Week 18: Jets at Bills - a W wins the AFC East!

[CSBill]

22 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said:

 

🤣 That is solid gold. PTW! Post of the week.

[NewEra]

1 hour ago, Logic said:

I thought about giving this it’s own thread, but I didn’t want to start another 29 page Tremaine argument.

 

This is high praise from Saleh, though:

 

 

Is that really high praise from the coach he’s about to face?  He’s big, fast and long and takes up space.  He talked about his physical being and that’s all.  That’s exactly how the majority of this board feels.  His physical being = a unicorn, avatar…..and there’s not much more to talk about.  
 

He lacks the killer instinct to make impact plays.  To often content with taking on a blocker when there is a play to be made right in front of him.  Sure, taking on the block can help someone else make the play, but there are times where he just needs to go get him some ball carrier, but he doesn’t 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

33 minutes ago, finn said:

It's only 32nd because their opponents are always way ahead and running out the clock. They also top or near the top in run attempts against. If the Bills plan to run it early and expect to dominate that way, they may be in for a surprise. That's a pretty stout D-line. 

i dont really understand the logic.  they cant stop the run when they know the team is going to run the ball to run out the clock?  They are giving up 4.5 yards per attempt when you factor in attempts... a lot of which like you say is when they know the run is coming...that is nowhere close to good.  thats worse than our supposedly terrible rush defense.

[Big Turk]

26 minutes ago, clayboy54 said:

I read a while back that several years ago the Bengals didn't even have scouts. They got their info from outside the building.

 

I thought I remember reading they had the fewest scouts of any NFL team by a wide margin. Coaching staff was also sparse.

 

1 hour ago, Process said:

You are comparing skiing to sitting in rain and 20mph winds to watch a football game? What?

 

They are clueless. Good luck selling season tickets to a new open air stadium. 

 

So, you have to pay us a $5k PSL fee, the cost of your season tickets are going to double, and if you aren't able to go to a December game you will be lucky to get $5 a ticket.

 

How appealing.

 

Winning fixes everything. They will have zero issues selling out.

[K-9]

1 hour ago, Big Turk said:

 

Belichick's teams never practice indoors ever.

This is not true. The Pats*** may do it far less than other teams, but they have a nice indoor practice facility for when the need arises. 

 

There’s a fine line between the need to practice in and acclimate to the elements and the need to conduct efficient practices. Sometimes the weather, especially windy weather, renders efficient outdoor practices impractical. 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

43 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Is that really high praise from the coach he’s about to face?  He’s big, fast and long and takes up space.  He talked about his physical being and that’s all.  That’s exactly how the majority of this board feels.  His physical being = a unicorn, avatar…..and there’s not much more to talk about.  
 

He lacks the killer instinct to make impact plays.  To often content with taking on a blocker when there is a play to be made right in front of him.  Sure, taking on the block can help someone else make the play, but there are times where he just needs to go get him some ball carrier, but he doesn’t 

'a unicorn in the linebacker world with ridiculous speed that takes away the most space since one of the best linebackers of all time'  is absolutely high praise lol  Edmunds struggles at times but we are asking a ton out of him...i think you can take an established veteran from another team and dump him in edmunds' slot and he would likely struggle even more.

Edited January 7, 2022 by Generic_Bills_Fan

[Hapless Bills Fan]

4 minutes ago, K-9 said:

This is not true. The Pats*** may do it far less than other teams, but they have a nice indoor practice facility for when the need arises. 

 

There’s a fine line between the need to practice in and acclimate to the elements and the need to conduct efficient practices. Sometimes the weather, especially windy weather, renders efficient outdoor practices impractical. 

 

But if the game is going to be windy, then isn’t part of a truly efficient practice, to experience the wind and how Josh has to throw the ball to cut through it, thus what the receivers have to be prepared to catch?  It’s gonna feel like a rock and it’s going to be launched at them on a literal frozen rope.

