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"I'm gonna make them look like they're the smartest people out there." 

He really has.

 

And I will not take this opportunity to, once again, post the link of Mina Kimes screeching about our poor decision in her draft coverage. As I am a mature adult and satisfied with the knowledge that we've won the 2018 draft. I no longer need to rub it in. I wish her the best of luck and hope she's 

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46 minutes ago, corta765 said:

I wish someone video'd my reaction as I nearly lost it when they picked Josh ( I wanted Rosen). Would've been a good laugh now

 

I really believe if he was drafted anywhere else not NYJ he probably is a serviceable starter. He got the crap beat in and you can see it now where he is unsure of making a throw because of protection and past "ghosts'. Not saying he is a star but the Jets did everything wrong for Sam. The Browns at least tried to do the same as the Bills:

-Give QB a solid line

-Give him good WRs

-Coaching that tries to utilize the QB's best talents

-Defense that is solid enough to shoulder the load as the QB grows

 

The Jets just tried to rush to be a contender year 2 which mixed with Gase was a disaster. I still couldn't believe they didn't try to sign Morse or Paradis to help Sam.

I think I didn't quite have the same optimism for Sam, but I think his time in Carolina has shown he is what he is at this point. I think it would take a Sean Peyton to maybe resurrect his career and that's if it's even possible

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1 minute ago, Mark Vader said:

Thanks for this. Always fun to re-read this thread.

 

@GunnerBill How much heat have you taken for your comment? :lol:

 

Haha, plenty. And all of it deserved. 

 

I did after the 2020 season go back and watch his Wyoming games again. I still wouldn't draft him in the 1st on the basis of them 😀. Luckily enough the Bills looked more at what he could be than what he was. 

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too bad my favourite part of that day is not in that video or available to be seen elsewhere.

 

it was the phonecall right before the pick, from Beane to Allen:

 

Beane "You ready to be a Bill?"

 

Allen "Yes, sir."

 

it was short and sweet but somehow from that moment on i knew that Allen was their guy all along and that he was going to be special.

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18 hours ago, FilthyBeast said:

I still wonder if Mayfield or Darnold were on the board if Beane would have made the same deal to move up and get them or draft them at our original spot.

 

There are rumors that there was one other guy the Bills would have taken aside from Allen, or even over Allen if both were available.

 

Either way Allen remains one of the biggest outliers in recent history, maybe all time in terms of QB evaluation.

 

You know next to nothing about the Bills' process.

 

Correction:  you know nothing about the Bills' process.

 

Allen was always their guy.  Who plays QB for your team?

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20 hours ago, WickedGame said:

There’s a small moment in that video that says everything you need to know about Josh Allen. In the biggest moment of his young career, seconds after being selected, he pointedly breaks off an embrace with Goodell to go shake hands with the Bills fan on stage. 
 

Lots of players shake hands with fans, but it was the way he moved Goodell aside and made a point of greeting this fan that sticks with me. It’s just 2-3 seconds in a whirlwind, but it shows Josh knew, even then, how important the fans are to this game…and how important he would become to them. 

Agreed..I had the same feeling on that day when I was watching the live broadcast...It was such a great moment for him to not forget the fan. It meant a lot to him.

16 hours ago, Bigvinny said:

Somebody went on and on about "you can't teach accuracy".  I swear it was Aikman and all I could think was he was a UCLA Homer and wanted Rosen to be picked.

It was Aikman on the Fox/NFL broadcast.

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I absolutely hated this pick, I wanted Rosen. When they called the pick "the Bills select Josh......." my face was 😃, but then Allen came out of his mouth and it was 😒🙄🤮, I sat there for about a half hour with a disgusted look on my face shaking my head. All I can say is.... it's a good thing I'm not the GM. I gladly eat crow and have multiple Josh Allen jerseys, couldn't be happier with the pick now.

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16 hours ago, Bigvinny said:

Somebody went on and on about "you can't teach accuracy".  I swear it was Aikman and all I could think was he was a UCLA Homer and wanted Rosen to be picked.

 

It was Aikman. When the Bills were on the clock he was openly campaigning for Rosen. I get the impression an executive got to him and told him to chill, because he eased back a little bit when then Bills took Allen over Rosen. Said he understood why the Bills did it because (in a snooty tone) "Allen was a good fit for Buffalo".

 

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8 minutes ago, 2003Contenders said:

 

It was Aikman. When the Bills were on the clock he was openly campaigning for Rosen. I get the impression an executive got to him and told him to chill, because he eased back a little bit when then Bills took Allen over Rosen. Said he understood why the Bills did it because (in a snooty tone) "Allen was a good fit for Buffalo".

 

 

Wonder how Aikman feels about his boy Rosen now ? 

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3 hours ago, Sharky7337 said:

I think I didn't quite have the same optimism for Sam, but I think his time in Carolina has shown he is what he is at this point. I think it would take a Sean Peyton to maybe resurrect his career and that's if it's even possible

 

Too loose with the football, and not a big enough playmaker to be that loose.  Too inconsistent on the easy stuff, inconsistent footwork, and not a top tier arm.  He can make some great plays from time to time, but he doesn't have the athleticism or arm strength to do it consistently enough at this level.  

 

Surround him with some top end talent and I think he'd do just fine - he's never really had that.  He had CMC - he got hurt.  Moore and Anderson are solid, but the line injuries pretty much got him beat up this season.  The jets never really could put anything of note together for him.  Maybe 3rd time is a charm... but usually the 3rd team is when you're no longer the guy.    

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27 minutes ago, Amaru523 said:

I absolutely hated this pick, I wanted Rosen. When they called the pick "the Bills select Josh......." my face was 😃, but then Allen came out of his mouth and it was 😒🙄🤮, I sat there for about a half hour with a disgusted look on my face shaking my head. All I can say is.... it's a good thing I'm not the GM. I gladly eat crow and have multiple Josh Allen jerseys, couldn't be happier with the pick now.

 

I remember telling my buddies at the bar that it needed to be Allen.  I always liked his fire and competitiveness - i also remember watching a Wyoming game that year and he made a throw on a speed out that was an absolute dime.  LJ my concerns were the football IQ and arm strength, but i also thought if you just built the offense around this guy in a certain way you might have something.  Rosen... just seemed like a smug jerk - I didn't want Jay Cutler's attitude with Matt Leinarts arm.  

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