Tommy Callahan Posted January 7, 2022 Posted January 7, 2022 its a damn shame. I wont support the NYT at all. but love the athletic. 2 1 1 Quote
buffalonian Posted January 7, 2022 Posted January 7, 2022 10 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: As a close reader of the Times for decades, their sports section is both bad and very politically oriented (to be sure, they do have a couple of excellent writers like Tyler Kepner on baseball). For years, they led the “war on football” (they published the first concussion stories), but they seem to have given that up in the last couple of years given the sport’s continuing resounding popularity (i.e., they seem to know they lost the “war”). They also treat sports that very few in the US care about -- the premier league, the WNBA, etc. — as the equals of major US sports. They treat soccer in particular as somehow major, as if they possess the power to push Americans to embrace the world’s true global sport. It’s kind of laughable. It’s all quite political and fairly obvious too. That said, the paper’s reporting on politics, its international coverage (especially), its coverage of culture, the economy, etc. remains second to none when viewed as a totality. …but have you subscribed to the NYT’s cooking section? I finally did. It’s worth it. I live in a house with a vegan, a vegetarian, and a fully devoted carnivore, among others. The NYT cooking app has helped ease my dinner time pain. 1 Quote
Royale with Cheese Posted January 7, 2022 Posted January 7, 2022 5 hours ago, BringBackFlutie said: You know Applebee's already has ketchup, right? They also have A-1 Sauce. Quote
Inigo Montoya Posted January 7, 2022 Posted January 7, 2022 1 hour ago, dave mcbride said: I have subscribed to the NY Times and have for 30+ years. I would never subscribe to the Athletic. If this means I get free Athletic content, excellent. That would definitely be a nice bonus for you. Quote
RoyBatty is alive Posted January 7, 2022 Posted January 7, 2022 THe New York Times effectively got rid of their stand alone sports section a few years ago, Ironic they would buy the Athletic now. 1 Quote
BillsFan4 Posted January 7, 2022 Posted January 7, 2022 Well, their customer service can’t get any worse than it already is, that’s for sure. Its completely non-existent now. They don’t even have a way to talk to a live person. I had a billing issue and I tried for weeks to talk to anyone at the athletic. I reached out to them in every way I could think of. There’s no phone number so I sent emails and messages on every social media platform they’re on. I also sent private Twitter messages to a # of different writers and editors, etc. I never got a response from anyone. They have an email address but it’s a bot answering emails. They never actually tell you it’s a bot but I figured it out when it could not understand my issue no matter how many different ways I tried to word it. Some of the ridiculous responses from the bot trying to understand my issue would have almost been comical if the whole episode wasn’t so infuriating. I cancelled my athletic subscription but maybe I’ll consider renewing if they start treating their customers better. Giving customers a way to contact an actual live person at the athletic (even just via email) would be a start. 1 Quote
Mr. WEO Posted January 7, 2022 Posted January 7, 2022 20 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: THe New York Times effectively got rid of their stand alone sports section a few years ago, Ironic they would buy the Athletic now. No, the irony is that the Athletic, which said upon its start that they would continuously bleed and suck dry every newspaper's sports section of talent until they were the only ones left standing...has been taken by a newspaper. 1 Quote
dave mcbride Posted January 7, 2022 Posted January 7, 2022 33 minutes ago, buffalonian said: …but have you subscribed to the NYT’s cooking section? I finally did. It’s worth it. I live in a house with a vegan, a vegetarian, and a fully devoted carnivore, among others. The NYT cooking app has helped ease my dinner time pain. Their cooking section is incredible. The best around, and it ain't close. 1 Quote
bigK14094 Posted January 7, 2022 Posted January 7, 2022 13 hours ago, AmishRifle said: Here’s a copy of the email I received as a subscriber: Today marks an incredible milestone for The Athletic. We are thrilled to announce that we have entered into an agreement to be acquired by The New York Times Company, a transaction that is expected to close in the first quarter of 2022. The New York Times Company has set the standard for excellence in journalism, and as we look towards the future, their support will enable us to continue producing the best sports coverage on earth for an even wider audience. Nothing about your The Athletic subscription is changing at this time. We will continue to invest in our world-class newsroom and the local and national coverage you can’t get anywhere else. We cannot