Greg S Posted January 10, 2022 Posted January 10, 2022 (14) Jay Glazer on Twitter: "I believe Giants brass is torn on what to do w Joe Judge bc of revolving door of coaches they’ve had in recent years. Have hesitation to move on bc they’d add to that revolving door. At same time I have heard a ton of frustration inside that locker room. Not a little, a lot" / Twitter 1 Quote
Lv-Bills Posted January 10, 2022 Posted January 10, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Buffalo Junction said: Probably not. I really wouldn’t be surprised if he ends up being Daboll’s DC choice if Daboll gets a HC job. It would also satisfy the Rooney interview requirement for coordinators. Flores should and will be a better Head Coaching candidate than Brian Daboll. If Flores would have to settle for a coordinator job under someone like Daboll, that would be a travesty. He should be a Head Coach again........and soon. As in a week or two. How someone like Joe Judge could walk an NFL sideline as a Head Coach is ridiculous. I'm not a Daboll hater or lover, but firing Flores is mind boggling to me. Edited January 10, 2022 by Lv-Bills 1 1 1 Quote
Cheektowaga Chad Posted January 10, 2022 Posted January 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, Greg S said: (14) Jay Glazer on Twitter: "I believe Giants brass is torn on what to do w Joe Judge bc of revolving door of coaches they’ve had in recent years. Have hesitation to move on bc they’d add to that revolving door. At same time I have heard a ton of frustration inside that locker room. Not a little, a lot" / Twitter I get fears of revolving door in coaching positions but if you know the guy you have is not the guy.....move on 2 1 Quote
billsfan89 Posted January 10, 2022 Posted January 10, 2022 The Flores firing is a real shocker. Flores is coming off of 10-6 and 9-8 seasons. Not lighting it on fire but not all that bad either esp considering the talent the team has. The Fins should have at least stuck with Flores for one more season in order to try and build some continuity. As a Bills fan I do like the "unforced error" but as a football fan it is a bit frustrating to see a coach doing a fairly decent job get canned. 4 Quote
LyndonvilleBill Posted January 10, 2022 Posted January 10, 2022 So is that 7 now? What's the record for most HC openings?😱 Quote
billsfan89 Posted January 10, 2022 Posted January 10, 2022 Just now, Cheektowaga Chad said: I get fears of revolving door in coaching positions but if you know the guy you have is not the guy.....move on The Giants also are in a position where their next draft is going to be massively important to the next 5-8 years of their franchise. They have the 5th and 7th pick in the draft. They shouldn't hand over those picks to a guy hanging onto dear life. They should start fresh and hand that draft capital over to someone who can try to pull off a true 3 year plan instead of someone two years in and not doing much. 1 1 1 Quote
Saint Doug Posted January 10, 2022 Posted January 10, 2022 The Flores firing stinks of the GM trying to save face. “It wasn’t my fault, it was his fault.” 1 Quote
Saint Doug Posted January 10, 2022 Posted January 10, 2022 9 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: The Flores firing is a real shocker. Flores is coming off of 10-6 and 9-8 seasons. Not lighting it on fire but not all that bad either esp considering the talent the team has. The Fins should have at least stuck with Flores for one more season in order to try and build some continuity. As a Bills fan I do like the "unforced error" but as a football fan it is a bit frustrating to see a coach doing a fairly decent job get canned. It seemed like he was fired because NE ended up doing better than them in a shorter amount of time, even though the Fish were the better team. I think we can agree Belicheck is better coach than Flores, but that’s no reason to fire someone. Glad they are making this mistake though. Quote
billsfan89 Posted January 10, 2022 Posted January 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, Saint Doug said: It seemed like he was fired because NE ended up doing better than them in a shorter amount of time, even though the Fish were the better team. I think we can agree Belicheck is better coach than Flores, but that’s no reason to fire someone. Glad they are making this mistake though. That is insanely foolish if they fired someone simply because of a comparison to one team. The comparison doesn't even make sense. The Pats in 2019 were 12-4 compared to the Fins who traded away a lot of players and were 5-11. The Pats led the league in Covid opt outs and took on a lot of dead cap due to Brady leaving in 2020 and still finished with 7 wins. The Pats then got back a lot of talent via Covid opt outs coming back and spent a lot of their cap space on fixing some of their issues. Even then they only finished one game ahead of the Fins. It has to be something else other than a direct comparison that is deeply flawed. Quote
mannc Posted January 10, 2022 Posted January 10, 2022 26 minutes ago, LyndonvilleBill said: So is that 7 now? What's the record for most HC openings?😱 7-8 is normal. 1 Quote
nucci Posted January 10, 2022 Posted January 10, 2022 34 minutes ago, Cheektowaga Chad said: I get fears of revolving door in coaching positions but if you know the guy you have is not the guy.....move on 1 Quote
billsfan89 Posted January 10, 2022 Posted January 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, mannc said: 7-8 is normal. I don't know what year it was but I remember there being 12 openings in a season. 7-8 sounds about right to me as far as an "average" season goes. 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted January 10, 2022 Author Posted January 10, 2022 33 minutes ago, LyndonvilleBill said: So is that 7 now? What's the record for most HC openings?😱 6 now isn't it? With Judge and Rhule still tbc? Quote
mannc Posted January 10, 2022 Posted January 10, 2022 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: 6 now isn't it? With Judge and Rhule still tbc? Raiders, Jags, Fish, Bears, Broncos, Vikes. possible other openings: Panthers, Giants, Seahawks, Texans Washington FT? Quote
Wayne Cubed Posted January 10, 2022 Posted January 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: 6 now isn't it? With Judge and Rhule still tbc? Quote
TheFunPolice Posted January 10, 2022 Posted January 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, Wayne Cubed said: LOL That is fantastic! If you're a Giants fan that is totally depressing news. Basically they're saying "we'll fire him next year because we fired other bad coaches recently" 3 Quote
Scott7975 Posted January 10, 2022 Posted January 10, 2022 (edited) 22 hours ago, sullim4 said: The way Flores handled the Fitz/Tua situation last year is enough imo to show him the door. Tua is no franchise quarterback, but I think the flip flopping there killed any confidence he had. Still pretty bad they fire him and don't fire their terrible GM though. Edited January 10, 2022 by Scott7975 Quote
TheFunPolice Posted January 10, 2022 Posted January 10, 2022 Has Nagy come out to say that he isn't actually fired yet? Quote
JGMcD2 Posted January 10, 2022 Posted January 10, 2022 23 minutes ago, mannc said: Raiders, Jags, Fish, Bears, Broncos, Vikes. possible other openings: Panthers, Giants, Seahawks, Texans Washington FT? Panthers committed to retaining Rhule. Giants have committed to Judge. I can’t see Rivera getting a pink slip. Raiders can’t possibly move on from Bisaccia. I think that would be insane. The man steadied a rapidly sinking ship and got them into the playoffs. He deserves to get the full-time tag. I know there’s a good chance they might, but it would be a mistake. 1 Quote
mannc Posted January 10, 2022 Posted January 10, 2022 I was not aware that Rhule and Judge were safe. When was that news released? Quote
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