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You can really gauge each poster's age by the composition of their list.

 

Lots of recency bias in the first page or two, but some solid all-time lists emerging in the last two pages. Difficult to judge the validity of anything comparing eras.

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1990 Bills

1991 Bills

1992 Bills

1993 Bills

2021 Bills

 

Sure some NFCE teams might have won the SB but as a Bills fan I am not acknowledging them :)

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20 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said:

I can only disagree because you don't include the perfect 1972 Miami Dolphins. They didn't have a lot of blowout victories, but I never had the feeling that the conclusion of the season was seriously in doubt - they were just superb in execution in all phases of the game, and they did have their stars - Griese, Csonka, Warfield, Buoniconti, that incredible O line. I hope the only reason nobody's mentioned them is it's before most people's time ...

Yep. You got it!

 

Griese was a star? 

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22 hours ago, Nextmanup said:

I will forever remember watching Bears games that year and thinking the Bears actually had the advantage on defense...like no one could really move the ball on them at all.

 

That's probably not quite right, but I don't ever recall a more dominating defense that literally controlled play and dictated the outcome of games.

 

 

What about the 2000 Ravens defense? I think they were nearly as dominant though I feel like the Bears team was more physically imposing. Different eras of course

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19 hours ago, Amaru523 said:

A couple teams that aren't on any lists, but deserve honorable mention for me, are the 86 Giants and 13 Seahawks. The 86 Giants only lost 2 games that year by a combined 8 points against a very tough schedule. Absolutely destroyed the 49ers in the playoffs 49-3, shutout the WTF, then ran away from the Broncos in the 2nd half to win the SB. LT MVP.

 

The 2013 Hawks had one of the best defensive backfields of all time and a damn good offense as well. Went 16-3, also against a very tough schedule. The Legion of Boom has to be considered one of the best defenses ever. Obliterated Peyton Manning in the SB.

 

 

 

 

I like your '86 Giant call. Worthy mention, imo.

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22 hours ago, WotAGuy said:

Honestly, I can’t remember individual teams, but by decade:

1960s Green Bay

1970s Pittsburgh

1980s San Francisco

1990s Buffalo

2000s New England

 

Interesting way of looking at it.  With 3 SB titles I think you have to give the 1990s to the Cowboys, with honorable mention to Elway and the Broncos.

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32 minutes ago, inaugural balls said:

 

Griese was a star? 

He's in the Hall of Fame.

In a larger sense, you are correct. Those Dolphins teams were unusual. The QB was never the big star - Csonka probably got more attention than Griese. And nobody ever really considered Griese the best QB of his time. In the early years most people probably (incorrectly in retrospect) rated Namath higher, then Staubach/Bradshaw with others mixed in (Tarkenton), and several others. And the Dolphins were so run heavy (it was a different era!) that Griese only completed 142 passes in 1970 - the year the Dolphins really got good - playing all 14 games. So 10 completions per game. Today he might be called a game manager. But a helluva game manager.

Just some perspective for our younger commenters ...

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4 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

He's in the Hall of Fame.

In a larger sense, you are correct. Those Dolphins teams were unusual. The QB was never the big star - Csonka probably got more attention than Griese. And nobody ever really considered Griese the best QB of his time. In the early years most people probably (incorrectly in retrospect) rated Namath higher, then Staubach/Bradshaw with others mixed in (Tarkenton), and several others. And the Dolphins were so run heavy (it was a different era!) that Griese only completed 142 passes in 1970 - the year the Dolphins really got good - playing all 14 games. So 10 completions per game. Today he might be called a game manager. But a helluva game manager.

Just some perspective for our younger commenters ...

Did not know Griese is in HoF.  I’m sure his numbers would look pretty pathetic by today’s standards…it was a different game back then.

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1 minute ago, The Frankish Reich said:

He's in the Hall of Fame.

In a larger sense, you are correct. Those Dolphins teams were unusual. The QB was never the big star - Csonka probably got more attention than Griese. And nobody ever really considered Griese the best QB of his time. In the early years most people probably (incorrectly in retrospect) rated Namath higher, then Staubach/Bradshaw with others mixed in (Tarkenton), and several others. And the Dolphins were so run heavy (it was a different era!) that Griese only completed 142 passes in 1970 - the year the Dolphins really got good - playing all 14 games. So 10 completions per game. Today he might be called a game manager. But a helluva game manager.

Just some perspective for our younger commenters ...

He doesn't belong in HOF but I also think 25 percent or more of the guys they let in dont belong in the HOF. You can't write history of NFL without 72 Dolphins but you can without Griese as their QB. He only played 6 of the 17 games.  

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2 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said:

He doesn't belong in HOF but I also think 25 percent or more of the guys they let in dont belong in the HOF. You can't write history of NFL without 72 Dolphins but you can without Griese as their QB. He only played 6 of the 17 games.  

Probably true. They were just as good with Earl Morrall (38 year old thought to be washed up QB) playing with Griese injured. But the line and the running game were soooo good it just didn't matter. That undefeated team still ranked #1 in offense.

Does he belong in the HOF? Not by stats. But the QB of the only perfect-record team in NFL history who also had a long and very good career is deserving by other standards.

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I've seen lots of great players live but sadly the only two teams people have mentioned that I have seen live is the 1990' era Bills and the 2013 Seahawks.  I was at the NFC Championship game. I saw 1979 Steelers as well but that was probably not their greatest team.

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29 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said:

Interesting way of looking at it.  With 3 SB titles I think you have to give the 1990s to the Cowboys, with honorable mention to Elway and the Broncos.

Never!! 

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28 minutes ago, Buffalo Junction said:

That and the Packers peaking right after Dallas and knocking the 49ers out three years in a row. 

They didn't have the longevity and pissed away their shot at repeating as Champs against a great Broncos team but people forget how great the Packers were for a couple years

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16 hours ago, FireChans said:

The 2007 Pats were better than the 90 Bills. 
 

unless you died before 2007 and are in fact a ghost, then never mind.

Due to their scandals in the past I don’t trust their success level👻

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2 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said:

He's in the Hall of Fame.

In a larger sense, you are correct. Those Dolphins teams were unusual. The QB was never the big star - Csonka probably got more attention than Griese. And nobody ever really considered Griese the best QB of his time. In the early years most people probably (incorrectly in retrospect) rated Namath higher, then Staubach/Bradshaw with others mixed in (Tarkenton), and several others. And the Dolphins were so run heavy (it was a different era!) that Griese only completed 142 passes in 1970 - the year the Dolphins really got good - playing all 14 games. So 10 completions per game. Today he might be called a game manager. But a helluva game manager.

Just some perspective for our younger commenters ...

 

Good post. The fact he's a HOFer always befuddled me. And you're right, a different era. 

 

 

 

 

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