mark this important moment without offering our profound gratitude to you, our subscribers. When we founded the company in 2016, we hoped to become the sports page for every city worldwide. Your readership and unwavering support have allowed us to hire the best people in the business who in turn create the best sports content in the world. Here’s to the future of The Athletic with The New York Times Company behind us. Thank you for believing in the power of great sports journalism and for supporting us as we embark on this new chapter. Onward! Adam & Alex Co-Founders of The Athletic Actually, it was an article in the daily e-mail I get. 37 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: THe New York Times effectively got rid of their stand alone sports section a few years ago, Ironic they would buy the Athletic now. They were weak in the extreme in the Sports area, and this is also an attempt to bootstrap that deficient journalistic coverage. (All the News that is fit to print) Quote
Nester Posted January 7, 2022 Posted January 7, 2022 Well I am out. shame, the athletic is really nice NY times is pure evil, I won’t support them in anyway. 4 5 1 Quote
RyanC883 Posted January 7, 2022 Posted January 7, 2022 15 hours ago, Doc said: It was nice knowing you The Athletic… watch it turn into ESPN or SI. I want sports, not some random journalists take on how sports "intersect" with this or that. 2 Quote
WhoTom Posted January 7, 2022 Posted January 7, 2022 14 hours ago, Bruce Smith said: I cancelled today. "Cancel culture" strikes again. 4 Quote
RyanC883 Posted January 7, 2022 Posted January 7, 2022 11 hours ago, Mango said: I was thinking about this the other day, data is to the economy what older generations mortgage debt is. With the younger generation having higher expenses and less income than generations past, there is less private debt to buy and sell. Companies are buying and selling my information rather than my loan. that's an interesting take. Heck, companies want to buy and sell both now. Also, this opens up an avenue for an alternative to the Athletic to arrive. A true, independent sports outlet. Would be interesting to see the Athletic have its staff stolen by some new venture. Quote
Mango Posted January 7, 2022 Posted January 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: that's an interesting take. Heck, companies want to buy and sell both now. Also, this opens up an avenue for an alternative to the Athletic to arrive. A true, independent sports outlet. Would be interesting to see the Athletic have its staff stolen by some new venture. I knew a guy years ago that was developing a stock trading game/app that didn't deal in real money. A fantasy trading app if you will. Half of the country does not participate in the stock market, and way less than that participate actively. He wanted to collect peoples data and track their spending habits. It didn't pan out, but to the point it was never about the app, it was about getting ahold of peoples data and natural investing habits. Quote
WhoTom Posted January 7, 2022 Posted January 7, 2022 5 hours ago, GunnerBill said: My argument is it has always been thus. Politics and sport have been intertwined since the beginning of time. Mussolini's World Cup. Hitler's Olympics. Sport is politics and politics is sport. Good points. To add to those examples, baseball had a separate league for Blacks until "woke politics" allowed Jackie Robinson into MLB to break the racial barrier. NFL players of different races weren't allowed to share a hotel room for road games until the "woke" Brian Piccolo and Gayle Sayres did it anyways. As Hank Aaron was approaching Babe Ruth's HR record, he needed a police escort whenever he left his house. Like any form of entertainment, sports have been used to get a message across, whether it's political, social, or otherwise. In that respect, it's no different than film, literature, and visual art. 2 1 2 Quote
notwoz Posted January 7, 2022 Posted January 7, 2022 16 hours ago, BruceVilanch said: Customer data is the biggest commodity right now. That's right. We're not customers, we (our data) are the product. 1 Quote
The Frankish Reich Posted January 7, 2022 Posted January 7, 2022 16 hours ago, RunTheBall said: I subscribe to the Athletic, the NYT and the WSJ. Same here. 2 hours ago, Nester said: Well I am out. shame, the athletic is really nice NY times is pure evil, I won’t support them in anyway. Too late. You are already supporting them as they have all your Athletic customer data. (Go back and read that 11 page terms of service document) 1 Quote
Freddie's Dead Posted January 7, 2022 Posted January 7, 2022 The NYT Editorial Board will screw up The Athletic, just like they screwed up their newspaper years ago. 1 2 2 Quote
K-9 Posted January 7, 2022 Posted January 7, 2022 I gotta wonder if some of the responses in this thread would be different if News Corp was buying The Athletic instead. 2 5 1 Quote
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