[WotAGuy]

5 minutes ago, K-9 said:

This is not true. The Pats*** may do it far less than other teams, but they have a nice indoor practice facility for when the need arises. 

 

There’s a fine line between the need to practice in and acclimate to the elements and the need to conduct efficient practices. Sometimes the weather, especially windy weather, renders efficient outdoor practices impractical. 

It’s clear the Pats practiced outside that week; how else would they know Mac can’t throw into a breeze?

[K-9]

Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

But if the game is going to be windy, then isn’t part of a truly efficient practice, to experience the wind and how Josh has to throw the ball to cut through it, thus what the receivers have to be prepared to catch?  It’s gonna feel like a rock and it’s going to be launched at them on a literal frozen rope.

Not necessarily. There are other aspects of practice that may be hindered by the elements as well; chiefly special teams related to kicking and punting. Also, given the storm yesterday, both the outdoor practice fields and stadium surfaces may not be conducive to an efficient practice. But this is nothing new. Marv used to conduct numerous practices indoors when the weather prohibited efficient practices. It’s a trade off. 

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

39 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

i dont really understand the logic.  they cant stop the run when they know the team is going to run the ball to run out the clock?  They are giving up 4.5 yards per attempt when you factor in attempts... a lot of which like you say is when they know the run is coming...that is nowhere close to good.  thats worse than our supposedly terrible rush defense.

jets are a weird team to figure out. They are elite on the D-line, yet still seem to get gashed in the run game. 

[Mr Info]

1 hour ago, Big Turk said:

 

Agreed...New England never practice indoors because Belichick wants them to be prepared for anything.

Well, they ‘held’ the Bills to no punts in the last game so that worked well for them.

[Greg S]

Just now, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

jets are a weird team to figure out. They are elite on the D-line, yet still seem to get gashed in the run game. 

 

They are a very easy team to figure out. They suck period. Nothing else to investigate here.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

1 minute ago, Mr Info said:

Well, they ‘held’ the Bills to no punts in the last game so that worked well for them.

New England also doesnt have a habit of getting multiple feet of lake effect snow in one day lol so its not really that comparable anyway

[K-9]

7 minutes ago, WotAGuy said:

It’s clear the Pats practiced outside that week; how else would they know Mac can’t throw into a breeze?

There’s a difference between “never” as was asserted and far less than other teams as is the case with Belichick and the Pats***. 

 

But there is no prep for the kind of wind conditions seen in the first Pats*** game anyway and I doubt the wind in Foxborough was a factor for Mac Jones in practice that week. They just know he has limited arm strength, regardless. 

[YoloinOhio]

 

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

9 minutes ago, Greg S said:

 

They are a very easy team to figure out. They suck period. Nothing else to investigate here.

Their D line is good. Quinnen Williams is better than any DT we have on our team. I think Saleh even has said it is the best D-line he has ever coached— high praise, considering who he had in San Fran. 
 

i don’t know all the jets problems, but given the talent they have in their front 7 really on D, seems weird they get gashed on the ground. I will be curious to see how we do against them running the ball. 

[Warcodered]

4 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

I guess they might as well do that and bring up a guy to get a look.

[GoBills808]

-16.5 right now

 

that's a much better number than 17 if you are interested

[Pete]

26 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

Their D line is good. Quinnen Williams is better than any DT we have on our team. I think Saleh even has said it is the best D-line he has ever coached— high praise, considering who he had in San Fran. 
 

i don’t know all the jets problems, but given the talent they have in their front 7 really on D, seems weird they get gashed on the ground. I will be curious to see how we do against them running the ball. 

 

[eball]

42 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

Their D line is good.

 

Clearly, it's not.  They may have good individual talents but they are obviously not playing well as a unit.

 

I really don't care what the JESTs do...if the Buffalo Bills of the past four weeks show up on Sunday, taking the Bills and laying the points is a steal.