Questions Surrounding a New Stadium in OP .

[Buffalo716]

7 minutes ago, Dr. Who said:

I like your posts Nanook, but it seems to me the recent home game against Pats* somehow turned out to be advantage black hats, though perhaps that was coaching. I think they held Allen back. Still think if you have an elite offense, optimum conditions favor your team. Also, the older I get, the less I like to freeze. Logic posted some designs that cut down on the wind, which is a fair compromise, though I take it you would be opposed to this as well.

If you could cut down wind with a design I don't think that would be a problem

 

I still think a lot of quarterbacks which struggle here and that would only make Josh Allen better

 

I think surrounding him with hogs that can keep him upright and get a ground game going will help make his dual threat skills go to a different level

 

And our offense might be uncontainable

[Dr. Who]

Just now, Buffalo716 said:

If you could cut down wind with a design I don't think that would be a problem

 

I still think a lot of quarterbacks which struggle here and that would only make Josh Allen better

 

I think surrounding him with hogs that can keep him upright and get a ground game going will help make his dual threat skills go to a different level

 

And our offense might be uncontainable

Dome or not, I hope this happens. 

[clayboy54]

The real question is what happens to the old burial ground? We don't need to stir-up the spirits and get another drought.

[Beast]

It will all be new.

 

The Bills will be playing at New Era 7 months prior to the new palace opening. Most of the stadium will be completed by then and everything at New Era will be needed until the final whistle at the end of the AFC Championship game.

Edited January 7, 2022 by Beast

[Saxum]

3 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

"...Mem'ries may be beautiful and yet
What's too painful to remember
We simply choose to forget

So it's the laughter we will remember
Whenever we remember the way we were

The way we were"

 

 

I want the seat we sat in during the 2009 Cleveland game when the Bills lost 6-3. My life is worthless without that bench.  I will gladly pay 8 dollars for it!  😌...

 

 

 

8 dollars seems overpriced for your life....

[QCity]

2 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

If people want a dome .. you should just say you want a dome because you don't want to sit in the elements 

 

 

Amen. Stop this nonsense about hosting Super bowls, NCAA games, winter stadium concerts, and all these other fairytale dreams. Just say "I'm fat and old and I can't take the cold weather anymore." That's honestly the best argument.

[Since1981]

you people kill me. Have you looked outside today and honestly feel that it’s a recruitment advantage? (Ask Mr Tampa Brady)

[LabattBlue]

3 hours ago, SoCal Deek said:

If the State of NY along with the Owner can’t pool their collective resources to construct a simple dome stadium on property they already own and with virtually no additional infrastructure costs to bear…there’s really something WRONG!

100% agree!!!!

[cba fan]

2 hours ago, QCity said:

 

Amen. Stop this nonsense about hosting Super bowls, NCAA games, winter stadium concerts, and all these other fairytale dreams. Just say "I'm fat and old and I can't take the cold weather anymore." That's honestly the best argument.

nobody wants to sit in the elements. Even the old guard who want the open air weather want a roof over their heads, heated seats, radiant heat lights above. Why? How can they enjoy "Buffalo Bills weather" like that.

 

People with money sit in the clubs so they can go inside.

 

Then you have open air proponent owners who never sit outside. Always in climate controlled suites. 

Makes no sense.

 

 

[Ga boy]

13 hours ago, Jauronimo said:

They can probably reuse a lot of the copper wiring or at least sell it for scrap to save money.  Every little bit helps!

How bout the stadium lights?  I'd like a bank of those to repurpose for security lights on the 4 corners of my house with motion detectors.  Go Bills.

 

[BillsVet]

8 hours ago, purple haze said:

How have the scope and quality been reduced?  How big a stadium does Buffalo need?  60-65,000 is perfect.  The quality will most likely be very high.  1.4 or so billion isn’t “cheap.”
 

If they put a roof on the new stadium would the scope and quality suit you then?  

 

I'm not big on trusting politicians and owners to represent the interest of people as much as I used to think.  

 

I haven't seen much from the Pegula's to believe they're in it for the fans as much as some once thought. 10+ years into their ownership of Buffalo teams I don't need  to explain why.  

[Ga boy]

8 hours ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said:

I’m guessing the field house and training facility would remain there, since it’s relatively new and considered state of the art … maybe the area would become “MafiaVille, with hotels and restaurants ( I actually laughed as I wrote that, knowing it will NEVER happen), but more than likely, it’s a parking lot. 

IF it becomes parking lot, I hope they mark significant game moments on the asphalt like Willie Parker of Steelers scored a TD here to squash Bills playoffs spot, or OJ broke season rushing record on this spot, Jim Kelly got sacked here to end his career, or Frank Reich threw winning touchdown from this spot in greatest comeback, and on and on.  This could be a separate thread someday.  Marks all over the parking lot.   They did this in a parking lot in Atlanta to mark Hank's 715 homerun.  Go Bills!!

[Doc Brown]

8 hours ago, Big Turk said:

 

Not happening. Hochul already said wherever he wants the stadium is where it's going to be and New York State will do it's part.

 

What if Josh Allen demands a trade unless the new stadium is a dome?  Time to step up #17.

[purple haze]

6 hours ago, BTB said:

100% agree!!!!

They can easily do it if they wanted to. They don’t want to do it.  That’s why it’s not happening.

[purple haze]

1 hour ago, BillsVet said:

 

I'm not big on trusting politicians and owners to represent the interest of people as much as I used to think.  

 

I haven't seen much from the Pegula's to believe they're in it for the fans as much as some once thought. 10+ years into their ownership of Buffalo teams I don't need  to explain why.  

They are in it to make money.  It’s a business.  Within that they do Fan engagement.  Their research with fans came up that the majority who responded wanted open air and to keep the tailgating tradition.  And that’s the stadium they’re choosing to have.  They’re meeting the fans who want a roof with the overhang over the seats to stave off the elements.

Edited January 8, 2022 by purple haze

[Since1981]

The real money is made when you are fielding a quality team. Ticket revenue for 60,000 vs 70,000 seat capacity revenue is in the noise. For perspective, Bills revenue is $50M/yr from tickets, out of $350M/yr revenue. 

[Since1981]

I surrender! our governor wants to showcase manhood (but wasn’t that the last creepy governor?)  So, FA, competitives….nope. We showcase our manhood for 59 yrs
 

JAN 7: “To keep it open air is part of the Buffalo bravado,” Hochul said, “which people love to showcase.”

[Buffalo716]

10 hours ago, SoCal Deek said:

If the State of NY along with the Owner can’t pool their collective resources to construct a simple dome stadium on property they already own and with virtually no additional infrastructure costs to bear…there’s really something WRONG!

Maybe all the statistics they have looked towards don't point towards a dome 

 

12 and 1 at the Ralph in postseason games.. which aren't great weather 

 

Jack kemp Jim Kelly and Josh Allen give us all an advantage 90% of the league doesn't have.. quarterback who could throw in not great weather 

 

It's not about being perfect.. it's about being better than the other team's quarterback..  and almost no quarterback will come to January at the Ralph and play well 

 

A dome will give lesser quarterbacks the chance to play an amazing game and that's the only fact

[ganesh]

16 hours ago, I'm Spartacus said:

What happens to the old stadium? Does it get demolished? Does it stay intact for Bills practices or high school games?

probably like this

 

 

[Beast]

I love the excuses fans make for wanting a dome. “Recruiting! Who will want to play in these conditions???”

 

Meanwhile, in Green Bay, Pittsburgh, New England……

 

I would like to see a dome as well but not having one is not going to hurt a team like Buffalo that has Josh Allen and a stable organization.