BarleyNY Posted January 6, 2022 Posted January 6, 2022 (edited) So if everyone is to be believed we can piece together exactly what happened. Brown had an ankle injury that the team knew about. He was more than willing to play with the injury if it meant he would get enough catches to get his $2 million bonus. But when he wasn’t getting targeted at the rate he thought would get him to his bonus he complained at halftime. Then he refused to go back into the game when directed to do so by his coach. Then Arians told him to get the F out of there, which led to Browns’ tantrum exit. As Brown did not seek medical treatment during the game it’s safe to assume that he did not further injure his ankle during the game. He did decide that playing on the injury was not worth it if he was not going to get his bonus. That led to his refusal to play. tl:dr: Brown was only good with playing on his injured ankle if he was gonna get his $2M bonus. Edited January 6, 2022 by BarleyNY 2 Quote
wjag Posted January 6, 2022 Posted January 6, 2022 15 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: So if everyone is to be believed we can piece together exactly what happened. Brown had an ankle injury that the team knew about. He was more than willing to play with the injury if it meant he would get enough catches to get his $2 million bonus. But when he wasn’t getting targeted at the rate he thought would get him to his bonus he complained at halftime. Then he refused to go back into the game when directed to do so by his coach. Then Arians told him to get the F out of there, which led to Browns’ tantrum exit. As Brown did not seek medical treatment during the game it’s safe to assume that he did not further injure his ankle during the game. He did decide that playing on the injury was not worth it if he was not going to get his bonus. That led to his refusal to play. tl:dr: Brown was only good with playing on his injured ankle if he was gonna get his $2M bonus. From everything I have heard/read, I think your summary got it right. He was mad that Gronk was getting all the targets, was playing on a bum ankle and decided that if they were not going to increase his targets, then why risk further injury. 1 Quote
Alphadawg7 Posted January 6, 2022 Posted January 6, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: For some reason I find Arians more credible than Antonio Brown here. I’d prefer to side with the player, but I don’t expect Arians is saying this in public if people who were nearby didn’t hear him. And Brown’s whole demeanor leaving the field was just not consistent with a guy too injured to keep playing. Brown has been playing football for 11 years. Arians is correct, there is a protocol for injuries during the game, involving reporting to the trainer and/or doctor and being examined and if need be, sent or transported to the locker room for more tests/treatment. Brown well knows this. If his ankle was not allowing him to perform as a WR, he needs to go to the trainer/physician and get examined and ruled out. Then they tell the coach “Brown is being examined” “Brown is out”. It came out that Brown asked the Bucs to guarantee his remaining contract incentives last week and they declined. That would be consistent with AB being upset because he wasn’t getting targeted. Reportedly the incentives were up to $2M. I’m not sure how Brown “not telling anyone on the Bucs medical staff about his ankle bothering him on gameday before the game” squares with Brown receiving a painkilling injection. Something inconsistent there. Either the people giving the injections aren’t considered “part of the medical staff” and there isn’t sufficient communication, or Brown didn’t, in fact, get the injection. This is an interesting series of statements and information. I think if I had to guess...given the statement that went through AB's legal team made claims that text messages exist showing some prior knowledge the ankle stuff, that the Bucs had to have some awareness of it regardless of what they say. But, I think its most likely a case that AB gave no indication that there was anything significant with his ankle because he did not want to risk being held out because he wanted his bonuses. And that would make sense as to why AB's people wanted to get his bonuses guaranteed, so AB wouldn't instead try and play through it. With all thats been said on both sides so far...if I will do my best Detective impression and form a theory of the series of events hahaha: AB had something wrong with his ankle, but didn't disclose how much it may have been bothering him because he didn't want to miss any more games as he wanted his bonuses. Bucs had prior knowledge of the ankle, and there are probably text messages that show that...but I bet they also don't suggest or show anything that would indicate the ankle issue was anything serious because AB didn't disclose it was anything that should hold him out of the game so he could make sure he played to go after his bonuses. AB's team attempted to get the bonuses guaranteed for the purpose of him not having to play through the ankle stuff to get the bonuses. And because AB wanted to insure he got his bonus, that intent was not disclosed to the Bucs, only that they wanted to get his bonuses guaranteed. AB willingly played against the Jets with his ankle not being 100% in pursuit of his bonuses. He grew frustrated given the Bucs struggled the first half and wasn't touching the ball enough and apparently was vocal about that in the locker room at half time. Realizing he will probably need to play and play well in the final week to reach all his bonuses based on how the Jets game is going, now decides to himself its not worth risking playing more against the Jets and refuses to enter the game. He doesn't alert the trainers or medical staff probably because he doesn't want to jeopardize his chance the play the final week to get his bonuses if he tells them his ankle is worse than hes let on previously. Arians, fresh off AB complaining about touches at half time, and unaware of any significant ankle issue, sees this as more selfish AB (which it really still is) and has enough. Now AB probably really has ankle damage, but is trying to spin it as if he was the victim as if they forced him to pay hurt to mask that the root of all of this was his selfish agenda around his bonuses in the first place and handled everything as bad as one could handle it. Haha, my best sleuth attempt to decode all thats come out. End of the day, regardless of what the turn is...AB is still nuts...and the Bucs (and Brady) still get to deal with this distraction heading into the post season, which is great Edited January 6, 2022 by Alphadawg7 1 Quote
