Bills vs. Jets Tickets Selling as low as $8

[Ross Murdock]

Frankly if I'm the Pegula's I'd be very concerned that tickets are going for $8 bucks for a critical game that would give the Bills the AFC east crown!! Currently the forecast is for 42F with 30% chance of mixed precipitation, but according to most posters here, they wouldn't attend a game in those attention unless the team builds a dome. I wonder how many other current NFL cold weather cities fans are making similar posts? Likely ZERO. Buffalo is extremely, extremely, lucky to even have a team, and yet fans believe that they need a dome, or they won't attend games in January unless it's warm and comfy. I see the Browns are home on Sunday, they are eliminated from the playoffs,  the weather is even worse, and the lowest ticket is $30. Bills fans act like they have the Pegulas over a barrel _ "If they don't build a dome, we ain't coming". If I'm the Pegulas and Sundays game isn't 100% attended, I'm wondering why am I investing in this city, when much larger, more wealthy cities, and fan bases will welcome me with open arms, and build me a swanky new stadium and not charge me a dime? Many Bills fans are already claiming they won't pay for the seat licenses. Now insisting on a Dome the city, state, and frankly fan base can't afford...  Bills fans playing Russian roulette with a loaded gun. Bills have a great exciting team, most fans would die for, but in Buffalo a city with NO leverage, fans aren't interested in going to big NFL games if it's cold and snowy outside. With this attitude, soon the Buffalo local market TV team will be the Browns, when the Bills are gone. Then you can complain that the Browns need a dome.                

[Just Jack]

15 minutes ago, Bills fan since 87 said:

 

I grew up in the ADKs.  It was odd.  Channel 7 was cbs out of syracuse sometimes, even though it was technically a "watertown station".  Both 5 and 7 were CBS.....Maybe that played into it?

 

7 is WWNY/CBS out of Watertown.  5 is WTVH out of Syracuse.  My grandfather was the Chief Engineer at 7 from when they came on the air until he retired.  16 was the PBS station.  50 was ABC, though I don't remember when they came on the air, I think sometime in the early 1990's.  

[Nextmanup]

32 minutes ago, Ross Murdock said:

Frankly if I'm the Pegula's I'd be very concerned that tickets are going for $8 bucks for a critical game that would give the Bills the AFC east crown!! Currently the forecast is for 42F with 30% chance of mixed precipitation, but according to most posters here, they wouldn't attend a game in those attention unless the team builds a dome. I wonder how many other current NFL cold weather cities fans are making similar posts? Likely ZERO. Buffalo is extremely, extremely, lucky to even have a team, and yet fans believe that they need a dome, or they won't attend games in January unless it's warm and comfy. I see the Browns are home on Sunday, they are eliminated from the playoffs,  the weather is even worse, and the lowest ticket is $30. Bills fans act like they have the Pegulas over a barrel _ "If they don't build a dome, we ain't coming". If I'm the Pegulas and Sundays game isn't 100% attended, I'm wondering why am I investing in this city, when much larger, more wealthy cities, and fan bases will welcome me with open arms, and build me a swanky new stadium and not charge me a dime? Many Bills fans are already claiming they won't pay for the seat licenses. Now insisting on a Dome the city, state, and frankly fan base can't afford...  Bills fans playing Russian roulette with a loaded gun. Bills have a great exciting team, most fans would die for, but in Buffalo a city with NO leverage, fans aren't interested in going to big NFL games if it's cold and snowy outside. With this attitude, soon the Buffalo local market TV team will be the Browns, when the Bills are gone. Then you can complain that the Browns need a dome.                

Bills fans better get used to the idea of an open air stadium, because a dome ain't gonna happen.

Period.  End of story.

 

 

[BILLieve85]

1 hour ago, Just Jack said:

1996 playoffs

Wild Card round against the Jaguars, attendance 70,213

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/199612280buf.htm

 

The ‘96 wild card game, and Kelly’s last, vs. JAX was blacked out in Buffalo. Remember having to listen on the radio that day with my grandpa off Eggert Rd. 
 

https://www.nytimes.com/1996/12/27/sports/nfl-s-blackout-rule-fills-the-seats-usually.html

[purple haze]

2 hours ago, Scott7975 said:

You aren't missing anything.  The weather die hards are a minority.  Nobody really wants to sit out in that crap to watch a Jets game.  Even back in the Kelly days the stadium wouldn't sell out.  Not even for the playoffs. The only time they were on TV is because someone like Salvatore would buy up the remaining tickets. Because no one really wants to sit out in that crap.

