Mr. WEO Posted January 6, 2022 Posted January 6, 2022 I can get with Rodgers calling a guy "a bum". lol But, outside of AB, is there a more thirsty NFL player in the league right now than Aaron Rodgers? Quote
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted January 6, 2022 Posted January 6, 2022 I've felt that since the incident occurred that Rodgers MVP candidacy was in jeopardy. Out of 50 voters there are enough who hate his guts and will privately express it with their vote. It wouldn't take much to give it to Jonathan Taylor or even Brady. 2 Quote
Dr. Who Posted January 6, 2022 Posted January 6, 2022 Just now, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said: I've felt that since the incident occurred that Rodgers MVP candidacy was in jeopardy. Out of 50 voters there are enough who hate his guts and will privately express it with their vote. It wouldn't take much to give it to Jonathan Taylor or even Brady. I guess there are still folks who watch the Academy Awards. Others write them off as a bunch of preening narcissists who collectively endorse the work of the like-minded. Anyway, a certain amount of subjectivity is allowed. There is a tilt point, however, after which merit wars with tribal allegiances and the whole thing becomes irrelevant except to those who are part of the clique. Objectively, I think Rodgers should get it as the success of the team is normally factored in. 1 Quote
billsfan1959 Posted January 6, 2022 Posted January 6, 2022 8 minutes ago, Beerball said: So, disregard anything that didn’t happen “between the white lines?” The MVP Award is about the most valuable player, as in who is the best player in the NFL and most valuable to his team. It is a subjective process, but last I looked, the critria are pretty much confined to the play on the field. His numbers, as well as the fact that the team is 13 -1 this year with him on the field and 0-1 without him, put him right at the top of that list. Until they change the nature of the award and intent, that is all that matters. Aaron Rodgers might be a complete douche. It is irrelevant. IMHO, OJ Simpson is a murdering piece of s*** and should be in prison for the rest of his life. However, If you are going to ask me to vote on the best running back of all time, then he is in that discussion. The NFL has awards that exemplify sportsmanship, community involvement, and other things that center around character and behavior. The MVP Award is not one of them. If the want it to be, then they should change the criteria. 3 Quote
BuffaloRebound Posted January 6, 2022 Posted January 6, 2022 Well, if he wasn’t before Rodgers is definitely winning MVP now. I think he deserves to win for his play on the field. I also think he’s a flaming d-bag narcissist. One has nothing to do with the other. 2 Quote
Son of a K-Gun Posted January 6, 2022 Posted January 6, 2022 16 minutes ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said: I've felt that since the incident occurred that Rodgers MVP candidacy was in jeopardy. Out of 50 voters there are enough who hate his guts and will privately express it with their vote. It wouldn't take much to give it to Jonathan Taylor or even Brady. I see what you did there 😉 I mentioned in the MVP thread that nobody holds a grudge like a sportswriter. Back in the early 90's (so pre-PED's) Barry Bonds was far and away the best player in the National League. The writers couldn't stand him (because he was a jerk) and gave the MVP to Terry Pendleton. Rodgers lied to the media and played them for fools. Now the media gets to vote for the MVP. Hub isn't likely the only writer looking at Rodgers this way. Quote “I can guarantee you I will not be the only one not voting for him,” Arkush said. 1 Quote
CaptnCoke11 Posted January 6, 2022 Posted January 6, 2022 Sports writers shouldn’t have any say whatsoever who wins the MVP award. 2 Quote
NewEra Posted January 6, 2022 Posted January 6, 2022 1 hour ago, FLFan said: All the writer did was speak the truth about what he thinks of Rogers- that he is an arrogant selfish jerk. He has been for a long time and that is not related to vaccination status, respite Rogers claim. He just is and keeps proving it. There is a strong argument to be made there based on many factors. I am sure he is not the only voter that feels that way, and not the only voter whose vote will be influenced by that, just the one dumb enough to say it out loud. All he did was likely get his right to vote for the MVP rescinded. Dude said that he won’t vote for him because he thought he was a jerk….. and that has nothing to do with his play on the field. This bum doesn’t deserve to have a vote. 2 Quote
billsfan1959 Posted January 6, 2022 Posted January 6, 2022 49 minutes ago, Gugny said: Hub isn't a bum. But he is a wuss. Should've stood by what he said ... because it was true. It might be true, but Arkush should never have said it. As a voter, he has an obligation to not talk about it. He admitted that all voters are instructed to not talk about their vote prior to the announcement when he says, "But one of the ways we get to keep being voters is we're not allowed to say who we are voting for until after the award has been announced...What they really mean is just don't talk about it, and the reason, in part, is because of exactly what's happened here." He also stated "Has he been the most valuable on the field? Yeah, you could make that argument, but I don't think he is clearly that much more valuable than..." When he says he doesn't think Rodgers is "that much more valuable," he is admitting he thinks Rodgers is more valuable. So by his own admission, he states he believes Rodgers was the most valuable player on the field - but, regardless, he is not going to vote for him because of criteria other than his performance on the field. By his own actions, it appears he feels he is above following established rules, obligations, and protocol. Which essentially makes him about as much of a douche as Rodgers. 2 Quote
