Questions Surrounding a New Stadium in OP .

[Buffalo716]

6 hours ago, SoCal Deek said:

I disagree. You’re using the wrong measuring stick.  If they aren’t going to sell out when the team has now repeatedly made the playoffs, was a preseason super bowl favorite and has a young franchise QB, then it’s clearly something else that’s making people stay home. It’s not the ticket prices. They’re the lowest in the league. I’m guessing it’s not the disappearance of the Jills. It’s the weather conditions. The goal of Ownership is to fill seats. The dome is the answer. No brainer.

The goal of the Buffalo Bills is to sell tickets

 

And they still are in the top half in the NFL of tickets sold   

 

If They were selling 30-40,000 tickets a dome might make sense financially.. but they're selling 67,000 tickets.. a few thousand people not showing up in the corners is normal

 

That's normal across the NFL and those couple thousand tickets aren't enough to bring a dome.. thing is the revenue isn't much in ticket sales these days 

 

A few thousand more butts in the seats isn't financially enough of a gap to build the dome 

 

The bills average tickets sold is over 68,000 this season ... Upper and lower bowl hold 69,000 .. 2k in suites 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited January 9, 2022 by Buffalo716

[Einstein]

31 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

If They were selling 30-40,000 tickets a dome might make sense financially.. but they're selling 67,000 tickets.. a few thousand people not showing up in the corners is normal

 

 

 

That’s not normal.

 

Corners are full in warm months.

[Buffalo716]

4 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

That’s not normal.

 

Corners are full in warm months.

My point.. the corners are not full in most cold cities at the end of the year

 

But the tickets are still sold in buffalo

 

The bills sell the tickets, it's not like they're not sold.. if they were only selling 40,000 tickets it would be a problem

Edited January 9, 2022 by Buffalo716

[Einstein]

Just now, Buffalo716 said:

My point.. the corners are not full in most cold cities at the end of the year

 

But the tickets are still sold 

 

The bills sell the tickets it's not like they're not sold

 

I don’t know where you get this idea of the corners not being full in cold stadiums.

 

Im watching the Ravens game and their corners are packed. Patriot games have packed corners too. I guess you could say the Jets corners aren’t full, but that’s also because they suck.

[Buffalo716]

5 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

I don’t know where you get this idea of the corners not being full in cold stadiums.

 

Im watching the Ravens game and their corners are packed. Patriot games have packed corners too. I guess you could say the Jets corners aren’t full, but that’s also because they suck.

Green Bay only has 95% attendance according to the NFL ..  Giants 90© , jets 87%... Pitt 87%.. Cincinnati 92%

 

They Sell their tickets but they have a few thousand people not show up every day according to the NFL 

 

Bills are right there at 95%

 

Edited January 9, 2022 by Buffalo716

[Einstein]

7 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

Green Bay only has 95% attendance according to the NFL ..  Giants 90© , jets 87%... Pitt 87%.. Cincinnati 92%

 

They Sell their tickets but they have a few thousand people not show up every day according to the NFL 

 

Bills are right there at 95%

 

 

You can’t look at whole year stats - those include warm games.

 

For example - Bills/Miami in October when it was still somewhat warm, had nearly 98% attendance.

 

Last week against Atlanta, when it was cold, was barely over 90%.
 

 

 

 

 

[Buffalo716]

6 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

You can’t look at whole year stats - those include warm games.

 

For example - Bills/Miami in October when it was still somewhat warm, had nearly 98% attendance.

 

Last week against Atlanta, when it was cold, was barely over 90%.
 

 

 

 

 

64,948 attendance 

 

There's only 69,000 seats in the bowls.. 

 

That's a couple thousand people and that's not a big enough reason to build a dome.. 49,000 attendance would be scary if that was happening consistently 

 

65,000 is not a bad crowd

 

 

 

Edited January 9, 2022 by Buffalo716

[Einstein]

7 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

64,948 attendance 

 

There's only 69,000 seats in the bowls.. 

 

That's a couple thousand people and that's not a big enough reason to build a dome.. 49,000 attendance would be scary if that was happening consistently 

 

65,000 is not a bad crowd

 

 

 

 

Completely disagree.

 

There are over 71k seats. They barely broke 90%.
 

PS, Packers had 97% for a 18 degree game against the Vikings last week.

[Buffalo716]

2 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

Completely disagree.

