MJS Posted January 3, 2022 Posted January 3, 2022 5 minutes ago, jletha said: But the rushes were very useful. Many went for long gains, and he had two TDs off of them. How can you overrate rushes, especially ones that turn into scores? Are they any worse than passes? If you turned every JA running play into a pass with the same result in yards and scores he had a pretty good game. I dont think a 61 QBR is ridiculous but maybe its a bit high.He was dominant, it just wasnt through the air. Add up his rushing and passing. He still turned the ball over more than he scored. If it was all through the air we would still be saying that he had a relatively poor game for his normal standard of play. It's not the end of the world. Even the best QB's have bad games sometimes. Quote
JohnBonhamRocks Posted January 3, 2022 Posted January 3, 2022 Allen did not have a good game as a passer. That said, he was phenomenal as a runner and made the passing and running plays he had to make like on 3rd and 4th down conversions. The INTs happened as they will with a QB who likes to push the ball downfield, but he otherwise played high level situational football making key plays on the 2 Singletary TD drives. Quote
Straight Hucklebuck Posted January 3, 2022 Posted January 3, 2022 He's at 700 yards rushing this season, 40 total TDs. And he's definitely cut down on the running fumbles. For instance, Herbert, he has 1 more passing TD, one less interception, and 3 less rushing TDs. Allen is still wildly productive. Quote
jletha Posted January 3, 2022 Posted January 3, 2022 35 minutes ago, MJS said: Add up his rushing and passing. He still turned the ball over more than he scored. If it was all through the air we would still be saying that he had a relatively poor game for his normal standard of play. It's not the end of the world. Even the best QB's have bad games sometimes. Sure it wasnt his best day compared to what weve become used to. But it was you that said a few times that it was his worst performance ever and I just dont think thats true. Quote
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted January 3, 2022 Posted January 3, 2022 14 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: Sort of a weird game by him. Passed really well at times (including on 3rd down). But I did notice that he basically ignored all the underneath stuff. Knox would go out for little 5-yard routes, would be wide open, and JA just wouldn’t throw the ball. i think he was looking for the bigger plays all day. It's like when he doesn't feel the other team is a real threat, he feels free to "be who he is" and go for the big plays, and then he gets in trouble. 1 Quote
Saxum Posted January 3, 2022 Posted January 3, 2022 14 hours ago, HalftimeAdjustment said: I am convinced this is a trend for Josh in bad weather games. Can someone point this out to our QB coach or to Jordan Palmer? Jordan needs a camp in California mountains somewhere they can make snow. Or maybe a camp in Wyoming and this will make his fans there very happy! Quote
Straight Hucklebuck Posted January 3, 2022 Posted January 3, 2022 13 hours ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said: I'm concerned with his passing today, I don't how you can't be. I'm usually more of a Josh defender, but today was not good. It has been amazing to me how teams can shut our passing game down at times. Something is out of sync still. Thought we'd get on a roll and had figured it out coming in. Truth is we are still unreliable throwing against certain schemes. I know some of you want to get the pom poms out. I just can't, it was disappointing and I won't believe we can perform consistently enough throwing it until I see us do it. Sorry, but it was a very poor, disappointing and concerning passing effort. I think this is a smart take as well. The Bills still don't get many passing plays that just work. Even in 2019, it felt like Allen had more time to survey the field and fire fastballs down the seam. It felt like the offense had more slants. Now, it just feels like our passing game is all diving on the sidelines with miracle catches, and somewhere in the middle of the season when we couldn't run, the Bills worked more running back dump-offs and screens into the passing game. From my perspective it's Allen running around and chucking down the field. Part of this, in my opinion, in lack of trust in the offensive line. You could see Game 1, the Bills wanted 4-5 wide all game. But the Steelers collapsed the line and from that point on the Bills haven't been nearly as aggressive, and this line has been in the bottom half of the league this season. Two, the Bills Coaching staff has still not made changes to the starting lineup. Emmanuel Sanders is viewed as a locked-in starter, and Gabe Davis had no role on this team for 3 months. Now, it's obvious to them that Davis should be on the field more than 33%, but Davis lost all those reps to Sanders, even though Sanders was slowing down in October. Same thing with McKenzie. This team goes right back to Beasley yesterday and forgets McKenzie. I don't know what they're watching. When McKenzie gets the ball he gets into the endzone, Beasley doesn't. Even with Diggs this team still doesn't throw slants. Also, the Bills don't have the WRs that get deep and allow Allen to uncork deep balls. We haven't had that since Robert Foster in 2018. We don't have that kind of WR. The Bills have no deep ball and haven't for 3 years. I also think this has been a down year for Brian Daboll. We don't run consistent pre-snap motion, Diggs is not moved around the formation, up until the last couple of games we were still having Zack Moss come in the Red Zone, because of the line we rarely run drag routes across the field. We saw it in New England, and it's been sparse this year other than that. We get nothing out of any Tight End outside of Knox. The Bills have always been weak and thin at Tight End, and there is nothing behind Knox, or anybody to push Knox. 2 Quote
balln Posted January 3, 2022 Posted January 3, 2022 repost our wr / and offense struggles mightly against sticky man. theres no one that absolutlely blows by with speed. and thers no jump ball 50/50 guy on the team. gabe davis is close but not chase, any of LAC WR or GB WRs. knox cant beat sticky man either. and if they dont get refs to call the illegal contact and holdings (last year KC champ game) theyre in trouble. other effects of this lead to allen holding the ball longer. more running around. more OL holding. and sacks really only guy is mackenzie and hes a gadget player when all our WR are healthy allen is phenomenal. He still has another level to reach in term of pure passing/ timing/ touch/ all the throws. he likes deep / short comebacks (no YAC) , and sideline. thats it. 1 Quote
MJS Posted January 3, 2022 Posted January 3, 2022 1 hour ago, jletha said: Sure it wasnt his best day compared to what weve become used to. But it was you that said a few times that it was his worst performance ever and I just dont think thats true. Maybe you are thinking of somebody else. I think it is one of his worst performances, but I don't recall saying it definately was his single worst performance ever. Quote
ExiledInIllinois Posted January 3, 2022 Posted January 3, 2022 15 hours ago, Warcodered said: I don't know what took so long for us to have Davin run the ball. Because the pass was setting up the run? Quote
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