Chicken Boo Posted January 6, 2022 Posted January 6, 2022 45 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: So if everyone is to be believed we can piece together exactly what happened. Brown had an ankle injury that the team knew about. He was more than willing to play with the injury if it meant he would get enough catches to get his $2 million bonus. But when he wasn’t getting targeted at the rate he thought would get him to his bonus he complained at halftime. Then he refused to go back into the game when directed to do so by his coach. Then Arians told him to get the F out of there, which led to Browns’ tantrum exit. As Brown did not seek medical treatment during the game it’s safe to assume that he did not further injure his ankle during the game. He did decide that playing on the injury was not worth it if he was not going to get his bonus. That led to his refusal to play. tl:dr: Brown was only good with playing on his injured ankle if he was gonna get his $2M bonus. That's what I gather as well. I'm thinking he wanted to hit the escalators that game and not have to play in week 18. 1 Quote
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted January 6, 2022 Posted January 6, 2022 1 hour ago, FLFan said: In my opinion, the is no reason to take AB at his word. This is classic behavior for him. Nothing is ever his fault. He has never taken responsibility for his behavior. No surprise he has an AB spin ready for this one. Arians is a tool so nothing would surprise me, but Brown should not get the benefit of the doubt. It all comes back to Bruce Arians no matter how anyone feels about the details of who is more to blame in my opinion. He decided Antonio Brown is a good fit for the team I dont think he has any right to play the 'antonio brown is mentally deranged' card now. Hes a bad coach that pushes enough of the wrong buttons that was just lucky enough to helm a good enough roster to lure Brady. If Brady goes to SF, the chargers, or bears Arians is a nobody. Quote
bills6969 Posted January 6, 2022 Posted January 6, 2022 AB is so full of ***** it’s coming out of his ears. F him. 1 Quote
Just Jack Posted January 6, 2022 Posted January 6, 2022 https://dailysnark.com/2022/01/06/antonio-brown-posts-his-bank-account-info-publically-in-tweet-calling-out-tom-bradys-trainer/ It seems in the tweets to TBs trainer, he included his banking info. 3 Quote
vincec Posted January 6, 2022 Posted January 6, 2022 19 hours ago, uticaclub said: AB certainly doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt, but if not for Brady, Arians is just another retread Arians was a 2x NFL coach of the year before he had Brady on his team, so I don’t think “just another retread” is a fair characterization. 1 hour ago, wjag said: From everything I have heard/read, I think your summary got it right. He was mad that Gronk was getting all the targets, was playing on a bum ankle and decided that if they were not going to increase his targets, then why risk further injury. Sounds like quite a team player. I can’t imagine why he has trouble staying on a roster. Quote
AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted January 7, 2022 Posted January 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: It all comes back to Bruce Arians no matter how anyone feels about the details of who is more to blame in my opinion. He decided Antonio Brown is a good fit for the team I dont think he has any right to play the 'antonio brown is mentally deranged' card now. Hes a bad coach that pushes enough of the wrong buttons that was just lucky enough to helm a good enough roster to lure Brady. If Brady goes to SF, the chargers, or bears Arians is a nobody. I just don’t think that Arians resume up to this point is indicative of a “nobody” Quote
Captain_Quint Posted January 7, 2022 Posted January 7, 2022 36 minutes ago, Just Jack said: https://dailysnark.com/2022/01/06/antonio-brown-posts-his-bank-account-info-publically-in-tweet-calling-out-tom-bradys-trainer/ It seems in the tweets to TBs trainer, he included his banking info. Ugh.... my heart breaks for him and his mental illness. It's obvious he is in anguish and this isn't just him being a premadonna prick, like he's always been. Quote
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bigduke6 Posted January 7, 2022 Posted January 7, 2022 (edited) well here comes the he said she said stuff. as with most thing, the truth probably lies someplace in the middle of what both sides are saying. to me, appears to either be a misunderstanding that AB took the wrong way and decided to let loose, or, coach just got tired of his garbage and sent him packing. as usual, it probably has something to do with the $$$$. team/coach doesnt think he deserves the incentives, AB thinks he does. AB has a problem, hes known for acting a fool, he may be innocent here, he wants the benefit of the doubt tho, thats hard with his track record. either way, it hurts the Bucs, and it hurts AB. what hurts the Bucs is good for everybody else imo. Edited January 7, 2022 by bigduke6 1 Quote
Solomon Grundy Posted January 7, 2022 Posted January 7, 2022 His ankle didn’t look too bad as he trotted off the field that day 2 Quote
CNYfan Posted January 7, 2022 Posted January 7, 2022 The truth doesn't lie somewhere in between. AB is cray cray Quote
Just Jack Posted January 7, 2022 Posted January 7, 2022 3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: And now it seems she has Covid... Ava Louise Shows She Tested Positive For COVID After Night With Antonio Brown Before Week 17 1 2 7 2 Quote
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