 

There are over 71k seats. They barely broke 90%.
 

PS, Packers had 97% for a 18 degree game against the Vikings last week.

The Packers are sitting at the same percentage as the bills basically

 

It's the only thing you could judge it on

 

And there are 69,000 seats in the bowls and 2000 suites 

 

So put a thousand people in the suites.. putting 63948 in the bowl.. 5 k off full

Edited January 9, 2022 by Buffalo716

[Einstein]

14 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

The Packers are sitting at the same percentage as the bills basically

 

It's the only thing you could judge it on

 

And there are 69,000 seats in the bowls and 2000 suites 

 

So put a thousand people in the suites.. putting 63948 in the bowl.. 5 k off full

 

Again, you’re mixing warm game stats and cold game stats.

 

Cant do that.

 

Bills are 97+% in warm games and barely above 90% in cold games.

[Buffalo716]

4 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

Again, you’re mixing warm game stats and cold game stats.

 

Cant do that.

 

Bills are 97+% in warm games and barely above 90% in cold games.

I don't think that difference is big enough to build a dome

 

If the bills were at 75 or 80% maybe

[Buffalo Barbarian]

Hopefully the new stadium will block the wind.

 

 

[Saxum]

Original stadium was blocking wind but due to some problems the stadium needed to be rotated which caused current issues.

 

I think the Bills could have put up an outside wall to reduce the issue but they treated it as "home field advantage" that their players could adjust to.

[Buffalo Barbarian]

2 hours ago, Limeaid said:

Original stadium was blocking wind but due to some problems the stadium needed to be rotated which caused current issues.

 

I think the Bills could have put up an outside wall to reduce the issue but they treated it as "home field advantage" that their players could adjust to.

 

That has proven false 

 

 

[BillnutinHouston]

On 1/8/2022 at 9:28 AM, HamptonBillsfan said:

Just curious, did government decision makers poll Buffalo and Suburban residents as to their preference regarding a dome. This is small market thinking at its best. Deny western NY a new stadium for decades opting in favor of refurbishment, and then go cheap in the most horrific weather location in the country. Did they consider the corporate preferences considering their boxes will represent a good % of revenue. This team, with an elite QB, and great receivers, along with a defense with speed would benefit from perfect conditions. Fans would flock to a state of the art, ultramodern retractable roof stadium. Speaking for  myself, coming from LI, I would make a family tradition out of seeing a high leverage Dec game or playoff,  an annual. 

 

Makes no sense to poll residents who don't go to games.  The Bills did poll season ticket holders, in other words, those whose opinions matter. 

[HamptonBillsfan]

Why so territorial? How do you know these poor timid souls wouldn't love to go to a game in Dec,or Jan in perfect conditions? These people who haven't gone as yet, still pay taxes earmarked for the new stadium. 

[purple haze]

11 hours ago, HamptonBillsfan said:

Understood,but couldn't the same be said for the games here in January if there's a lake effect snowstorm. I have lived in Arizona, and most games from October's on are just fine. Same situation in LA and Vegas. 

You can dress for the cold.  Nothing at all you can do about the heat. Butt naked you’d still be hot.

[HamptonBillsfan]

15 minutes ago, purple haze said:

You can dress for the cold.  Nothing at all you can do about the heat. Butt naked you’d still be hot.

Have you ever gone to a game in a dome? Bills fans would blow the roof off. The noise would be impossible for a road team to deal with. 

[Jrb1979]

7 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

The Packers are sitting at the same percentage as the bills basically

 

It's the only thing you could judge it on

 

And there are 69,000 seats in the bowls and 2000 suites 

 

So put a thousand people in the suites.. putting 63948 in the bowl.. 5 k off full

That's all well and good with what the ticket prices are today. Will the stadium be full when the new stadium comes and tickets are much higher in price? There is no way they stay in the bottom quarter of teams in terms of ticket price. The days of tickets costing less then $100 are over. 

[Buffalo716]

5 minutes ago, Jrb1979 said:

That's all well and good with what the ticket prices are today. Will the stadium be full when the new stadium comes and tickets are much higher in price? There is no way they stay in the bottom quarter of teams in terms of ticket price. The days of tickets costing less then $100 are over. 

It's going to be 60,000 capacity stadium 

 

Which seems to fit perfectly with how many come weekly

 

Build it for increased noise and our 60,000 will sound like lunatics