It’s not weather die-hards; it’s Buffalo Bills die-hards; There were tens of thousands at the game last week. The playoff games back in the day were well populated too even if they weren’t sellouts.    
 

the resale market is the resale market.  The team already made their money on those tix.  The brokers and season ticket holders trying to get rid of tix are taking the loss.   That’s the speculation business for you. 
 

PS&E did their research among fans about a lot of topics.  Pegula said their fans want to be outside.   Is that true?  Seems to be reflected in the type of stadium proposed.  They’ll only need 60-62,000 going forward to sell out.
 

As vocal as some of you on the board are on this topic, I believe you are in the minority.   I think most fans are willing to roll with what comes.   I understand the ones who aren’t.  Just watch on TV and enjoy your comforts.

5 minutes ago, BILLieve85 said:

The ‘96 wild card game, and Kelly’s last, vs. JAX was blacked out in Buffalo. Remember having to listen on the radio that day with my grandpa off Eggert Rd. 
 

https://www.nytimes.com/1996/12/27/sports/nfl-s-blackout-rule-fills-the-seats-usually.html

It wasn’t a sellout.  But there were 70,000 people there.  That’s a lot folks.

[Milanos Milano]

1 hour ago, T&C said:

$8.00 for a party, a Bills game, and another party sounds like a pretty good deal... 

 

This is truth. Not sure what more anyone wants. Just layer up. 

[Doc Brown]

I’m guessing this is why the new open air stadium will only have 60k seats.

[Milanos Milano]

2 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

I’m guessing this is why the new open air stadium will only have 60k seats.

Not sure why though. As others have said, season tickets sold out and the Pegs made their money full sale. 60k seats is only going to decrease pegs money unless he raises prices to make up for the differences. 

[Turk71]

I just saw accuweather calling for 22mph wind with 40 mph gusts in the afternoon. Good thing the Jets have a bottom 5 run defense. 

If the Bills aren't building a dome they really need a great offensive line and that's all there is to it. It's nice they could finally run the ball but Atl is also a bottom 5 run defense.  They need to do that against much better competition in the playoffs to win at home in those conditions. 

A team like Indy,( tops in rushing, top 5 stopping the run), would be a major problem in that wind.

[JoPoy88]

7 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said:

Not sure why though. As others have said, season tickets sold out and the Pegs made their money full sale. 60k seats is only going to decrease pegs money unless he raises prices to make up for the differences. 

1. They most definitely will raise regular ticket prices, maybe substantially 

2. fewer regular seats allows for more “modern” amenities, club seats, and luxury suites. 

[BADOLBILZ]

1 hour ago, WotAGuy said:

They know exactly how much “human demand” there is because they know you guys have season tickets that you resell. That’s why they made it harder for out of town accounts to buy season tickets.  You act like you have some secrets the Bills don’t know about. 🤣

 

 

 

Are you dense?  We don't resell our tickets online so they aren't being transferred........so they would not know this information.   And no........they have no idea whatsoever who sits in our seats.   I could give you more specific examples to prove that but let's just say the banned ***** tossers could walk in with some of our ST cards for all they know.  As far as they know we have 30 full time ST holders when it's more like 15 people who pay for all of the tickets and actually attend every game.

 

Those 15 tickets will be all that's left if they triple in cost.  

 

Now there is plenty of money in Bills fandom to fill 60K considerably more expensive seats........Joe-sixpack doesn't think so but there is..........the key is making it worthwhile for them to show up.    The outdoor environment in Nov/Dec/Jan closes the market off to people with means who might bring their wives and kids or people who might fly in from their seasonal homes or just ex-pats with means.   The kind of people who aren't put out by the cost.

 

 

Edited January 5, 2022 by BADOLBILZ

[QCity]

13 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said:

Not sure why though. As others have said, season tickets sold out and the Pegs made their money full sale. 60k seats is only going to decrease pegs money unless he raises prices to make up for the differences. 

 

Unless?? Prices are going to skyrocket. That is a guarantee. PSL's are coming and a lot of fans and families are going to get priced out unfortunately.

 

Here's another guarantee -- when that new stadium opens there's going to be a lot of lamenting and reminiscing about the "glory days" when you could see a potential division-clinching game for $8. 

 

Enjoy it while you can!

[Milanos Milano]

9 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said:

1. They most definitely will raise regular ticket prices, maybe substantially 

2. fewer regular seats allows for more “modern” amenities, club seats, and luxury suites. 

They will have to raise it substantially. First to cover the costs of less overall ticket sales, and then again to pay for the new stadium. They will probably find people to pay that extra costs, but they would be better off building a huge dome and getting money year round and potentially a SB. I don’t necessarily want a dome, as I truly do enjoy snow games, but the Pegulas are being short sighted by not wanting a dome. 

