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Black Monday(UPDATED: Fangio OUT; Zim & Spielman OUT; Nagy & Pace OUT; Flores OUT; Judge OUT; Culley OUT)


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On 1/5/2022 at 9:25 PM, Fan in Chicago said:

As for Hackett in GB, I am willing to give him the benefit of doubt and say that his experience post-Marrone supported by a great QB and good RBs has made the Packers offense potent

Not I. Hackett put up 7 points against a historically bad Chiefs D when his MVP QB was out. Hackett is bad and is being held up by an MVP QB.

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13 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said:

Elway continues to get a pass, while missing on multiple QBs.


 

Elway stepped down last year - they hired a GM last off season.

 

 

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20 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

I thought he had a pretty terrible team playing pretty hard for him.

14 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said:


 

Elway stepped down last year - they hired a GM last off season.

 

Didn't he step up into a position over the new GM and Coach?

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Flores should at least be given a shot with another QB before he is shown the door IMO. Their front 7 is below average, their offensive skill players are average at best, their OL is terrible, their QB is backup caliber... Not sure what the regime there expects him to do with that group. If anyone should go it's their GM.

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7 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

I thought he had a pretty terrible team playing pretty hard for him.

 


Absolutely. 

For them to have as many wins as they do, with that roster....speaks pretty damn well to Culley's ability as a head coach.

They're gonna fire him because....WHY, exactly?

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26 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said:


 

Elway stepped down last year - they hired a GM last off season.

 

 

Thought he was still team President?

1 minute ago, billsfan_34 said:

President of Football Operations 

 

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4 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said:

Thought he was still team President?

 


 

Yes, but he is not the GM.  He stepped out of that role - so the new GM should not be held accountable for Elway’s previous decision.

 

By next year - he might be part owner also - still doesn’t mean the GM should be blamed for what Elway did as GM.

 

 

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25 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

Flores should at least be given a shot with another QB before he is shown the door IMO. Their front 7 is below average, their offensive skill players are average at best, their OL is terrible, their QB is backup caliber... Not sure what the regime there expects him to do with that group. If anyone should go it's their GM.

 

The way Flores handled the Fitz/Tua situation last year is enough imo to show him the door.  Tua is no franchise quarterback, but I think the flip flopping there killed any confidence he had.

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5 minutes ago, sullim4 said:

 

The way Flores handled the Fitz/Tua situation last year is enough imo to show him the door.  Tua is no franchise quarterback, but I think the flip flopping there killed any confidence he had.


Plus he cut a bunch of team captains before this season to prove a point.  Flores may get canned.

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47 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

I don’t think he lasts, especially with Harbaugh potentially coming back. I think Ross moves on and goes after Harbaugh and throws whatever money he wants at him

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3 hours ago, MrSarcasm said:

Not I. Hackett put up 7 points against a historically bad Chiefs D when his MVP QB was out. Hackett is bad and is being held up by an MVP QB.

The Chiefs D isn't historically bad though. It's arguably not even a bottom 10 defense this season much less historically. That performance from the Packers was an atrocity though.

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5 minutes ago, L Ron Burgundy said:

If we lose Frazier for any reason bringing in Fangio as a DC would be amazing.   Though he's likely to get some HC offers.  He had no qb in Denver not sure how he was expected to succeed there.

I would be very surprised if he gets a HC offer this offseason. I don't think he'll be our next DC either way though. Probably be Jim Harbaugh's DC or tag team with a young OC coordinator getting their first HC job.

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8 minutes ago, L Ron Burgundy said:

If we lose Frazier for any reason bringing in Fangio as a DC would be amazing.   Though he's likely to get some HC offers.  He had no qb in Denver not sure how he was expected to succeed there.


His scheme is vastly different to what McD runs so I wouldn’t count on it.

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