YoloinOhio Posted January 6, 2022 Posted January 6, 2022 I think we should all give Mr Big Chest the benefit of the doubt. 3 1 Quote
mikemac2001 Posted January 6, 2022 Posted January 6, 2022 3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I think we should all give Mr Big Chest the benefit of the doubt. i don’t really trust Arians tho - he’s already lied about AB and he does tend to go at players I could see him being like we have you a 2nd chance now you are not gonna go in Quote
Beerball Posted January 6, 2022 Posted January 6, 2022 If Brown was, as he says in extreme pain then how was he able to dance his way across the EZ? 1 2 Quote
uticaclub Posted January 6, 2022 Posted January 6, 2022 35 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I think we should all give Mr Big Chest the benefit of the doubt. AB certainly doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt, but if not for Brady, Arians is just another retread Quote
RyanC883 Posted January 6, 2022 Posted January 6, 2022 2 hours ago, Big Blitz said: More: he was in such pain that he did jumping jacks after running around the field. he could have just sat on the bench. 1 hour ago, Nextmanup said: This puts an interesting spin on why Tampa Bay has failed to formally cut him from the team. They claimed they were "considering their options" or some such. Some thought they wanted to keep him off the market so he couldn't be snatched up by a rival like Green Bay this playoff season. Maybe they are afraid to cut him for fear of legal retribution, knowing they don't exactly have clean hands. i think they are worried about another team more than anything else, but the legal angle is interesting, but I think he would still have a claim if they simply refuse to play him or release false info about him. Quote
Doc Brown Posted January 6, 2022 Posted January 6, 2022 2 hours ago, Big Blitz said: More: "The staff injected me with what I now know was a powerful and sometimes dangerous painkiller that the NFLPA has warned against using, and I gave it my all for the team.” -Guy who wouldn't get the vaccine before getting vaccinated but not before trying to get a fake vaccine card. "It is incredible that people are pushing mental health issues and not a well known ankle injury." You took your shirt off in New Jersey in January and walked off the field through the end zone in the middle of an NFL football game. Even if Arians pressured you to play, that isn't normal. 1 1 Quote
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 6, 2022 Posted January 6, 2022 3 hours ago, Doc Brown said: "The staff injected me with what I now know was a powerful and sometimes dangerous painkiller that the NFLPA has warned against using, and I gave it my all for the team.” -Guy who wouldn't get the vaccine before getting vaccinated but not before trying to get a fake vaccine card. "It is incredible that people are pushing mental health issues and not a well known ankle injury." You took your shirt off in New Jersey in January and walked off the field through the end zone in the middle of an NFL football game. Even if Arians pressured you to play, that isn't normal. Is he claiming he took an injection without knowing what it was? Or that he hadn’t had that same injection before? (Probably toradol, and probably yes) Quote
YoloinOhio Posted January 6, 2022 Posted January 6, 2022 8 hours ago, mikemac2001 said: i don’t really trust Arians tho - he’s already lied about AB and he does tend to go at players I could see him being like we have you a 2nd chance now you are not gonna go in AB has lost all credibility though over the years so now even if this is true, most will be skeptical. He had no trouble running around and jumping in his theatrics to quit the team with this supposedly debilitating ankle injury. Per usual the truth is probably somewhere in the middle. 1 1 Quote
Coach Tuesday Posted January 6, 2022 Posted January 6, 2022 Arians has no one but himself to blame. Quote
Beerball Posted January 6, 2022 Posted January 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: Arians has no one but himself to blame. I can't speak for him or anyone else in this fiasco, but I'd guess that he would tell you it was worth it and he will never give AB another thought (and that last will be very close to the truth). 1 Quote
1ManRaid Posted January 6, 2022 Posted January 6, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, Beerball said: If Brown was, as he says in extreme pain then how was he able to dance his way across the EZ? 7 hours ago, RyanC883 said: he was in such pain that he did jumping jacks after running around the field. he could have just sat on the bench. Because not all ankle injuries are the same. I don't remember the name but that sports medicine doctor on YouTube gave a thorough explanation of how it's entirely plausible for him to be fine to do jumping jacks and whatnot, but actual on field action would be too painful. Stuff to do with which tendons are damaged, how different actions flex the foot in different directions, and where the bone spurs on his foot would be. I'm going to take his word on how things affect athletes over random people on the internet going "pfft, I saw him jog through the endzone so I think he's faking it". *edit* Found the link. https://youtu.be/TSYeQkRPkNQ Edited January 6, 2022 by 1ManRaid 1 Quote
