago, jlgarsh said:

Poyer was the best safety in the league this year. Should not only be in the Pro Bowl, but All-Pro too.

With the Bills defense it's like they go "well they're all good so we can't give any one of them too much credit".

Edited January 10, 2022 by Warcodered

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

29 minutes ago, Utah John said:

The Colts, who are finished for the year, are sending seven players to the Pro Bowl, including three players on defense. 

 

None of this is a surprise.  The Pro Bowl goes to the WRs with the most catches and yards, the QBs with the most TD passes/fewest INTs, the RBs with the most yards, the defensive linemen with the most sacks, the DBs with the most INTs, and the LBs with sacks and INTs.  The Bills are built to win as a team, and except for Josh and Diggs, they don't have superstar players.  They don't have anyone with the best stats in the league for their positions.  So they're overlooked.  It sucks but it is what it is.  

 

Can you pick ONE player from the Bills' defense who should go?  This year the choice would probably be Poyer, but the falloff from Poyer to Hyde to Milano to Oliver to Phillips is pretty small.  

 

I say, fine, piss off these players and give them exactly one way to get eve with the world.  Win playoff games.  

Lamar Jackson met none of that criteria 

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

Herbert is very deserving despite sitting out the playoffs. But Jackson being voted in over Burrow and Allen is criminal. Really not sure why the NFL has to rush the pro-bowl voting. It's always completed with like 3 or 4 games left in the season. Jackson was having a down year to begin with and it turned out he never even returned to play this season. I got to believe if the voting was done at the conclusion of the season that somehow, some way Jackson would not make the pro bowl. At least i hope so. 

 

As to the question, why care? I agree. But unfortunately these things do come up all the time in HOF discussions. And I'm fairly positive at least a handful of the folks who vote on the HOF would be dumb enough to let number of pro-bowl appearances sway them. With every passing year the pro-bowl becomes a bigger and bigger joke though so by the time Allen is up for the HOF it probably won't even be given a second thought. Of course Allen is on pace to be a first ballot HOFer anyway and will leave no doubt. 

[Scott7975]

49 minutes ago, Utah John said:

The Colts, who are finished for the year, are sending seven players to the Pro Bowl, including three players on defense. 

 

None of this is a surprise.  The Pro Bowl goes to the WRs with the most catches and yards, the QBs with the most TD passes/fewest INTs, the RBs with the most yards, the defensive linemen with the most sacks, the DBs with the most INTs, and the LBs with sacks and INTs.  The Bills are built to win as a team, and except for Josh and Diggs, they don't have superstar players.  They don't have anyone with the best stats in the league for their positions.  So they're overlooked.  It sucks but it is what it is.  

 

Can you pick ONE player from the Bills' defense who should go?  This year the choice would probably be Poyer, but the falloff from Poyer to Hyde to Milano to Oliver to Phillips is pretty small.  

 

I say, fine, piss off these players and give them exactly one way to get eve with the world.  Win playoff games.  

 

Lamar Jackson.  Not that I really care about the Pro Bowl.

[Richard Noggin]

The Pro Bowl is not relevant. It's just an online poll of NFL player Q Scores/Q Ratings. I.e., a popularity contest. Great for gathering marketing intel. Useless for rewarding on-field play. 

[Saxum]

Great Lemur got into Pro Bowl on year the Nevermores need to give him a new contract.

[GunnerBill]

Jackson should never have got in. And last night was kind of everything I think about Herbert. He is super talented, he can make every single throw but man his fundamentals just get so loose at times. 

 

Not that Herbert was the reason LAC lost. It was a combination of defense and STs and the fact that under multiple Head Coaches, multiple different players and two different Quarterbacks... the Chargers are always gonna Charger.

[ProcessTruster]

Pro Bowl is a beauty contest rewarding the most marketable players IMO.   Josh isn't in that category as yet.   He will be in a few weeks !

[Mr. WEO]

There's the green light!

 

Time for a 3rd thread on this!!

[Southern Bills Fan]

Who cares. None of our guys can play in the pro bowl anyway because teams in the super bowl can’t have players play in it. 

[SoTier]

37 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

Jackson should never have got in. And last night was kind of everything I think about Herbert. He is super talented, he can make every single throw but man his fundamentals just get so loose at times. 

 

Not that Herbert was the reason LAC lost. It was a combination of defense and STs and the fact that under multiple Head Coaches, multiple different players and two different Quarterbacks... the Chargers are always gonna Charger.

 

For those who are too young to remember or who didn't follow football back then or just forgot, the Chargers Chargering goes back to the mid 2000s.  In the 2004 draft, the Chargers had the #1 pick and Eli Manning was the prime pick.  Eli stated he wouldn't play for SD, so the Chargers traded the #1 pick for the #4 pick and a carload of additional draft picks which the Chargers turned into a talent loaded roster.  For several years, they dominated the AFCW and were always the #1 or #2 AFC seed -- and they almost always were one and done in the playoffs.  Fans blamed HC Marty Schottenheimer.  As their talent declined, the Chargers started missing the playoffs -- sometimes in very strange ways but frequently finding ways to lose games they should win easily -- blame fell first on GM AJ Smith and later, QB Phillip Rivers. 

 

All the usual suspects are long gone.  The Chargers can't even blame the San Diego water supply since they've moved to LA, and they're still finding new ways to screw up.  Chargers are gonna Charger.

[thenorthremembers]

7 hours ago, Malazan said:

get over it imo. Who cares about the pro bowl? 

I would guess the guys who get bonus money when they make it.   I havent watched one in forever, but I imagine the players do care to an extent.

[Malazan]

2 hours ago, thenorthremembers said:

I would guess the guys who get bonus money when they make it.   I havent watched one in forever, but I imagine the players do care to an extent.

 

I can see how that affects you, personally, very deeply. 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

5 hours ago, SoTier said:

 

For those who are too young to remember or who didn't follow football back then or just forgot, the Chargers Chargering goes back to the mid 2000s.  In the 2004 draft, the Chargers had the #1 pick and Eli Manning was the prime pick.  Eli stated he wouldn't play for SD, so the Chargers traded the #1 pick for the #4 pick and a carload of additional draft picks which the Chargers turned into a talent loaded roster.  For several years, they dominated the AFCW and were always the #1 or #2 AFC seed -- and they almost always were one and done in the playoffs.  Fans blamed HC Marty Schottenheimer.  As their talent declined, the Chargers started missing the playoffs -- sometimes in very strange ways but frequently finding ways to lose games they should win easily -- blame fell first on GM AJ Smith and later, QB Phillip Rivers. 

 

All the usual suspects are long gone.  The Chargers can't even blame the San Diego water supply since they've moved to LA, and they're still finding new ways to screw up.  Chargers are gonna Charger.

The chargers team back then reminds me of what happened to the bills during our super bowl runs…they were great but the afc had two other powerhouses with hof qbs that they had to compete with every year.  Kind of like how we frequently saw an nfc east dynasty in the super bowl way back when.