First Round Bust Posted January 4, 2022 Posted January 4, 2022 (edited) per Sal C a 5% drop in completions, less yards per game with 5 more picks thrown with several deflections at the line becoming ints. only sacked 26 times is a credit to him, Burrow has been sacked double that ! running more, but not in red zone, as overall rush yards are way up with less TDs...its not been as good as last year or has it ? Edited January 4, 2022 by First Round Bust 1 2 Quote
TOboy Posted January 4, 2022 Posted January 4, 2022 Numbers will go up and down YOY. We’ve got our franchise QB and will be a contender for years to come as a result. Don’t forget to enjoy the ride! 12 10 2 Quote
Roundybout Posted January 4, 2022 Posted January 4, 2022 If that's regression, sign me up. 9 6 1 1 Quote
artmalibu Posted January 4, 2022 Posted January 4, 2022 I think he is better this year than last year. Stats are only part of the equation. 3 1 Quote
atlbillsfan1975 Posted January 4, 2022 Posted January 4, 2022 Josh is going to continue to evolve as a player. He will never stop trying to get better. You can see things he got better at this year, while there were times we saw 2019 Josh. All part of the maturing process. 2 Quote
John from Riverside Posted January 4, 2022 Posted January 4, 2022 that plays a factor in the statsThe office of line except for the last two games doesn’t appear like it has played as well as it did last year Williams was out at right tackle gearing up for a big extension and ended up having to get moved into guard mongo has been wildly inconsistent the offense of line has been shuffled and re-shuffled that plays a factor in the stats Quote
Forward Progress Posted January 4, 2022 Posted January 4, 2022 We've had many more bad-weather games this year compared to last year which has a big impact on the stats. Overall, I think Josh is a more complete quarterback this year, even if the stats don't show it the way we'd like for an MVP race. He has added the ability to hit crossing routes and underneath passes much better than a year ago. I believe his decision making is quicker than it was last year as well. 5 7 Quote
FireChans Posted January 4, 2022 Posted January 4, 2022 Oh no, does it look like Josh was less efficient than last year? 1 Quote
BruceVilanch Posted January 4, 2022 Posted January 4, 2022 5 minutes ago, FireChans said: Oh no, does it look like Josh was less efficient than last year? I think we were less efficient as a team this year in general 1 Quote
Malazan Posted January 4, 2022 Posted January 4, 2022 45 minutes ago, artmalibu said: I think he is better this year than last year. Stats are only part of the equation. I think Allen is better, but the guys around are not.. 1 2 Quote
Malazan Posted January 4, 2022 Posted January 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Allen carries the offense(and team) game in and game out. If you agree with me than I completely change my position to the opposite as I clearly wrong. 3 Quote
transplantbillsfan Posted January 4, 2022 Posted January 4, 2022 One other thing left out is that Allen lost only 3 fumbles this year compared with 6 last year. 3 Quote
DapperCam Posted January 4, 2022 Posted January 4, 2022 Pass protection was much worse this season, and we had a lot of bad weather games this season. Did we even have a bad weather game last season? I can’t remember one. Also defenses really keyed in on him this year with that cover-2/high safety stuff (which also gave Mahomes problems). With those things in mind I think he played just as well this year as last year. Not better, not worse. 1 Quote
78thealltimegreat Posted January 4, 2022 Posted January 4, 2022 Even with an entire off season of the best minds on the planet studying to defend this guy he’s still producing at mvp levels. The one stat that’s still amazing about these numbers too is the size of his receivers he’s got the smallest starting receiving corps in the league with only one of his top 5 over 6ft tall being Gabe Davis so it limits the type of throws he can attempt when a guy like Cole who is good but is also 5’9 in short the guy is just amazing Quote
transient Posted January 4, 2022 Posted January 4, 2022 See, not as good as 2020. Clearly, he must not have been able to handle the crowd noise. 3 Quote
Thurman#1 Posted January 4, 2022 Posted January 4, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, First Round Bust said: per Sal C a 5% drop in completions, less yards per game with 5 more picks thrown with several deflections at the line becoming ints. only sacked 26 times is a credit to him, Burrow has been sacked double that ! running more, but not in red zone, as overall rush yards are way up with less TDs...its not been as good as last year or has it ? It has not. Still an excellent year this year but definitely not as good, as we knew even before seeing these stats. Last year's offensive DVOA was 23.8%, and 34.5 when weighted. This year's is 11.5%. Couldn't find the weighted. And an awful lot of that is on Allen. Who has been merely excellent instead of absolutely elite. 2 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Even with an entire off season of the best minds on the planet studying to defend this guy he’s still producing at mvp levels. The one stat that’s still amazing about these numbers too is the size of his receivers he’s got the smallest starting receiving corps in the league with only one of his top 5 over 6ft tall being Gabe Davis so it limits the type of throws he can attempt when a guy like Cole who is good but is also 5’9 in short the guy is just amazing Every receiver, tall or small, limits the throws you can attempt based on his strengths and weaknesses. Plenty of taller WRs limit the throws based on an ability to get separation that doesn't compare with guys like Diggs, McKenzie and Beasley. Our guys are consistently excellent at creating separation. That's just as good, if not better than height. Edited January 4, 2022 by Thurman#1 1 Quote
Process Posted January 4, 2022 Posted January 4, 2022 Allen was a ridiculous last season. That was never sustainable with the offense we have around him. But he's still balling out. This off-season solidify the o line, get a RB other teams actually have to worry about, and bring in another playmaker at WR. You put Allen on the Cardinals, cowboys, bucs or Bengals, he has the best numbers in the league and is the clear MVP, imo. 1 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted January 4, 2022 Posted January 4, 2022 Not quite as good as last year. I think that was obvious to all. But those numbers are within the bounds of normal divergence for an elite QB year on year. If anyone thought last year was some sort of fluke, or one-off, they have been comprehensively disproven. 3 5 2 Quote
78thealltimegreat Posted January 4, 2022 Posted January 4, 2022 3 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: It has not. Still an excellent year this year but definitely not as good, as we knew even before seeing these stats. Last year's offensive DVOA was 23.8%, and 34.5 when weighted. This year's is 11.5%. Couldn't find the weighted. And an awful lot of that is on Allen. Who has been merely excellent instead of absolutely elite. Every receiver, tall or small, limits the throws you can attempt based on his strengths and weaknesses. Plenty of taller WRs limit the throws based on an ability to get separation that doesn't compare with guys like Diggs, McKenzie and Beasley. Our guys are consistently excellent at creating separation. That's just as good, if not better than height. Oh I disagree totally you give Josh a Deandre Hopkins or a CeeDee Lamb who you can just throw a ball up to on a contested catch you put this offense in a whole different level All great offenses in this league have at least one guy who the qb can throw the ball up to and say make a play Bills don’t really have that Case and point what’s happening in Cincy while Joe Burrow has Chase whose basically their Diggs…on the other side he’s got Tee Higgins Quote
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