Beerball Posted January 6, 2022 Posted January 6, 2022 5 minutes ago, 1ManRaid said: Because not all ankle injuries are the same. I don't remember the name but that sports medicine doctor on YouTube gave a thorough explanation of how it's entirely plausible for him to be fine to do jumping jacks and whatnot, but actual on field action would be too painful. Stuff to do with which tendons are damaged, how different actions flex the foot in different directions, and where the bone spurs on his foot would be. I'm going to take his word on how things affect athletes over random people on the internet going "pfft, I saw him jog through the endzone so I think he's faking it". *edit* Found the link. https://youtu.be/TSYeQkRPkNQ nah, just nah 1 Quote
1ManRaid Posted January 6, 2022 Posted January 6, 2022 1 minute ago, Beerball said: nah, just nah Nah to what? Nah to hypocrites advocating for only players on other teams (or just players you don't like) to be forced to get hopped up on painkillers to play through the pain and worsen their injuries? Or just nah to evidence you might be wrong about something? 1 Quote
BarleyNY Posted January 6, 2022 Posted January 6, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, 1ManRaid said: Nah to what? Nah to hypocrites advocating for only players on other teams (or just players you don't like) to be forced to get hopped up on painkillers to play through the pain and worsen their injuries? Or just nah to evidence you might be wrong about something? Gonna jump in here. Nah to a player who has repeatedly lied and acted incredibly selfishly about a matter that would take a big leap of faith to take his side on anyway. It didn’t help that he was tweeting about where he’d be playing next right away, which implies that he was ready to play. A selfish tantrum certainly seems on brand for him. Also what exactly explains his tantrum? If his ankle was injured then why didn’t he seek medical attention? I didn’t see him go to the medical tent or talk to one of the medical professionals on the sideline? So his version certainly seems like a lie to justify him taking himself out of the game. I’d wager that his agent told him to say it to help cover himself for that. And about him doing those jumping jacks, etc. on his way out, if he didn’t seek medical attention then he wouldn’t know the extent of his injury. Why would he do that and risk further injury? And why wasn’t he in pain? Had he limped to the locker room it’d have a different look. But what I saw was a guy who wasn’t worried about his ankle have a “look at me” moment while he told his team and teammates to F off during a game. Edited January 6, 2022 by BarleyNY 1 Quote
BritBill Posted January 6, 2022 Posted January 6, 2022 Here's my well researched and I hope, balanced view: Antonio Brown is a massive bellend. Quote
hondo in seattle Posted January 6, 2022 Posted January 6, 2022 42 minutes ago, 1ManRaid said: Because not all ankle injuries are the same. I don't remember the name but that sports medicine doctor on YouTube gave a thorough explanation of how it's entirely plausible for him to be fine to do jumping jacks and whatnot, but actual on field action would be too painful. Stuff to do with which tendons are damaged, how different actions flex the foot in different directions, and where the bone spurs on his foot would be. I'm going to take his word on how things affect athletes over random people on the internet going "pfft, I saw him jog through the endzone so I think he's faking it". *edit* Found the link. https://youtu.be/TSYeQkRPkNQ Informative video. Thanks for sharing. Quote
Beerball Posted January 6, 2022 Posted January 6, 2022 42 minutes ago, 1ManRaid said: Nah to what? Nah to hypocrites advocating for only players on other teams (or just players you don't like) to be forced to get hopped up on painkillers to play through the pain and worsen their injuries? Or just nah to evidence you might be wrong about something? nah as in someone with a list of transgressions and lies as long as Brown's does not deserve the benefit of the doubt Quote
Steptide Posted January 6, 2022 Posted January 6, 2022 I actually believe ab to an extent with this injury thjng. Having said that, he still could've waited until the end of the game and not made a huge spectical about it. It also woulda helped if when he left the field, he looked hobbled, which he didn't 1 1 Quote
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