[JoPoy88]

Just now, IronMaidenBills said:

They will have to raise it substantially. First to cover the costs of less overall ticket sales, and then again to pay for the new stadium. They will probably find people to pay that extra costs, but they would be better off building a huge dome and getting money year round and potentially a SB. I don’t necessarily want a dome, as I truly do enjoy snow games, but the Pegulas are being short sighted by not wanting a dome. 

Also remember part of Terry and Kim’s share of the construction costs will be defrayed by personal seat licenses sold to everyone who wants season tickets.

 

I have no personal preference with regards to dome vs open air, but even if they did build a dome, there is no way Buffalo would get a Super Bowl. Hotel capacity, etc. isn’t up to snuff.

[Doc Brown]

9 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said:

Not sure why though. As others have said, season tickets sold out and the Pegs made their money full sale. 60k seats is only going to decrease pegs money unless he raises prices to make up for the differences. 

My guess is they're counting on decreasing the supply so there will be an increase in demand allowing them to jack up the season ticket prices considerably to more than make up for the lost revenue of reduced seating capacity.  Even when this team sucks again you're unlikely to see many empty seats in December and January.

[JoPoy88]

9 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

My guess is they're counting on decreasing the supply so there will be an increase in demand allowing them to jack up the season ticket prices considerably to more than make up for the lost revenue of reduced seating capacity.  Even when this team sucks again you're unlikely to see many empty seats in December and January.

I’m sure that’s part of it too. There are “opinion makers” if you want to call them that that have been saying for years off and on that Highmark Stadium’s capacity is too large for the region. They point to places like Indy and Detroit, two similarly sized markets with newer stadiums that have significantly less seat capacity (71.6K vs 67K and 65K, respectively.)

 

A flat 60K capacity would make Buffalo’s  new stadium the smallest in the league.

[Scott7975]

1 hour ago, Nextmanup said:

Bills fans better get used to the idea of an open air stadium, because a dome ain't gonna happen.

Period.  End of story.

 

 

 

Yes most people know that.  Doesnt mean I wouldnt prefer one.

[ticketssince61]

4 hours ago, ToBillsFan said:

I got killed this year on season tickets. Heck I can barely give tickets away and I’m in 100 level endzone. I’m even considering not getting playoff tickets because i feel like those won’t sell either 

 

I have lower level seats between the 45 and 50 yard line in row 8 and row 14, and the last few games, I was lucky to get almost half of face

 

I also am thinking of bailing on my playoff seats

 

DM me if you want great seats really cheap for the Jets or would like to take over my seats at face for the wildcard round

[Buffalo716]

3 hours ago, Ross Murdock said:

Frankly if I'm the Pegula's I'd be very concerned that tickets are going for $8 bucks for a critical game that would give the Bills the AFC east crown!! Currently the forecast is for 42F with 30% chance of mixed precipitation, but according to most posters here, they wouldn't attend a game in those attention unless the team builds a dome. I wonder how many other current NFL cold weather cities fans are making similar posts? Likely ZERO. Buffalo is extremely, extremely, lucky to even have a team, and yet fans believe that they need a dome, or they won't attend games in January unless it's warm and comfy. I see the Browns are home on Sunday, they are eliminated from the playoffs,  the weather is even worse, and the lowest ticket is $30. Bills fans act like they have the Pegulas over a barrel _ "If they don't build a dome, we ain't coming". If I'm the Pegulas and Sundays game isn't 100% attended, I'm wondering why am I investing in this city, when much larger, more wealthy cities, and fan bases will welcome me with open arms, and build me a swanky new stadium and not charge me a dime? Many Bills fans are already claiming they won't pay for the seat licenses. Now insisting on a Dome the city, state, and frankly fan base can't afford...  Bills fans playing Russian roulette with a loaded gun. Bills have a great exciting team, most fans would die for, but in Buffalo a city with NO leverage, fans aren't interested in going to big NFL games if it's cold and snowy outside. With this attitude, soon the Buffalo local market TV team will be the Browns, when the Bills are gone. Then you can complain that the Browns need a dome.                

Why would they be concerned? 

 

The Bills sold 50,000 season tickets.. the game sold out

 

They don't care what the aftermarket looks like... Because their tickets sold

[BillnutinHouston]

5 hours ago, purple haze said:

But there were 70,000 people there.  That’s a lot folks.

 

You must not have been there.

 

The stadium holds 71,608 and there were significant chunks of the upper level unoccupied.  It was the most sparsely attended game of the year.  My guess would be the attendance was closer to 62,000.