Kaep Posted January 6, 2022 Posted January 6, 2022 If Goodell had a set, Rodgers would have been suspended like AB and statistically would not be in the MVP discussion. 2 Quote
Malazan Posted January 6, 2022 Posted January 6, 2022 Aaron Rodgers doing his best to prove the guy was right. Quote
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 6, 2022 Posted January 6, 2022 22 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: The MVP Award is about the most valuable player, as in who is the best player in the NFL and most valuable to his team. It is a subjective process, but last I looked, the critria are pretty much confined to the play on the field. His numbers, as well as the fact that the team is 13 -1 this year with him on the field and 0-1 without him, put him right at the top of that list. Until they change the nature of the award and intent, that is all that matters. Aaron Rodgers might be a complete douche. It is irrelevant. IMHO, OJ Simpson is a murdering piece of s*** and should be in prison for the rest of his life. However, If you are going to ask me to vote on the best running back of all time, then he is in that discussion. The NFL has awards that exemplify sportsmanship, community involvement, and other things that center around character and behavior. The MVP Award is not one of them. If the want it to be, then they should change the criteria. I don’t disagree with the first sentence. But the rest of it makes it seem as though you feel MVP is an award for being a prominent player on the team with the most wins. 3 minutes ago, Kaep said: If Goodell had a set, Rodgers would have been suspended like AB and statistically would not be in the MVP discussion. For what? He broke the protocols and got fined for it - maybe not as much as the various violations should have justified, but the punishment at that point was fines, not suspension. He lied to or misled reporters about his vaccination status, but both the NFL and the team say he was honest with them and followed the protocols (with exceptions). Quote
Gugny Posted January 6, 2022 Posted January 6, 2022 6 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: It might be true, but Arkush should never have said it. As a voter, he has an obligation to not talk about it. He admitted that all voters are instructed to not talk about their vote prior to the announcement when he says, "But one of the ways we get to keep being voters is we're not allowed to say who we are voting for until after the award has been announced...What they really mean is just don't talk about it, and the reason, in part, is because of exactly what's happened here." He also stated "Has he been the most valuable on the field? Yeah, you could make that argument, but I don't think he is clearly that much more valuable than..." When he says he doesn't think Rodgers is "that much more valuable," he is admitting he thinks Rodgers is more valuable. So by his own admission, he states he believes Rodgers was the most valuable player on the field - but, regardless, he is not going to vote for him because of criteria other than his performance on the field. By his own actions, it appears he feels he is above following established rules, obligations, and protocol. Which essentially makes him about as much of a douche as Rodgers. I agree that he was out of bounds by discussing his vote. He should have apologized for that. But his groveling to Rodgers was nothing short of pathetic, IMO. 2 Quote
Big Turk Posted January 6, 2022 Posted January 6, 2022 (edited) I can't disagree with his take on Rodgers as a person...dude is a self centered human being who cares only about himself and holds petty grudges for life. Edited January 6, 2022 by Big Turk Quote
Mr. WEO Posted January 6, 2022 Posted January 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, NewEra said: All he did was likely get his right to vote for the MVP rescinded. Dude said that he won’t vote for him because he thought he was a jerk….. and that has nothing to do with his play on the field. This bum doesn’t deserve to have a vote. HOF voters kept TO out initially. They lose their votes too? Pete Rose still isn't in for his play on the field. MLB voters need to go as well. Quote
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 6, 2022 Posted January 6, 2022 1 hour ago, Solomon Grundy said: Is he still feuding with his family? Yes Quote
billsfan1959 Posted January 6, 2022 Posted January 6, 2022 Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said: I don’t disagree with the first sentence. But the rest of it makes it seem as though MVP is an award for being a prominent player on the team with the most wins. I think it essentially is an award for being the best player on one of one of the top teams. I personally think it should be the player that is most valuable to his team - and part of that would have to revolve around winning. However, any way that we try to define it, it always revolves around play on the field, and that has been my primary point. Quote
Warcodered Posted January 6, 2022 Posted January 6, 2022 1 hour ago, RobbRiddick said: I thought his reply was pretty funny. I like it when sportsmen speak what they really think. I've always hated Rodgers but this kind of makes me hate him less There is a certain irony in giving Rodgers credit for speaking his mind given he tried to pretend to be vaccinated. Quote
RobbRiddick Posted January 6, 2022 Posted January 6, 2022 Just now, Warcodered said: There is a certain irony in giving Rodgers credit for speaking his mind given he tried to pretend to be vaccinated. I didn't know this, I rarely read anything about the guy. Case closed, I full-on hate him again Quote
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